darkhunger
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That's from the Gathering of Five/ Final Chapter non-sense AFAIK. Don't blame you for not remembering.
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When did Spiderman get so strong?
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SirPinkyNose
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Physics wise, stopping a running train takes a tremedous amount of force.
This is movie, not comics, but still~
spookyfish
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Did he? Or did he have a whole stash of Stark Industries weaponry to work with?
And I'm also not going to point out the obvious: Stark was not a college freshman.
Yeah I used to have those. It was a number of cards detailing his powers if I remember correctly. He was lifting a car on the Spider Strength card I think.
Edit: I was way off. Here is the card.
Loved these;
I just found my old Marvel and Spider-Man card collection the other day. They were awesome.
But yea Spidey has always been a powerhouse. He's just a good guy and holds back alot.
Like others have said - If you have a quiet Spider-Man or a Black Suited Spider-Man after you, be afraid. You know things are bad if he's not making wise-cracks at you.
darkhunger
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They can lift up to around 170 times their own body weight, so proportionally about 15-20 tons if they weigh as much as a human male.
He built a miniature arc reactor and a robotic suit from missile parts, gtfo. A mid-teen making webshooters is hardly weird.
The best part was how it cleaned house at the end with MJ and Carlie both leaving.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Power levels are bullshit.
Unspeakable Evil
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MCU Kingpin scary but I can't see him being a threat to this version of Spider-Man.
TheBlackMarvel
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Dude is strong as fuck
Unspeakable Evil
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That's why I specified MCU version.
TheBlackMarvel
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That's why I specified MCU version.
Not to mention, that's the same version Peter curb-stomped effortlessly.
Leithkorias
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Eh. Think about human strength under the effects of adrenaline. Then consider that spiders don't produce adrenaline...
What I liked the most about the Superior Spider-Man arc was that it really made you appreciate Peter Parker, and the type of man he is.
Doc Ock was an awesome Spider-Man to watch, and his antics were a lot of fun, but it really rammed home why we love Peter Parker as Spider-Man. His relationships with his supporting cast and other heroes became so much clearer during that arc. The fact that they told a really compelling story with a fucking brain swapping plot is impressive. It's a fun read, and I totally recommend it.
On topic, Peter has always been beastly strong. I think it was a mix of him not knowing his limits, and him still growing into his powers as he aged. Not to mention that he's just a good guy, constantly holding back when fighting scrubs.
I'd love to see a Spider-Man in film facing a foe powerful enough to force him into taking the kid gloves off.
With that sad, Spidey's scrap with Green Goblin in Raimi's Spider-Man 1 film is still one of my favorite comic book fights because of how fucking raw it is. They were beating the shit out of each other, with Peter taking a real beating, and it had some excellent sound design and use of score (and lack of musical score) during it. I'm on my phone, or is link to that fight. So good. It's not flashy and acrobatic like the SM2 fights (which I also love), but it just felt like a street brawl.
Doc Ock was an awesome Spider-Man to watch, and his antics were a lot of fun, but it really rammed home why we love Peter Parker as Spider-Man. His relationships with his supporting cast and other heroes became so much clearer during that arc. The fact that they told a really compelling story with a fucking brain swapping plot is impressive. It's a fun read, and I totally recommend it.
On topic, Peter has always been beastly strong. I think it was a mix of him not knowing his limits, and him still growing into his powers as he aged. Not to mention that he's just a good guy, constantly holding back when fighting scrubs.
I'd love to see a Spider-Man in film facing a foe powerful enough to force him into taking the kid gloves off.
With that sad, Spidey's scrap with Green Goblin in Raimi's Spider-Man 1 film is still one of my favorite comic book fights because of how fucking raw it is. They were beating the shit out of each other, with Peter taking a real beating, and it had some excellent sound design and use of score (and lack of musical score) during it. I'm on my phone, or is link to that fight. So good. It's not flashy and acrobatic like the SM2 fights (which I also love), but it just felt like a street brawl.
Monocle
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WTF, that sounds like a bit much.
AquaWateria
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Yeah wait isn't Vision stronger than Spiderman?
TheBlackMarvel
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Vision and the armour twins are certainly stronger but of the main heroes, he's definitely in the upper echelons.
Physics wise, stopping a running train takes a tremedous amount of force.
This is movie, not comics, but still~
The real problem with his inconsistent powers is his ability to summon an elevated train to downtown Manhattan.
Unspeakable Evil
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Vision yes. Armor twins is questionable.
Manmademan
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We don't know how strong mcu vision is, but probably.
There's also the potential for giant man as well, so Parker would be fourth, maybe. Fifth if Tony has a suit that pumps his strength a bit more. The current ones haven't really been on the level of the 616 ones.
That Black Bolt quote is hilarious and clever when thrown into the lineup. I seriously laughed at it. They could had not put a bubble at all but having one got me for some reason.
Epsilon-delta
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Not even on the same level as Silver Surfer or She-Hulk, especially Silver Surfer. Surfer is a demi-god with his powerset.
You need a big bad like Thanos or a god like Thor to take on SS.
TheBlackMarvel
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Iron Man fought Thor, he's stronger than Spider-Man.
darkhunger
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Luke Cage and Jessica Jones also have enhanced strength... Not sure how strong Spidey is in CW and we haven't seen how strong Jessica or Luke truly are yet considering the low budgetness of the Netflix shows
BewareTheBatsie
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Movie Spidey was always somewhat weak or at least they never focused on his super strength. The only moments I can recall from the Raimo movies is the train and then I believe he caught a car in ASM2.
Unspeakable Evil
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I say questionable because it depends on the armor.
TheBlackMarvel
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That was what, Mark 6? They aren't getting weaker...
Manmademan
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Not very well he didn't. Tony got a boost from Thor's lightning super charging his armor unexpectedly in A1.
Even with that he was pretty close to being pounded into scrap. He's nowhere close to Thor. Even the hulkbuster was trashed in minutes going up against the hulk, and that should have been waaaay stronger than a standard suit.
Mcu Tony doesn't really have a lot of significant strength feats that I can think of.
TheBlackMarvel
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He was able to knock Thor about, that takes strength. The Hulkbuster was also able to knock the Hulk about. Is he stronger than either of them? No. However, he's still closer to their class than Spider-Man is to him.
Spidey is my favourite superhero and he's criminally underpowered in most media but on his best day he's not doing this:
Or this:
True, but Spider-Man beat Thor down (Masterson) into the ground, before he finally broke free with Mjolnir.
Thor was far superior in strength, but was blitzed with Parker's speed, agility and spider-sense.
Mr. Poolman
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I was not aware that some people were complaining about "Spidey being too strong" :/
I think the missconception from the movies remain still.
Stopping the train from SM2 would be less than a problem for the comics version of Spider-Man (also comic Spidey is waaaaay smarter than Tobey Spidey).
I think the missconception from the movies remain still.
Stopping the train from SM2 would be less than a problem for the comics version of Spider-Man (also comic Spidey is waaaaay smarter than Tobey Spidey).
TheBlackMarvel
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badcrumble
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He's strong because he's popular.
Jack Remington
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No incarnation of Spiderman has ever been on par with Iron Man, let alone superior to him.
TheBlackMarvel
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Hilariously, that seems to work in reverse for Spider-Man.
Well....
I agree, it's ridiculous but it's canon... somehow.
Manmademan
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By that logic:
Thor was able to go h2h with an enraged hulk without taking any significant damage. Not a scratch on the guy, and he busted out of a containment designed to hold the hulk.
The hulk buster went one on one with an enraged hulk...barely. hulk shredded that thing throughout the fight, Tony had to call in another arm fairly early after hulk destroyed one.
Thor is clearly well above the hulkbuster, and the hulkbuster is well above a standard suit.
A standard suit even a modern one should be nowhere near Thor.
TheBlackMarvel
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What? There is no conclusion there...
Which is why we're probably better leaving this in the MCU, where we started.
LSauchelli
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It's plainly explained at the beginning of Superior Spider-man. Peter ALWAYS holds back. Even when fighting dudes that are equal to him, because if he were to punch someone with all his strength, their heads would explode.
Otto basically did that to Scorpion there, IIRC.
Otto basically did that to Scorpion there, IIRC.
How about the Japanese Spider-man, who has the most powerful Giant Robot ever?
More_Badass
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TheBlackMarvel
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Hit him so hard we needed to see it twice lol.
Origin of the species
Dont forget Iron Man 3 and Tonys plastic suits
Jack Remington
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Tony does well in the Thor fight. Stop retconning. Shit is ridiculous.
Spiderman could best Iron Man 3 Tony, sure. Fuck Shane Black.
He isn't beating any Whedon incarnation,
Spiderman could best Iron Man 3 Tony, sure. Fuck Shane Black.
He isn't beating any Whedon incarnation,
darkhunger
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Back in Black was basically Spidey getting PO and taking out all his enemies out of revenge.
Also this
Grim Hunt. Best paired with The Gauntlet first for the eventual Grim Hunt payoff.
TheBlackMarvel
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