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When did Spiderman get so strong?
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Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
if that was the case, he would be untouchable, since hes by far the most popular comic book superhero
Yeezus H. Christ
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This is gold.
Yeezus H. Christ
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Eh, not really. He takes plenty of beatings from Venom.
Glass cannon is like Scarlet Witch.
BKatastrophe
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Yup. Can warp reality, but can't take too many punches.
Yeezus H. Christ
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Can't really tell if Flash is a glass cannon though because of his Speed Force bullshit.
Like, he can run at 13 trillion times light speed and have 'a punch with the force of a white dwarf star', the Infinite Mass Punch or whatever, but this dude can get shot up by regular bullets.
So like, the Speed Force only really works as a durability enhancer if he's running super-fast? Idk.
Like, he can run at 13 trillion times light speed and have 'a punch with the force of a white dwarf star', the Infinite Mass Punch or whatever, but this dude can get shot up by regular bullets.
So like, the Speed Force only really works as a durability enhancer if he's running super-fast? Idk.
BKatastrophe
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Wanda's power is a combination of "probability alteration" and "chaos magic."
Doing big reality warps takes a lot out of her, so she mostly just sticks to her basic chaos and probability magic. She calls them "hex bolts" when ever she shoots them as energy blasts.
Eh, that is a stupid scan as firelord was jobbing super hard. I believe Firelord was a herald of Galactus (not the strongest one but still a herald).
Spidey on his best day wouldn't stand a chance (real Spidey not universe Spidey). So that isn't a good example of spider-man.
There.
nintendork666
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Have you ever met my friend, Batman?
He means in terms of merchandise revenue, where Spider-Man dwarfs everyone by a lot.
Yeezus H. Christ
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How many MCU Caps is 10 tons?
That helicopter feat in the trailers looks like a few tons at least, right?
That helicopter feat in the trailers looks like a few tons at least, right?
Inquisitive_Ghost
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The evidence.
It's kind of amusing knowing this and hearing about how Spider-Man almost didn't exist because the higher-ups had no confidence in the character.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
popular yes, but not as popular as spidey
spider merch should be a secondary ability
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
nah, passive batman fans just believe he should be able to do that shit
My favorite is when other writers get a hold of characters they're not used to and completely screw em up (character wise or power wise it doesn't matter). And then the writers that actually are used to those characters often have to correct those previous stories. Like that time Doc Ock whooped Hulk's ass
and then Peter A David (Hulk's main writer at the time) tries to make right that previous showing:
DaSorcerer7
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They nerfed him quite a bit in that fox animated series.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
No that was when he was teaming up with Silver Sable and Paladin.
Yep, much stronger (and close to the comics) than the other Spider-Man films.
If you can bench press 10-20 tons due to proportionate strength, you would realistically be able to lift a lot more when utilizing the rest of your body. Seeing as a capoeria kick from a normal human can have up to 1800 lbs of force, I mean -- realistically any heavy hitter could kill any other heavy hitter unless they were super durable.
Pete's got some durability, but he can't really stop bullets or knives or take too many well-placed body blows. Like, iirc, he couldn't beat Captain America during Civil War (before Dan Slott taught him Kung Fu) -- partially because he couldn't hit him hard enough to knock him out without killing him, partially because he didn't want to fight his idol, and partially because he was simply the lesser fighter and getting licked too much.
Pete's got some durability, but he can't really stop bullets or knives or take too many well-placed body blows. Like, iirc, he couldn't beat Captain America during Civil War (before Dan Slott taught him Kung Fu) -- partially because he couldn't hit him hard enough to knock him out without killing him, partially because he didn't want to fight his idol, and partially because he was simply the lesser fighter and getting licked too much.
I think
weaker than Spider-Man 2 version - due to train feat
AppleSeason
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As far as I can remember, he was extremely exhausted and the first thing he did after arriving on earth was... Ordering a pizza. Also melting a pizza oven to pre-heat it.
I also have to wonder if he was having it difficult fighting and digesting at the same, but overall it felt like he was restraining himself a bit despite being mistaken for a mutant and getting a fire hydrant stream to the face from two arseholes.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Wolverine, in some stories, has regrown his fucking eyes.
I love The Speed Force.
They wrote a character so fuckin' ridiculous that they had to give it "real world" justification. And honestly? They didn't need to. Speed is Flash's superpower. You don't need to justify how it works.
Lol.
EDIT: Also:
Wait this one is called "From Hunt"? Art looks good I'm down to read that.
Gravy Boat
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I could be wrong but I thought I remembered reading somewhere that he was pound for pound as strong as the hulk. As in, if him and the hulk were the same size they'd be equally as strong.
I might have made it up at some point, but for some reason that's always been in my head.
I might have made it up at some point, but for some reason that's always been in my head.
Mr. Poolman
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I've said it before (on this very thread I think).
The train feat of SM2 could be easily handled by Comic Spidey because :
a. He is far stronger than Tobey Spider-Man
b. He is far smarter than Tobey Spider-Man
The Silver Surfer is physically weak. The Power Cosmic just keeps him in the fight.
No its in his subconscious as well. If he was to get shot the bullet wouldn't have enough time to pierce his skin or the speed force would simply remove the bullet from the universe with a SfD
Plus his healing factor is insane
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
If Flash was feeling especially dickish he could just reverse the momentum of the bullets and return them to sender with interest.
Yeezus H. Christ
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If you can handle 10-20 tons, how far would a stab from an average human with a knife really go?
This too.
Muscle doesn't work like body armor lol.
Spider-man's tough enough to take hits to the face from guys like Punisher like it's nothing
Honestly that fight he had against Captain America during Civil war was pretty much straight up bs. Yes Spider-man was holding back because he didn't really want to fight Captain America but Captain America also shouldn't be tagging him nearly as much as he did since Spidey would realistically run circles around him thanks to his agility and spider-sense.
TheBlackMarvel
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Spider-man's tough enough to take hits to the face from guys like Punisher like it's nothing
Honestly that fight he had against Captain America during Civil war was pretty much straight up bs. Yes Spider-man was holding back because he didn't really want to fight Captain America but Captain America also shouldn't be tagging him nearly as much as he did since Spidey would realistically run circles around him thanks to his agility and spider-sense.
According to canon he's holding back there as Frank doesn't have shattered wrists.
With the Cap fight, I think the implication was that if it had continued (or if Peter had actually wanted to win) it would have been a clear victory for Spider-Man.
TheBlackMarvel
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A personal favourite feat of strength:
A personal favourite feat of strength:
I miss this version of Peter of just trying to do right by his family while juggling being a super hero and a high school teacher.
I was thinking vulnerability to pressure points or vital areas rather than typical blunt trauma, hence "well-placed". He can take a punch from a lot of heavy hitters, such as Rhino and Juggernaut. But Kraven at 2 ton strength can hurt him, which is roughly twice as strong as Cap.
Yeah but good luck actually landing that well-placed blow.
Karven can do it because he drinks a potion that gives him super powers which include the necessary enhanced speed, agility and reflexes that he can actually pose Spider-man a somewhat credible threat.
Guys like Captian America and Daredevil.... not so much
Note he's under a form of mind control/illusion powers in that picture and not operating at 100%
What makes Spidey so scary isn't just his raw physical strength but the agility and brains he has to go with it which enables him to go up against a wide range of foes.
In a properly written Spider-man vs Cap fight Spidey should win pretty much 99% of the the time. *Twhip* to grab the and *twhip* to web Cap up and it's game over without having to throw a single punch.
The only reason that doesn't actually happen in the comics is because it'd be too one sided and boring so they buff Cap up and or dumb Spidey down like what happened in the Civil war fight.
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