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I've seen a few more posts like this and I don't really understand where this comes from. I get it if stuff shown shown isn't for you but some people seem genuinely upset / confused over other people liking things they don't. Is it really that hard to see why others are excited for certain things? I mean, I didn't feel the Scorpio reveal at all and the Windows 10 stuff means nothing to me, but I get why there are people that are excited for that stuff. I'll just copy what I said earlier as I feel it applies here too;
Sony resonated with people because a lot of people watch E3 to get a peek at what's coming in the future. They watch E3 for the surprises and spectacle. Sony gave us surprises and showed us actual gameplay, and that gets people excited. The dates do not matter for a lot of people.
They showed a new God of War going into a completely different direction. We got a date for The Last Guardian, confirming that that game is indeed finally coming out. They showed Resident Evil 7, also a game going in a new direction compared to its predecessor. We got VR games. We got a demo for Infinite Warfare that surprised / blew away a lot of people after the initial negativity. They had Kojima on stage showing his new project. It does not matter that Kojima's project is still a long way off; the point is that he is back and that he is doing something new, something unique, something he wants to do.
These are exciting things; big franchises going in new directions, a highly anticipated game finally getting a date, them showing confidence in VR, turning around public perception on an initially disliked game, a great creator showing of his new project after all of the shit he went through. Add to that excellent gameplay slices from stuff like Horizon and Detroit and a high-profile Spiderman game announcement, and I just find it hard to understand how you can't understand that people are excited for this stuff.
I have no issue with you personally not liking it, but I don't really get why you don't 'get' why this resonated so well with others. This is also not limited to the Sony conference btw, the same goes for Microsoft and Nintendo / Zelda. There is no issue with not liking something or explaining why you do not like something, but I feel there is a subset of posters that thinks they should invalidate others' excitement for something they did not personally like.
As for my opinion on who 'won' E3 I'll just link to my post in the conference grading thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=207532353&postcount=37
I thought the big three all did decently, but Sony definitely got me most excited. Although I think choosing a 'winner' of E3 is kind of silly in general, so I'm not going to seriously vote in the poll. As far as I'm concerned, I won because I got to see cool stuff.
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Hey, I respect your passion, but I feel like you might be taking this a bit too personally...
I admit all press conferences left me really underwhelmed, with Bill Trinen screwing around in Zelda U being probably the most entertaining thing which is bizarre given Nintendo didn't even hold a digital event this year.
So, my vote went to the guy eating a Turkey Leg. I am excited for some games, but no thanks to anyone's press conference.
So, my vote went to the guy eating a Turkey Leg. I am excited for some games, but no thanks to anyone's press conference.
Sony, no contest. Best conference and best content outside the conference.
E3 and the question of who won is about more than the conferences.
Sony has plenty coming out the rest of this year, most of which had new things shown off at E3.
GT Sport
Gravity Rush 2
The Last Guardian
Ni-Oh
No Man's Sky
A boatload of other Japanese games that probably don't count.
E3 and the question of who won is about more than the conferences.
Sony has plenty coming out the rest of this year, most of which had new things shown off at E3.
GT Sport
Gravity Rush 2
The Last Guardian
Ni-Oh
No Man's Sky
A boatload of other Japanese games that probably don't count.
Well Zelda was by far the best thing shown at E3, though it's hard to say Nintendo "won" with a single game. Pokemon Sun and Moon should be great, but they didn't exactly rivet the audience with that thrilling Route 1 gameplay. Sony's was the most consistent I suppose, even though they didn't have a singular title that completely blew me away like Nintendo did. Horizon, GoW, and Spidey all look good though, but they are oh so far away. Microsoft honestly didn't have anything interesting outside of GWENT which I will play on PC. The Xbox One S does look sleek though and I can see it being a popular choice when it comes out.
Self_Destructive
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Fair enough. I forgot about The Last Guardian (maybe I just still can't believe it's real
) I'll definitely be buying that. But yea, a lot of the games I'm looking forward to for the rest of the year are multi plats anyway. But Forza Horizon 3 is one of my most anticipated exclusives cause I can't wait to play with friends in that game.Dandy Lyin
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As someone who hasn't owned a Nintendo console since the Gamecube(I don't count my NDS), I voted Nintendo.
Zelda looks greats. I'm not sure if I'd buy an NX just to play it... But part of me wants to.
Zelda looks greats. I'm not sure if I'd buy an NX just to play it... But part of me wants to.
Nintendo. Zelda just looks too good.
Such a huge world to explore.
So many interesting gameplay systems that interact with each other in unexpected ways.
An experience that encourages freely exploring the world and experimenting with those gameplay systems to your heart's content, instead of bogging you down with story and quest markers.
Several different methods of traversal like shieldboarding, gliding, and the ability to climb basically everything, which open up the world in ways that you don't find in most western open world games, especially the fantasy ones with wilderness settings.
I can't wait to get my hands on the game and just start exploring.
Such a huge world to explore.
So many interesting gameplay systems that interact with each other in unexpected ways.
An experience that encourages freely exploring the world and experimenting with those gameplay systems to your heart's content, instead of bogging you down with story and quest markers.
Several different methods of traversal like shieldboarding, gliding, and the ability to climb basically everything, which open up the world in ways that you don't find in most western open world games, especially the fantasy ones with wilderness settings.
I can't wait to get my hands on the game and just start exploring.
they're the new helicopters
King Gilga
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It was a pretty boring E3.
But sony definitely had the most games I was interested in.
But sony definitely had the most games I was interested in.
LiveFromKyoto
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No hey, great point. If you take out all the good and novel things all those games did and just put "generic" in front of them instead, that conference was so not special. I can't believe Call of Duty is all about space fighter battles again. Ugh.
Steve McQueen
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Zelda.
Seriously, there is no question about it. Sony won. Sony made clear that you need a PlayStation if you want tons of great games in the near and far future. Doesn't matter if we're talking about 'ordinary' games or VR games. They have the internal horsepower (1st Party Studios) and the alliances (Kojima, Shenmue, Marvel, Activision, Support of the japanese gaming companies, etc.). The message is clear.
Microsofts highlight was a teaser trailer about "the highest quality pixels anybody has seen".
Microsofts highlight was a teaser trailer about "the highest quality pixels anybody has seen".
So you are saying they will be The Order:1886'd?
wait, which video was this?
plasmawave
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Cheers. I actually started that vid before I asked but didn't watch it to the end.
Eric the Red
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He's pretty funny and good with people. GB stream was just a 3 day industry party with a gazillion people so that's a good time.
Sony definitely deserves the top spot imo. All of their games showed new wrinkles and bold design choices. God of War made a specifically strong and lasting impression on me, as I to reevaluate who Kratos is. I thought I knew of Kratos, and the next entry in the franchise was going to just be more bombastic with shinier graphics. I honestly never though such things as: who is the mother of the boy, is Kratos the biological father or is he a mentor,has kratos atoned for his wrong doings already or is he just starting his path of redemption. To be honest I thought that the questions I would be having of this game would be about how big the bosses where going to be and why is he still angry, I can't express how happy I'm about my intuition about the game was so wrong prior to its release.
The pacing of sony's conference was near flawless too. I mean I think nothing can truly reach a perfect mark but this conference reached a new high for me, and this is without talking about some of the game that weren't even presented at the conference that have a really good chance at being really special games in particular Neir: automata, Persona 5 and Gravity Rush 2.
The pacing of sony's conference was near flawless too. I mean I think nothing can truly reach a perfect mark but this conference reached a new high for me, and this is without talking about some of the game that weren't even presented at the conference that have a really good chance at being really special games in particular Neir: automata, Persona 5 and Gravity Rush 2.
What have the last few E3's thought you exactly?
Because if I look through sony's 2015 presser the only game that can properly be evaluated is Uncharted 4, which by the way has received high critical acclaim, the other games that where presented last year for the most part aren't release yet. So can you tell me again which first party games have sucked when they where release. You can start with last year.
Majmun
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Microsoft won for me as they have the most games I'm interested in, and Forza Horizon 3 is my most wanted game at the moment. That doesn't necessarily mean Xbox One won though. Since I now have a top of the line PC, I'm likely going PC only this generation and selling my X1. X1 remains a great option for those who can't afford or don't want a top tier PC
Nintendo - call me when NX is out. Not getting Wii U which is a failure of a console
Sony - Star Wars Battlefront VR stood out to me. But Sony VR is the least impressive out of the 3 main VR headsets so I'm undecided. Won't consider getting PS4 until Neo is out
Nintendo - call me when NX is out. Not getting Wii U which is a failure of a console
Sony - Star Wars Battlefront VR stood out to me. But Sony VR is the least impressive out of the 3 main VR headsets so I'm undecided. Won't consider getting PS4 until Neo is out
Azure Phoenix
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Can I say nobody? This year's E3 was ridiculously boring and safe - especially compared to last year. I'm most baffled by how so many people loved Sony's conference, yeah it had style but there was no real substance beyond gameplay of GoW and Horizon.
Just listing complaints against Sony's conference:
They showed literally nothing below AAA tier IPs - Gravity Rush 2, Nier, Persona 5 and such were nowhere to be seen. But instead we get a long gameplay demo of yet another bland zombie game where they unload infinite machine gun ammo into a crowd for 10 mins. Not even a sizzle reel to say "hey, look at everything that is only on Playstation"
Lego Star Wars trailer - Who cares? It's out in like a week. Marketing deal clearly.
Crash reveal - A muted "yeah Activision are remaking the original 3, whatever, roll a Skylanders trailer instead"
VR - Reduced to teases of a couple of unwanted VR "experiences" of big name IPs. Not inspiring confidence that your £350 headset is worth a purchase.
Indie showcase - Gone
Controllers, hardware or system updates? - Nothing, not even a limited edition system.
Big surprises - None
Microsoft's conference wasn't amazing, but they set out a vision for where the console will be in a couple of years. Nintendo was.... well they were clearly a company desperately banking on 2 products to ride them through the next year.
Just listing complaints against Sony's conference:
They showed literally nothing below AAA tier IPs - Gravity Rush 2, Nier, Persona 5 and such were nowhere to be seen. But instead we get a long gameplay demo of yet another bland zombie game where they unload infinite machine gun ammo into a crowd for 10 mins. Not even a sizzle reel to say "hey, look at everything that is only on Playstation"
Lego Star Wars trailer - Who cares? It's out in like a week. Marketing deal clearly.
Crash reveal - A muted "yeah Activision are remaking the original 3, whatever, roll a Skylanders trailer instead"
VR - Reduced to teases of a couple of unwanted VR "experiences" of big name IPs. Not inspiring confidence that your £350 headset is worth a purchase.
Indie showcase - Gone
Controllers, hardware or system updates? - Nothing, not even a limited edition system.
Big surprises - None
Microsoft's conference wasn't amazing, but they set out a vision for where the console will be in a couple of years. Nintendo was.... well they were clearly a company desperately banking on 2 products to ride them through the next year.
Melchiah
Member
I'd wager that Microsoft used to won E3 polls here last gen.
The poll is about who won E3, and I am pretty sure E3 is not 90 minutes long. Concentrating solely on the conference is wrong.
geordiemp
Member
Why ? Sony is 40 million consoles, Xb1 about 20, WiiU about 10
So one would expect 4;2:1 ratio of Sony to MS to Nintendo.
Lets face it, most posters vote for their console / platform of preference, Winning E3 is a subjective tastes opinion on what you like, maybe on GAF some will have multiple systems......
So, given expectations, GAF seems to be stronger on Nintendo representation and weaker on MS representation...but also this simplistic analysis gets confused with hand helds and old gen...
and lets face it People who mainly play COD and FIFA every year only mostly dont even watch E3 never mind vote on GAF.
GHG
Member
They did. They used to kill it. Peter Moore understood what gaming was about unlike the current bunch.
Good times. First few years of that console hold some of my fondest memories in gaming.
Sony won by a lot because their conference was awesome. Game after game after game of high caliber.
Zelda gets best game. Looks like game of the generation.
Resident Evil best reveal. Will be the VR killer app for the foreseeable future.
Spider-Man most exciting future title.
Horizon gets honorable mention looks incredible.
IMO
Zelda gets best game. Looks like game of the generation.
Resident Evil best reveal. Will be the VR killer app for the foreseeable future.
Spider-Man most exciting future title.
Horizon gets honorable mention looks incredible.
IMO
Azure Phoenix
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The conferences are what the average gamer is going to see, they aren't at the event to experience the games themselves (i.e. all the VR titles) and most won't be trawling every site for journalist impressions. They are meant to be a condensed, flashy, headline grabbing event that showcases a little bit of everything the company has, with more in-depth videos and impressions to follow over the next few days after people's attention has been grabbed. Expecting people to have to trawl multiple websites every few hours for a couple of days to see everything that wasn't mentioned in the conference is not a reasonable expectation.
Melchiah
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The 360 was the popular choice here back then, which is why the idea of Gaf being aligned with Sony is historically incorrect. To my recollection the overall response to PS3's early E3 conferences was pretty brutal. The majority tend to favor the platform that's most popular at the time, as it naturally also has a larger userbase.
Sony won E3 because the majority of people thought that they had a fantastic presser. Are you telling me that the major gaming publications or those IGN/Gamespot/Youtube gaming E3 shows (who proclaimed that Sony's E3 conference was the best one of the show) all have an inherent Sony bias because all these guests/gaming journalists have the PS4 as their console of choice?
Is it really that hard for some people to believe that a lot of gamers were just honestly impressed/excited by what Sony had to show? @_@
Already Torn
Banned
Sony knocked it out of the park with an exciting and respectful press conference. I'm tempted to say Nintendo though because we all thought they were going to be terrible but they brought Yungoos, a Waluigi amiibo, Rhythm Heaven Megamix, and a new Zelda game that looks legitimately good and criticizes the GamePad for not being all that useful.
Xbox had a very poor showing. I bet some people bought PS4s and Wii Us after this E3, but I don't think anyone bought an Xbox One. If anything, a lot of people probably sold their Xbox Ones.
Xbox had a very poor showing. I bet some people bought PS4s and Wii Us after this E3, but I don't think anyone bought an Xbox One. If anything, a lot of people probably sold their Xbox Ones.
PaulBizkit
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Sony, no doubt. It gave me many reasons to buy a ps4. Most of the games they showed are exclusive to their platform, and that's something big to me. Unlike microsoft, who made me think WHY would anyone buy an xbox one when all their games will come out on pc...
Well, VR won. But in a more specific way, Sony won.
Well, VR won. But in a more specific way, Sony won.
Bitch Pudding
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I am not surpised about Sony winning, too. I am surprised however about who's in front of MS, and the sheer distance between MS and Sony.
By looking at the way he dismissed everything at the Sony conference, I figured he is not an average gamer. I thought I should remind him that all the games he said "nowhere to be seen", were actually at E3. And this poll is about E3.
humansarehorses
Member
Zelda will be Zelda... despite the fact that they showed tons of footage showing that that's not true. That BotW is in fact not going to be the same as past Zeldas.
And FFXV is going to be a story focused JRPG? Hahaha, you haven't play Duscae.
How is your reading comprehension this poor? I made the comparison of Horizon to three different games: MH, Zelda and FFXV.
The fact that you keep only making comparisons between this and MH is incredibly telling.
1. The dialogue system is not a large focus for them outside of lore nor has it ever been a focus in my arguments.
2. Oh no, I can change my weapons during fights to suit the battles! You said that there didn't seem like any variety in how you take down enemies and now you mention this? Ridiculous.
3. Yes, I'm sure the enemies will happily wait to let you shoot exploding rope between trees so they can just run straight into them.
4. You are so done with those games... except for FFXV apparently.
5. They only showed off around 20 minutes of the entire game so this is rather presumptuous but, you know, you do primarily use a bow. While I'm sure the different bows have pros and cons in terms of say, attack speed and windup, to narrowly focus on weight is silly: weight is not the only tradeoff in combat.
6. There's my gut instinct proving I'm right. I saw no blip on the map telling you exactly where the monster is. I saw a NPC tell where you it is and a map to tell you which direction the location's in. Not to mention, the game's quests should give you some direction where the mission's objective is because you know, the map isn't as dinky as it is in MH.
7. So there's slowdown to give you a chance to change your weapons or plant a mine unlike MH. Big deal? I never once said that this is exactly like MH and the fact that you keep pretending like I did only speaks to your educational background.
Also, the road trip motif is why you're buying FFXV even though it is clearly very similar to open world RPGs. God, you are so full of it.
This is the cherry on the top and exactly the type of intellectually bereft thinking you see from Trump and Bernie supporters.
You have to be a shill if you heavily disagree with me, right?
Fucking hilarious.