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[speculawyer]

The xbox 360 has been out for 18 months and there is only one (maybe 2) JRPGs available for it . . . Blue Dragon . . . but MSFT had to totally money-hat in order to get that. (And Blue Dragon isn't even available in the USA yet.)
Some may say Final Fantasy XI . . . but does that really count since it is a MMORPG?
But OK, Japan hates MSFT . . . what about the other consoles.

The PS3 has . . . nothing? WTF? Isn't playstation the traditional home of the JRPG?

And the Wii has . . . nothing? (Unless you want to consider Zelda a JRPG.) Or is Super Paper Mario consider a JRPG?

It just seems weird that we are 7 months into this generation (18 months of 360) and there are no JRPGs.


Why is this the case? I guess some of it has to do with the fact that consoles are becoming almost irrelevant in Japan. The DS rules all. So there are lots of JRPGs on the DS I guess.

Edit: Fixed my FFIX mistake.

 

[sprsk]

Because they take a long time to make.

 

[mabuza]

patience my dear boy. patience

 

[MercuryLS]

Because they take a long time to make.

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Also ther'es a bunch of good looking JRPG's for X360 this year.

 

[watership]

8 months from now..

"WHY ARE THERE SO MANY JRPG on Next Gen consoles!??"

 

[Doom_Bringer]

IMO Xbox 360 is getting most of them. I am really surprised by the lack of RPG's on PS3 but I guess PSP didn't have much going on either

 

[Treo360]

Correction the PS3 has one, even if it's a 360 port.

 

[Speevy]

Because Japanese RPG developers can't all afford to have their games looking like FFXIII?

That's also one of the reasons the 360 is getting so many of them.

 

[Woo-Fu]

Why make a JRPG for a next-gen console when I can make one for the ps2 and sell a lot more copies? We're talking a genre that is not typically a graphics powerhouse.

 

[levious]

this is an odd question unless this is the first console generation you've paid attention to.

 

[Mrbob]

Because they are all being made for the new gen console.

Anyway, I remember PS2 having this same problem. Tons of complaints about lack of Japan RPGS. But they always seem to fall on the latter half of a console cycle. Happened with PS1. Happened with PS2.

 

[Dali]

It isn't just JRPG's. It is RPG's in general. They are a huge undertaking.

 

[Snaku]

You won't have enough money to buy all the Xbox 360 JRPGs that'll be out by the end of this year. You'll have to get a second job, and then you won't have enough time in the day to play them all! Which means you'll be spending much less time on GAF making useless threads like this.

 

[speculawyer]

Because they take a long time to make.

Yeah, that occured to me while writing . . . and I guess that is the best answer. But some of the launch games are non trivial too. And when you consider that the PS3's launch was delayed in Japan for several months plus it is now 7 months after launch, you'd think there would be something by now.

Did MSFT's money-hatting of Mistwalker actually slow JRPG development on other platforms by stealing talent and getting it working on the 360? I'm thinking the lack of JPRGs has been really hurting the PS3 in Japan.

 

[neojubei]

PS3 should be getting some in the next year, hopefully. it is one of the reasons why i bought a PS3, for FF13 and other JRPGs.

I can wait, there are many ps2 RPGs i have not played yet.

 

[Aurora]

Oh... FFXI. When I read FFIX I thought there was a remake I'd missed somewhere. :lol

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Because Japanese RPG developers can't all afford to have their games looking like FFXIII?

That's also one of the reasons the 360 is getting so many of them.

ahhaaa the only Japanese developer that can make an engine at the level of White engine is Tri Ace and they are working one exclusive 360 RPG

 

[speculawyer]

You won't have enough money to buy all the Xbox 360 JRPGs that'll be out by the end of this year.

Really? How many? Might that actually boost the popularity of the xbox 360 in Japan?

I would think that a price cut plus a slew of JRPGs would really help them in Japan . . . they had a fair number of people that bought a 360 just to play Blue Dragon.

 

[Bebpo]

Because they are all being made for the new gen console.

Nope.

Anyway, I remember PS2 having this same problem. Tons of complaints about lack of Japan RPGS. But they always seem to fall on the latter half of a console cycle. Happened with PS1. Happened with PS2.

Yes. There is a reason for that. As said above, decent budget rpgs take 1-3 years to make and that's AFTER the teams get comfortable on the hardware.

X360 rpgs will start appearing at the end of this year, and PS3 ones a year later. Just give it some time.

 

[sphinx]

PS2 was the last pillar to JRPGS.

.- handhelds can never substitute a console so ds and psp are out of the question
.- they hate 360 with passion.
.- they hate PS3 a little less but still.
.- Wii is for the casuals and 1st party.

with the soon to be extinct PS2 in japan, JRPGs will have to be on stand by for the next months until either japanese embrace hi-def gaming or Wii proves it is a viable platform for 3rd parties.

 

[radios shipping overview]

They're also EXPENSIVE to make, and they get more expensive with each console generation.

 

[Steroyd]

Because they take a long time to make.

/thread

JRPG's don't happen quickly it took a year for them to come on DS and PSP (and these were mostly ports for christ sake).

It took a year for PS2 RPG's to happen same with PS1.

No one expects JRPG's until a year after a console's launched the earliest.

 

[Snaku]

with the soon to be extinct PS2 in japan, JRPGs will have to be on stand by for the next months until either japanese embrace hi-def gaming or Wii proves it is a viable platform for 3rd parties.

How can Wii prove it's a viable platform for 3rd parties if they're all sitting around with their dicks in their hands waiting for the shitty 3rd party shovelware that's currently being released on Wii to sell better than Nintendo's first party games?

If they want to succeed on the Wii, they'll have to match and surpass Nintendo's offerings.

 

[65536]

Eternal Sonata says hi:

 

[jarrod]

There's quite a few already released actually...

Xbox 360
-Absolute: Blazing Infinity (Idea Factory) JP*
-Blue Dragon (MGS/MistWalker/Artoon) JP*
-Diario: Reverse Moon Legend (Idea Factory) JP*
-Enchanted Arms (Ubisoft/From/TOSE)
-Final Fantasy XI: Online (Square Enix)
-Phantasy Star Universe (SEGA)
-Spectral Force 3: Innocent Rage (Idea Factory) JP*
-Super Robot Taisen XO (Bandai Namco) JP*
-Tengai Makyou Ziria: Harukanaru Japaing (Hudson/RED) JP*

PlayStation 3
-Enchanted Arms (Ubisoft/From/TOSE)
-Mist of Chaos (Idea Factory) JP*

Wii
-Fire Emblem: Akatsuki no Megami (Nintendo/Intelligent Systems) JP*
-Super Paper Mario (Nintendo/Intelligent Systems)
-The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo)

 

[bigmit3737]

I am waiting for Strat rpgs.

 

[Speevy]

Twilight Princess IS NOT an RPG.

Anyway, how is Absolute Blazing Infinity?

 

[neptunes]

^^^ Thats more jRPGS than the xbox ever got within its lifetime

 

[sonycowboy]

PS2 was the last pillar to JRPGS.

.- handhelds can never substitute a console so ds and psp are out of the question
.- they hate 360 with passion.
.- they hate PS3 a little less but still.
.- Wii is for the casuals and 1st party.

with the soon to be extinct PS2 in japan, JRPGs will have to be on stand by for the next months until either japanese embrace hi-def gaming or Wii proves it is a viable platform for 3rd parties.

What the hell are you talking about? You're blathering is painful to read. Have you seen JRPG sales on the DS? Have the Japanese developers said "we hate the PS3 just a little less than the 360"?

A ton have and continue to come to the DS & PSP.

Also, this year is absolutely insane so far with JRPG's on the PS2.

Rogue Galaxy
Shining Force EXA
Odin Sphere
Dot.Hack G.U. Vol 2 Reminisce
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm with Bonus!
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Special Edition

 

[Kabuki Waq]

I am hoping against hope that it is because people are finally beginning to realize how stale Turn based combat has become

 

[Raist]

IMO Xbox 360 is getting most of them. I am really surprised by the lack of RPG's on PS3 but I guess PSP didn't have much going on either

Well so far the 360 got Oblivion, Enchanted Arms and Blue Dragon.

The PS3 got Oblivion and Enchanted Arms too.

Now for the upcoming ones.

360 : Lost Odyssey, Trusty Bell, Fable 2. What are the other ones ?

PS3 : FFXIII, FF vs XIII, Folklore, WKS, and maybe Trusty Bell (still rumored to be ported or nope ?)

So I guess I missed a few ones, but the 360 isn't getting "most of them" at all AFAIK.

 

[phez]

There's quite a few already released actually...

Xbox 360
-Absolute: Blazing Infinity (Idea Factory) JP*
-Blue Dragon (MGS/MistWalker/Artoon) JP*
-Diario: Reverse Moon Legend (Idea Factory) JP*
-Enchanted Arms (Ubisoft/From/TOSE)
-Final Fantasy XI: Online (Square Enix)
-Phantasy Star Universe (SEGA)
-Spectral Force 3: Innocent Rage (Idea Factory) JP*
-Tengai Makyou Ziria: Harukanaru Japaing (Hudson/RED) JP*

PlayStation 3
-Enchanted Arms (Ubisoft/From/TOSE)
-Mist of Chaos (Idea Factory) JP*

Wii
-Fire Emblem: Akatsuki no Megami (Nintendo/Intelligent Systems) JP*
-Super Paper Mario (Nintendo/Intelligent Systems)
-The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo)

i personally wouldnt group the sprectral force games with the rest, not very 'next-gen'.

 

[Krowley]

Yeah, RPG's take a while to make, which is why it amazed me that 360 got a game like oblivion so early in it's lifespan.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

here is a better questions; When will JRPG's start ripping off BioWare games? KOTOR was released ages ago and so far not a single JRPG has implemented the good/evil conversation system :\

are bioware games released in Japan?

 

[Quazar]

Well so far the 360 got Oblivion, Enchanted Arms and Blue Dragon.

The PS3 got Oblivion and Enchanted Arms too.

Now for the upcoming ones.

360 : Lost Odyssey, Trusty Bell, Fable 2. What are the other ones ?

PS3 : FFXIII, FF vs XIII, Folklore, WKS, and maybe Trusty Bell (still rumored to be ported or nope ?)

So I guess I missed a few ones, but the 360 isn't getting "most of them" at all AFAIK.

:lol

 

[phez]

are bioware games released in Japan?

id like to know this as well!

 

[Jonnyram]

Well so far the 360 got Oblivion, Enchanted Arms and Blue Dragon.

The PS3 got Oblivion and Enchanted Arms too.

Now for the upcoming ones.

360 : Lost Odyssey, Trusty Bell, Fable 2. What are the other ones ?

PS3 : FFXIII, FF vs XIII, Folklore, WKS, and maybe Trusty Bell (still rumored to be ported or nope ?)

So I guess I missed a few ones, but the 360 isn't getting "most of them" at all AFAIK.

What?

 

[zallaaa]

'cause 360 is american, while jRPG are, guess what, japanese and japaneses don't like american consoles. also, Wii and PS3 are still young and RPGs typically take a lot of time to develop.

 

[Bowen_B]

Yeah, RPG's take a while to make, which is why it amazed me that 360 got a game like oblivion so early in it's lifespan.

I just watched the extra disc that came with Oblivion. They said they were building it for the 360 from the start even though the 360 was still just a circle at that point in time.

 

[Speevy]

Peter Molyneux is Japanese, you haven't heard?

 

[sphinx]

What the hell are you talking about? You're blathering is painful to read. Have you seen JRPG sales on the DS? Have the Japanese developers said "we hate the PS3 just a little less than the 360"?
A ton have and continue to come to the DS & PSP.

Also, this year is absolutely insane so far with JRPG's on the PS2.

Rogue Galaxy
Shining Force EXA
Odin Sphere
Dot.Hack G.U. Vol 2 Reminisce
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm with Bonus!
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Special Edition

o.k we can have an argument about DS being the recipient to most of the JRPGS that would otherwise be destined to be on PS2.

However until I see announcements about JRPGS coming to PS3, then yes, japanese are somehow saying " we hate PS3 a little less than 360 ". Announcements for PS3 games are scarce, all together not only about JRPGS.

How many of the games you listed for PS2 have already been released and disappeared from the MC software lists? PS2 has only one more holiday season in Japan and that's all. Half a year.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Well so far the 360 got Oblivion, Enchanted Arms and Blue Dragon.

The PS3 got Oblivion and Enchanted Arms too.

Now for the upcoming ones.

360 : Lost Odyssey, Trusty Bell, Fable 2. What are the other ones ?

PS3 : FFXIII, FF vs XIII, Folklore, WKS, and maybe Trusty Bell (still rumored to be ported or nope ?)

So I guess I missed a few ones, but the 360 isn't getting "most of them" at all AFAIK.

Suikoden VI is coming, just no platform announced yet. I wouldn't be surprised if it to showed up @ TGS this year. There's also The Last Remnant for PS3/360.

 

[RaijinFY]

Suikoden VI is coming, just no platform announced yet. I wouldn't be surprised if it to showed up @ TGS this year. There's also The Last Remnant for PS3/360.

Didnt you get the memo? Suikoden VI on the Wii.

 

[Dega]

360 in US:

Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Cry On
Infinite Undiscovery
Eternal Sonata
Magna Carta 2 (Was this canned?)
Kingdom Under Fire (Action RPG)
Last Remnant (Also for PS3)

I feel like I am missing some though.

 

[Chrono]

I want to see more of White Knight Story. I remember Bebpo saying he's sure it'll be out december 2007 in japan because that's how jrpgs work or something like that. Got my hopes up. :'(

 

[Alcander]

Suikoden VI is coming, just no platform announced yet. I wouldn't be surprised if it to showed up @ TGS this year. There's also The Last Remnant for PS3/360.

Though I really doubt it, I hope Suiko VI goes 360. I'm guessing Wii looks most likely at this point, although the game has always been on Sony consoles.

 

[Quazar]

Suikoden VI is coming, just no platform announced yet. I wouldn't be surprised if it to showed up @ TGS this year. There's also The Last Remnant for PS3/360.

What

 

[jarrod]

Upcoming....

Xbox 360
-Cry-On (AQ/Mistwalker/Artoon)
-Dungeon Explorer (Hudson)
-Eternal Sonata (Bandai Namco/tri-Crescendo)
-Infinite Undiscovery (MGS/tri-Ace)
-Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom (MGS/Phantagram/Bluside)
-Lost Odyssey (MGS/Mistwalker/Feel Plus)
-Magna Carta 2 (Banpresto/Softmax)
-Sangoku Fuugami (Idea Factory)
-The Last Remnant (Square Enix)


PlayStation 3
-Angel Rings (SCEI)
-Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix)
-Final Fantasy Versus XIII (Square Enix)
-Folk Lore (SCEI/Game Republic/Gaia)
-Makai Wars (NIS)
-Master Project (Takyuo)
-Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom)
-Project D (Michaelsoft)
-Rengoku: The End of the Century (Hudson)
-Shin Megami Tensei series (Atlus)
-Super Robot Taisen series (Banpresto)
-The Last Remnant (Square Enix)
-White Knight Story (SCEI/Level 5)

-tba ARPG (AQ/cavia)
-tba RPG (Bandai Namco)
-tba RPG (Gust)
-tba RPG (Konami)
-tba RPG (Success)
-tba SRPG (Sunrise)


Wii
-Chocobo no Fushigi na Dungeon: Toki Wasure No Meikyuu (Square Enix)
-Dragon Quest Swords: the Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Square Enix/Genius Sonority/8ing)
-Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers (Square Enix)
-Kawa no Nushi Tsuri (MMV)
-Opoona (Koei/Arte Piazza)
-Project O (MMV/Cing/Town Factory)
-Super Robot Taisen series (Banpresto)
-Sword of Legendia (Bandai Namco/Tales Studio)

-tba RPG (From Software)
-tba RPG (Konami)

 

[Alcander]

Was it really announced for the Wii? Guess I missed that.

 

[antiloop]

Folklore and Eternal Sonata ftw!

Just release them now dammit.

Next-gen RPGs takes time to make. Especially with these new multicore processors.

Japanese developers aren't used to multi-threading I would think.