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Why can't a handheld game win Overall Game of the Year?
- Thread starter Tripon
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I didn't base my opinion on ALBW on one review. I was pretty clear about that but used to these sorts of arguements by now.
Tearaway was very well received critically as well, I'm not going to refer to a metacritic to help me choose which is better by a slight averaged numerical edge, that people even suggest that with these two totally different but well reviewed games is ___.
And I don't need to play a game myself in this day and age to understand its limitations and what experience it provides and how it compares. I'm not saying it's a bad game, not at all. I'm sure it's very fun and still great despite many people saying they only died once or twice in the whole game (a zelda game...). It still looks like a lot of fun to me and if Tearaway didn't release this year, then I wouldn't be kicking a big fuss over it, even though KZ:M is fantastic. But Tearaway is something else. And it feels like so many people are letting down Tearaway, even people who know how superb and unique it is.
It just isn't on a popular platform, no way it will win GOTY. Handheld gaming devices just aren't popular atm. It has all (and more of) the jazz and presentation value (among other things) to make it compelling to a wide variety of people in the west (which is what people in this thread were saying is necessary to win GOTY), it just isn't going to reach them so it's hard to give it such an award. Handheld GOTY though? Certainly.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
People need to stop making excuses. More people feel that console/PC games are better and that's why handheld games never win.
KillerDark
Member
Console/PC games are usually more "impressive".
BigWeather
Member
Maybe they should just rename it to "Interactive Experience of the Year" or something -- as "Game of the Year" implies (to me, at least) that the game play be rock solid and it's often not among contenders and winners.
It seems to me that you're arguing that Tearaway is a GOTY contender not because it's a great game but because its presentation is good for a hand-held game, despite the fact that just about every major console game beats it in that department this year? And that that's the sole reason it deserves to be portable GOTY over ALPW? Not a very good argument. It's kinda funny that the reason you're arguing that Tearaway should be portable GOTY is the very same thing keeping it from being declared GOTY.
Your sort of post is the reason why I put '(among other things)' in brackets after that and explained why I was talking about presentation quality specifically - others were mentioning that as being the reason why handheld games don't win. It's a really great game for a whole bunch of reasons, not to worry
!Dougstyles
Banned
To be fair, NeoGAF is as guilty of this as anyone. Mass Effect 2, Uncharted 2, and Journey are 3 of our last 4 winners, with The Walking Dead, Skyrim, and Red Dead Redemption as runners up over that span. Though at least we have the excuse of a popular vote naturally boosting the best-selling titles.
Your sort of post is the reason why I put '(among other things)' in brackets after that and explained why I was talking about presentation quality specifically - others were mentioning that as being the reason why handheld games don't win. It's a really great game for a whole bunch of reasons, not to worry
We'll see. I have yet to play Tear Away (though I plan on buying it soon) but right now my personal portable GOTY is ALBW. Might change after I play Tearaway, after all I had no idea how much fun I was going to have with ALBW until I played it.
Don't forget MGS4!
Muffdraul
Member
Pretty much how I see it. I don't think it's impossible for a handheld game to rise above its inherent limitations and "win GOTY" (as if that means jackshit.) But I personally can't imagine thinking of a handheld game a GOTY.
Please note, I haven't played Zelda ALBW yet. I admit, I have a problem with handhelds. I loved the hell out of them back in ye olden thymes, when they were Mattel Electronic Football/Basketball/Hockey, Milton Bradley Microvision, Game & Watch etc. and then a few years later with the Gameboy and my personal all time favorite, the Atari Lynx. But the reason I loved them so much was that they were my only option. My parents refused to have a game console in the house.
Once I started buying my own consoles (i.e. since the 16-bit era, first SNES then Genesis,) it was over for handhelds. I try to get into them, but I just can't. I buy them, I have a DS, a PSP, and a 3DS. I buy games for them, but I think I've collectively played them all for, oh, about two hours. They just can't hold my attention anymore. I held fast and didn't buy a Vita, but I think I probably will just for the PS4 remote play features. Which I'll probably never use...
bigmit3737
Member
I'm confused - is OP referring to Spike VGA show ?
pretty done
Member
Handheld games never win on GAF either. Console games are just, on average, better games.
timetokill
Banned
Accuracy is important.
The bias against handheld games has exceedingly little to do with their quality as games.
Generally. You simply don't see a handheld game win a website or magazines' overall game of the year award.
And I'm surprised some people haven't heard of the concept of overall Game of the Year, how else do you signify the best game of a given year?
SatelliteOfLove
Member
They've won my last two GOTYs and are poised to take this years
ie, what truly matters here. 
GotY awards in general. There's a very, very strong AAA bias to almost all of them.
I'm still baffled as to why this guy hasn't been perma banned yet. His one of the biggest fanboys on this forum. This post is by far the most ridiculous yet. We all know he has spent zero time playing a 3DS game, yet he use so much energy to tell us that x vita game is better than x 3ds game in pretty much every thread I see him in, without ever having touched a 3ds title.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
ALBW, Animal Crossing New Leaf, and Ridiculous fishing are definitely in my top ten this year.
I would love a "best gameplay" award.
Your crap aside, just today in the official thread:
Is it so shocking that I would know what to expect from the title after numerous other posts in the thread and others, video playthroughs, it being heavily based on older styles of gameplay and lots of reviews etc. Yeesh.
You still haven't fucking played the game, and your views are always heavily one sided (everything Sony is best), but you still constantly get away with your bias. Congrats to that I guess. I've never seen you trying to argue that a none Sony game looks better than a Sony game. Jees, I guess why.
You make the incorrect assumption I play shitty games like BF and COD. I play Uncharted, Heavy Rain, Okami HD, God of War, Mass Effect 2, Pixel Junk Eden, DmC, Bayonetta, Killzone 2 / 3 etc. I have 0 interest in your "average" MP game with SP tacked on, I'm purely SP focused
What, why is my post being quoted here out of context? Are you suggesting my post in the other thread backs up your claim that LTTP and ALBW are the same game or ALBW doesn't offer anything new over LTTP? Man, that's some serious twisting of words...
That's still nothing like what I was saying... I was suggesting that they should play LTTP next as it compares most to ALBW out of all the Zelda games.
Anyway...
I was trying to think if any game was ever worthy. Let's see
Link's Awakening? This is probably the best chance for handhelds ever. My 1993 GOTY is Gunstar Heroes, but LA might be runner-up. It honestly didn't win any GOTY awards? Surprising.
Pokemon? In Japan it came out the same year as SM64. In the US, OoT. No dice.
Advance Wars? Halo CE was too revolutionary, imo.
Mario Land 2? Not in the US - it had to compete with A Link to the Past. Possibly in Japan it had a chance, but only if Final Fantasy V and Dragon Quest V splinter the jRPG fan votes.
Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga? Kotor and Call of Duty were just too popular.
Link's Awakening? This is probably the best chance for handhelds ever. My 1993 GOTY is Gunstar Heroes, but LA might be runner-up. It honestly didn't win any GOTY awards? Surprising.
Pokemon? In Japan it came out the same year as SM64. In the US, OoT. No dice.
Advance Wars? Halo CE was too revolutionary, imo.
Mario Land 2? Not in the US - it had to compete with A Link to the Past. Possibly in Japan it had a chance, but only if Final Fantasy V and Dragon Quest V splinter the jRPG fan votes.
Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga? Kotor and Call of Duty were just too popular.
I've never felt a handheld game has been worthy to receive GotY over console or PC games. Remakes and enhanced versions don't count. A lot of people need to get over the fact that most media outlets will never think ALBW, ACNL, SMT4, etc. are better than TLOU, GTAV, etc, and move on. I also agree with the media outlets.
Dougstyles
Banned
This is really sad to read, and indicative of the "interactive experience" continuing its rise over great design among the masses and the media.
Astral/H3X
Member
MH3U is on Wii U for that 60" action. And it's 1080p, so almost exactly what you'd get if there was a PS4 version, because Capcom don't graphics this series.