Rob Schnoddor
Banned
How about the Monster Hunter that runs in HD on a Nintendo console?
And no backpeddling now, it runs in HD, it IS an HD Monster Hunter. So wish granted.
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Why does Monster Hunter 4 have to look like shit?
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How about the Monster Hunter that runs in HD on a Nintendo console?
And no backpeddling now, it runs in HD, it IS an HD Monster Hunter. So wish granted.
Loving such comments ....
AgentOtaku
Member
superpickleman
Member
The question for me now is whether or not to pass on MH4 in favor of the inevitable MH4Ultimate a few years down the line?
I have no patience, both it is
AKingNamedPaul
I am Homie
MH never really pushes consoles in the graphics department. It's always about gameplay and art design, but screens of the game never look all that great.
Speak for yourself. There are some PS1 games I still like the look of today for those reasons.
AgentOtaku
Member
That's a whole 'nother argument, but yeah, it's sad.
MoonLightWave
Member
FYI, that's why I said a real HD Monster Hunter. Which for me means decent assets and not a lazy port from a handheld.
mullet2000
Member
Okay. And? It still looks better than their previous release which is on the same hardware. Not to mention the game isn't even done yet.
AgentOtaku
Member
So...
You're saying you'd like some games to STILL animate like we were still in the 32bit era?
:/
ExigentContact
Member
The game has a lot of effects running and much better lighting that Tri G. In cutscenes there's also quite a bit of nice animations for people and the monsters in general animate much better than in previous games. Shame about the dreadful texture resolution and low-poly environments, but you can't win 'em all.
Kinda hoping we get both in the west at the same time again
AgentOtaku
Member
Monsters look far better on 4 than 3G for me. Realtime self-shadowing on monsters, shadows cast on monsters and players, etc 
37~ on the Nintendo Direct trailer shows this pretty well. Maybe this is just your graphical preferences OP? I'll agree that in screenshots they look muddier, but in motion it's a leap forward. And I don't plan on looking at screenshots when I get the full game.
37~ on the Nintendo Direct trailer shows this pretty well. Maybe this is just your graphical preferences OP? I'll agree that in screenshots they look muddier, but in motion it's a leap forward. And I don't plan on looking at screenshots when I get the full game.Hilarious.
I think Threads of Fate and Rival Schools animated better than some modern games do.
I agree with this 100%. The game looks fine; there's no need to bump up the graphical fidelity just because it's technically possible.
I do kind of wish that they were making it a 3DS/Wii cross-compatible game like MH3U, so that there could be a version of the game that looks prettier through sheer hardware power, even with the exact same assets (ie: high resolution, anti-aliasing, etc). But I don't want them to waste their time trying to make their game into a big technical showcase.
AgentOtaku
Member
Monsters look far better on 4 than 3G for me. Realtime self-shadowing on monsters, shadows cast on monsters and players, etc
At worst, the game looks like ass
At best, it looks wildly imbalanced to good
MoonLightWave
Member
How do you explain Dragons Dogma? They could have developed a decent graphical Monster Hunter instead and made more money.
Criminal Upper
Banned
Because the last thing the Monster Hunter team wants to do is push boundaries.
Wolf Akela
Member
Yeah, I always thought MH4 looked ugly.
Horrible ground textures paired with ultra saturated colors.
Horrible ground textures paired with ultra saturated colors.
AgentOtaku
Member
Want or can't?
Gianni Merryman
Member
1) The game isn't out yet, and those screenshots are not from a definitive build, so we may expect some improvements, seeing how Capcom has managed to push 3DS's limits.
2) It's a 3DS game, so their top priorities would ideally be a rock-solid framerate, and a seamless funny gameplay, over any frills and thrills.
3) Best selling Monster hunter games so far were on PSP, but that was not a big issues for Japanese fans of the series apparently, as in Japan - that's where pretty much all MH fanbase is - it is popular as a handheld game.
This one is bound to sell shedloads, hopefully it will be lots of fun and bring new features; this is what matters methinks, as much as I'd like a home-console version.
2) It's a 3DS game, so their top priorities would ideally be a rock-solid framerate, and a seamless funny gameplay, over any frills and thrills.
3) Best selling Monster hunter games so far were on PSP, but that was not a big issues for Japanese fans of the series apparently, as in Japan - that's where pretty much all MH fanbase is - it is popular as a handheld game.
This one is bound to sell shedloads, hopefully it will be lots of fun and bring new features; this is what matters methinks, as much as I'd like a home-console version.
For its scope and art style, yes, it does. Technically, I'm taking MH3U because I've actually experienced and seen that first hand but that runs on 60fps (even in 3D, I think) and with the scope of the world, the art style and animations, it looks great. I'm not saying other games are ugly (Luigi's Mansion looks great, too) but to call MH4/MH3DS ugly? No, not really. The one thing that plagues MH4 is texture size.
Technically I could say the Mii Street Pass Puzzles look EVEN better graphically. But that's a mostly a single model with a simple animation with hardly anything going on. So contextually, yes, Monster Hunter looks great.
The Horror the horror
Banned
This thread = stealth port begging (Vita)
Yeah it looks like shit.
I am impressed that they didn't go for better graphic considering they earn a lot from MH franchize.
Metalmurphy
Member
They made millions while still using assets very much like the first game. (some pretty much identical)
Sucks for us, but I'm sure they're enjoying the profits.
Sucks for us, but I'm sure they're enjoying the profits.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Looks better than what we first saw.
But just go ahead and ask why it isn't coming as a Vita exclusive -
If only you guys bought Vitas this wouldn't have happened
darkistheway
Member
Wrong word maybe... i was thinking number of assets required.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Monster Hunter is primarily about social play in settings that support what has always made it popular in Japan. Keeping it primarily on handhelds makes sense in a lot of ways, regardless of visual limitations.
Ultimately, it's a case of "it's nice to want things". It'd be nice to see MH monsters with UE4 visuals, but that's not really the selling point of the series so ultimately isn't critical. If by some chance MH3U on Wii U grinds out a larger console following for the series as time goes by, Capcom might invest more resources in fully overhauling the visual assets for console releases.
For instance, I wouldn't rule out MH4 getting a Wii U version that has more dramatically upgraded environmental and character assets - especially since the Wii U version of MH3U was a rush job with almost nothing to it besides redrawing the UI at 1080p.
But again, it probably boils down to whether it becomes worth it to sink a lot of money into console versions of the games again.
Ultimately, it's a case of "it's nice to want things". It'd be nice to see MH monsters with UE4 visuals, but that's not really the selling point of the series so ultimately isn't critical. If by some chance MH3U on Wii U grinds out a larger console following for the series as time goes by, Capcom might invest more resources in fully overhauling the visual assets for console releases.
For instance, I wouldn't rule out MH4 getting a Wii U version that has more dramatically upgraded environmental and character assets - especially since the Wii U version of MH3U was a rush job with almost nothing to it besides redrawing the UI at 1080p.
But again, it probably boils down to whether it becomes worth it to sink a lot of money into console versions of the games again.
It was a correction. You said 3 Ultimate just came out, and that wasn't really the case. Typically games look better as the platform ages, especially sequels developed for hardware vs. an expanded port.
Really? I thought the Monster Hunter games on PSP were quite the lookers, and so was Tri on Wii. 4 is a decent looking game on 3DS. The problem is that in 2013 PS2-esque visuals are no longer that impressive.
Snapshot King
Member
Exactly. They're so terrified to fuck up the formula that they'd rather create an entirely new series in Dragons Dogma than mess with it. I mean hell, the big addition to 3 was underwater, and now that shits gone.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
That does look horrid, but does the 3DS have any examples of open environment games with decent textures? Not a single one comes to mind...
How can you fuck up formula making your game look better ?
Because Vita 2 sticks is too much
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Capcom LOVES Nintendo their love is unconditional. Tons of good games missed other consoles because of that.
ExigentContact
Member
Lighting is better. Environments are also bigger. It's a trade-off, but it works. Both of those games also are much simpler in terms of artistic approach, which allows them to look better a lot more easily. And Nintendo plus its partners at its core will always understand how to juice their systems better than third parties (to be fair Capcom has showcased the 3DS' capabilities from a more "realistic" approach quite nicely with Resident Evil: Revelations).
I think MH4 looks quite nice in motion. If it had higher resolution textures it would be a much better looking game. You do what you can on the 3DS, though. I don't really care as long as its framerate is smooth.
Grinchy
Banned
At this point, I think Capcom just loves milking as much as they can out of the series. They can makes these games for pennies and sell millions of copies. I think the only reason we're not seeing a new console version that isn't a handheld port is because it would be expensive. Why take the risk?
If the fanbase is willing to buy what looks like it was possible on a handheld made before Youtube existed, why risk any money?
If the fanbase is willing to buy what looks like it was possible on a handheld made before Youtube existed, why risk any money?
PaulExcellent
Member
Nah, 3DS is relatively strong. Look at Mario Kart and Resident Evil.
Still, I'm sure that the WiiU version will look just swell, so don't worry.
I like Tri's graphics, and these do seem a bit weaker.
Is that just me?
ExigentContact
Member
Yeah, Monster Hunter has never worked with one analogue stick, ever.
WonkyPanda
Member
I've never really seen screen caps from a 3DS game look 'good.' Even MH3U looked pretty arsy in screens. However, the game is really beautiful on the 3DS and Capcom really knows how to take advantage of the 3D and depth.