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Why does the PS3 and 360 output similar graphics?

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Atrus said:
Like I said, potentiality versus actuality. In this case your position is, 'well if the XBOX 360 had a game with that budget it'll do it too'.

In my view I see actuality as a stronger argument than potentiality.

I never said that, If I said that I would have compared it to Alan Wake. Which I did not, although Alan doesn't have a similar budget it does have similar dev time. Anyway, I don't think either KZ2 or GOW2 are going to look better than, anything coming out of a Rare\Insominac studio. That's a given.
 
EverSoTrendy said:
the texture work in that game is fucking insane. Mind is blown
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EverSoTrendy said:
That's a horrible picture of Uncharted, you should have did the Sub scene or the Jeep scene.

there was a stunning pic a few pages back that's been posted here like a zillion times. it's a pretty game for sure. it's just not the end all be all. or it is the end all be all. opinions and all that jazz....
 
jaypah said:
there was a stunning pic a few pages back that's been posted here like a zillion times. it's a pretty game for sure. it's just not the end all be all. or it is the end all be all. opinions and all that jazz....

Shooting the screenshots with camera makes magic happen!
 
So I just read through this thread. Aside from the blatantly obvious trollbait thread I think this topic has some of the worst grammar in it that I've ever seen. I know that I'm no English major but I think there's got to be some kind of correlation between threads like this and the IQ of the trolls that post in it.
 
i remember back in the days of the SNES/Genesis where each version actually looked and felt different, you could definitely see the difference between each systems capabilities. But now i think it's the whole multi-platform crap that's making the PS3 and 360 versions looks the same even though the PS3 is way more capable than the 360.
 
Uncharted looks amazing
Viva Pinata looks amazing
Killzone 2 looks amazing
Gears of War 2 looks amazing

The end.

Do we really need to dig this old stuff up and beat it beyond death every fucking month? There is nothing that separates this thread from the thousands that have come before it...and for all the arguing and meltdowns and name-calling: no one honestly cares.

The 360 and PS3 look bloody amazing and have some wonderful exclusives. Some of their games might look similar, but it really is worth buying both.
 
Atrus said:
Like I said, potentiality versus actuality. In this case your position is, 'well if the XBOX 360 had a game with that budget it'll do it too'.

In my view I see actuality as a stronger argument than potentiality.

The 360 does in GoW2 if you choose to look at it like that. Guerrilla aren't selling their engine but i'm sure the tech is being passed all around SCE.
 
Gattsu25 said:
Uncharted looks amazing
Viva Pinata looks amazing
Killzone 2 looks amazing
Gears of War 2 looks amazing

Oh woe. You said the forbidden words! Now the earth will be swallowed by a black hole.
 
Replying to the OP, the reason is that the only area where the PS3 does have a significant advantage (SPE floating point calculations) is both non-trivial to exploit fully, and -- unless used really well throughout rendering pipeline, see the guerilla games KZ2 presentation -- not immediately visible in screenshots.

jett said:
Just coming back to say that WrikaWrek is one insane dude
You just noticed that?
 
hey, speaking of graphics, you guys should really try to get to the 4th level of Too Human. IMO, that level has some of the best graphics this gen.
 
jaypah said:
see? this is what i mean about fanboyism making people crazy this gen. kindly hop off my nuts with this bullshit please. i never even stated what i think about Uncharted (personally i think it probably is the best looking released console game released). but again it's just an opinion and that's all people are throwing out there. so again, people who like Uncharted think Uncharted is great. we already fucking knew this :lol


Hop off ur nutz?:lol

Fanboy? In my first post in this thread I said I don't think uncharted is the best looking game. Of course its all opinion but I can't say that car vault on the Wii is the best looking game of the generation can I?
 
They are always the same shots too. Off screen shots from the same dude, and they are used always.

But come with off screen shots that make Halo 3 and PGR look like the 2nd coming of christ, and people will instantly say "IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT ON MY T.V!!!!!"
 
EverSoTrendy said:
I never said that, If I said that I would have compared it to Alan Wake. Which I did not, although Alan doesn't have a similar budget it does have similar dev time. Anyway, I don't think either KZ2 or GOW2 are going to look better than, anything coming out of a Rare\Insominac studio. That's a given.

But that was your excuse. That KZ2 shouldn't be brought up because of the large budget.

While this doesn't mean the games on the 360 look bad, there's a clear indication that the developers on the PS3 are aiming for a higher bar and in many cases are actually achieving it.
 
gtj1092 said:
Hop off ur nutz?:lol

Fanboy? In my first post in this thread I said I don't think uncharted is the best looking game. Of course its all opinion but I can't say that car vault on the Wii is the best looking game of the generation can I?

nuts, nutz....spell it how you like, just evacuate them please.

and yes, you can. using the most technical resources? nope, can't make that argument. but best looking game to you? sure. it'll be your crazy opinion! saying Uncharted is the best looking game isn't a crazy opinion to have but it's still just that. an opinion. someone here thinks Viva looks better. how are we going to measure who's right? exactly....we can't. but we can toss them opinions around until niagra falls though, right?

-viper- said:
But it looks better than any currently released 360 games.

see? :lol

(for the record i don't know if -viper- is being serious or not)
 
jaypah said:
nuts, nutz....spell it how you like, just evacuate them please.

and yes, you can. using the most technical resources? nope, can't make that argument. but best looking game to you? sure. it'll be your crazy opinion! saying Uncharted is the best looking game isn't a crazy opinion to have but it's still just that. an opinion. someone here thinks Viva looks better. how are we going to measure who's right? exactly....we can't. but we can toss them opinions around until niagra falls though, right?



see? :lol

(for the record i don't know if -viper- is being serious or not)

I believe you jumped on mine first seeing as how you responded to my post but please continuing being the bad ass that you are.
 
Your hyperbole has no source because it was never uttered by Sony. It is nothing more than folklore that continues to spread. The RSX and Xenos have similar performance characteristics - fin.
 
Truespeed said:
Your hyperbole has no source because it was never uttered by Sony. It is nothing more than folklore that continues to spread. The RSX and Xenos have similar performance characteristics - fin.

Ahh No, well with help from cell Yes.
 
WrikaWrek said:
They are always the same shots too. Off screen shots from the same dude, and they are used always.

But come with off screen shots that make Halo 3 and PGR look like the 2nd coming of christ, and people will instantly say "IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT ON MY T.V!!!!!"
Pretty much how it works.

How long will it take I wonder...

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Some one said earlier they liked Star Wars Force Unleashed, lets see how well it stands up in the 'off screen' shots....



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...but will it look like that on your TV?
 
WrikaWrek said:
They are always the same shots too. Off screen shots from the same dude, and they are used always.

But come with off screen shots that make Halo 3 and PGR look like the 2nd coming of christ, and people will instantly say "IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT ON MY T.V!!!!!"


You mean offscreen shots of the Photo modes?



/me looks a couple of posts above


... Exactly...
 
:lol this thread also I knew there would be Uncharted posting (There's a few better looking games on both consoles).

Good news is the CURRENT BEST LOOKING GAME (imo) on both consoles is MULTIPLATFORM and looks IDENTICAL on both consoles and its PURE. (but that does nothing for you battling fools)
 
enough with the 720p crap, if developers made the effort to have games support 1080p then they would look just as good as the still shots we see in previews. I think Sony is the only company putting the effort in making 1080p games.
 
gtj1092 said:
I believe you jumped on mine first seeing as how you responded to my post but please continuing being the bad ass that you are.

there's a difference between answering a post and putting words in someones mouth like a broken hearted broad would do. the former is GAF, the latter is you all over my nuts for whatever reason. and i don't understand the bad-ass comment. unless my use of the word 'nuts' somehow implies that i'm Rambo.

but you lost whatever argument we were having a long time ago when i corrected you so, ta?
 
marwan said:
enough with the 720p crap, if developers made the effort to have games support 1080p then they would look just as good as the still shots we see in previews. I think Sony is the only company putting the effort in making 1080p games.

Really? Which games?

There's a reason you don't see a lot of 1080p games.
 
Graf Nudu said:
Yes, there are:

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Soul Calibur IV is stressing Xbox 360 in ways Namco-Bandai has been unable or unwilling to match on the equivalent PlayStation 3 code. For one thing, the game is running internally with a whopping great 40 per cent resolution increase on the Microsoft console, with a native framebuffer of 1365x960 versus the standard 1280x720 on the PlayStation 3. The Xbox 360 version also has an extra layer of lighting effects completely absent on the PS3 game - though the effect is rather subtle.

ouch, dude.
 
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