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Mr Fanboy, what you've said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought.

Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.

I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

:D
 
f@lus said:
Gear 2 doesnt look leaps better than gears, honestly. Look the videos . but it looks amazing coz gear 1 is still one of the best looking game , period. I just cant find whats amazing about banjo seriously, and ive seen many video. It looks really good but not in the top tier of this gen at all. but ill never put that kind of game in a top anyway (like R&C , it looks great , but cartony looking game isnt my cup of tea).
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When you take into account the increase in level size, the higher poly models, better lighting, far more enemies on screen at once i would say its a pretty big leap. At first glance they may look similar but under the hood its an entirely different beast and not something that could have been squeezed out of the 360 a couple of years back.

I would think Uncharted 2 will be much the same. As it looks so good already it will improve greatly technically, but superficially look similar. This wouldnt mean that the PS3 has stagnated or reach its limit though. Its pretty dumb to think this of either console.

As for Banjo, thats the thing. Technically it could be as good as Heavy Rain, or Gears 2 but will never get credit for it as most people are only impressed by realistic looking games.
 
You can easily tell we are nearing the end of a fiscal quarter - the shills are out in full force, trying to earn their paychecks! :lol
 
So last generation Xbox fanboy's had the graphics, Playstation fanboy's had the games, and this generation its the complete opposite?
 
TheHeretic said:
So last generation Xbox fanboy's had the graphics, Playstation fanboy's had the games, and this generation its the complete opposite?
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pretty much. They all switched arguments, but few actually switched sides.
 
Brashnir said:
pretty much. They all switched arguments, but few actually switched sides.
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I can understand a console graphics whore, as absurd as that is in itself, i'll never understand people who pledge themselves to a brand.
 
TheHeretic said:
I can understand a console graphics whore, as absurd as that is in itself, i'll never understand people who pledge themselves to a brand.
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If you've got a finite amount of money and can't afford to buy multiple platforms why wouldn't you stick with what you know if it paid dividends in the previous generation? That was my reasoning for getting a 360 at launch. Back then I couldn't even imagine buying a Wii or PS3 at their launches because I couldn't possibly afford it. In the end I could afford it, but if I couldn't I'd be a 360 only owner because the Xbox gave me such great experiences.
 
saunderez said:
If you've got a finite amount of money and can't afford to buy multiple platforms why wouldn't you stick with what you know if it paid dividends in the previous generation?
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If you've got time to console warrior on neogaf you've got time to research the consoles.
 
saunderez said:
If you've got a finite amount of money and can't afford to buy multiple platforms why wouldn't you stick with what you know if it paid dividends in the previous generation?
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Cause it's not what capitalism is about.

Real men piss on all the brands equally.
 
saunderez said:
If you've got a finite amount of money and can't afford to buy multiple platforms why wouldn't you stick with what you know if it paid dividends in the previous generation?
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Sure, that's fine... but it never made sense to defend that brand.
 
TheHeretic said:
If you've got time to console warrior on neogaf you've got time to research the consoles.
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Why bother? If the Xbox gave you a good time why not just get a 360? If the PS2 gave you a good time get a PS3. Ditto with the Gamecube. Gaming isn't that serious, most people will find something to love on any platform without having to do any "research".
 
saunderez said:
Why bother? If the Xbox gave you a good time why not just get a 360? If the PS2 gave you a good time get a PS3. Ditto with the Gamecube. Gaming isn't that serious, most people will find something to love on any platform without having to do any "research".
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Most people will. Most people won't come on here and battle to the death over minute differences between the platforms. The real hypocrisy is that they aren't interested in the merits of the platforms, they just blindly buy whatever has the right logo and just argue its supposed strengths later.
 
saunderez said:
Why bother? If the Xbox gave you a good time why not just get a 360? If the PS2 gave you a good time get a PS3. Ditto with the Gamecube. Gaming isn't that serious, most people will find something to love on any platform without having to do any "research".
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I don't even stop there, I get deeper baby.

It's all about demographics man.

Microsoft attracts a certain brand of people because they know HOW to attract that brand of people. Nintendo too, but Microsoft are the true masters. Dropping off free cans of Axe Body Spray, increasing all our chances to mate.
 
Truant said:
Uncharted looks great in screens, but in motion it has no weight to it.

It kinda reminds me of this: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1dMbxrspfoU
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it still animates better than 90% of other console games however...people praise AC on here alot and while the range of animations were good, the animations looked pretty jerky to me, especially his climbing...looks nothing like the real thang...

Like I said before though, don't really care which system supposedly has more power over the others...MGS4 is definitely the game which impressed me most so far...the art plus tech is amazing to me
 
nelsonroyale said:
it still animates better than 90% of other console games however...people praise AC on here alot and while the range of animations were good, the animations looked pretty jerky to me, especially his climbing...looks nothing like the real thang...

Like I said before though, don't really care which system supposedly has more power over the others...MGS4 is definitely the game which impressed me most so far...the art plus tech is amazing to me
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forgetting that the AC animations were awesome because the system took over damn near everything.

All games that take the most from the player have the best animations. Stop and play FIFA 07 one day.....some of the best animations of all time. The cost, a game where you were pushing like one button per hour.
 
Sol.. said:
forgetting that the AC animations were awesome because the system took over damn near everything.

All games that take the most from the player have the best animations. Stop and play FIFA 07 one day.....some of the best animations of all time. The cost, a game where you were pushing like one button per hour.
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yep. It's amazing how much better sports games controlled when each guy had like 3 total frames of animation. Play Tecmo Bowl, then play a modern football game.
 
Atrophis said:
If you honestly think Gears 2 doesn't look leaps better than Gears then you need to do a little more research buddy.

360 isn't maxed. Show me a 360 game that looks as good as Banjo thats already in stores.
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If you think that GOW2 look leaps better than GOW you probably don't know what leaps better really mean.

I would not expect much from the 360 if i were you,much like the original xbox the ease of use and friendly hardware mean that most of the power of the system will be use between the first years,progress on the console will not be like on the PS2 or like the PS3.

Is the reason why after GOW so many games release for the 360 don't quite beat GOW,even to this day and even that some of you will deny it GOW still is one of the best looking games the 360 has.

Hell i say few games beat GOW graphically on 360 and the few that do don't quite beat it in all the place,they look better but when the topic is character detail they still lack compare to GOW.That is how stale the xbox 360 graphics have become.
 
Kestastrophe said:
Doesn't Uncharted have "auto-platforming"? how is that any different
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I'm speaking in a general sense with animation systems this generation with AC being the DEFACTO symbol of a potential shitty future of animations in games. Uncharted's auto jumping is a weird hybrid where they probably shoulda gone full if they were going to lock up any part of it at all. But i don't know how it works so *shrug*
 
Maloney said:
And yet Xbox 360 graphics are still comparable to the PS3.

Great lunchtime read by the way =)
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If you think that 360 look compare than PS3 you probably don't know what compare better really mean.

/Tormentoso
 
Uncharted doesn't have auto-jumping/platforming, WTF. The platforming in this game plays almost exactly like Prince of Persia, with the difference that you can jump whenever you want.
 
Kestastrophe said:
Doesn't Uncharted have "auto-platforming"? how is that any different
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Are you kidding me? It's different simply because the focus of the gameplay in Uncharted isn't platforming. It's primarily a shooter and you spend most of your time doing just that. Furthermore, the platforming (as limited as it is) isn't even automated! Have you even played the game?
 
Sol.. said:
I'm speaking in a general sense with animation systems this generation with AC being the DEFACTO symbol of a potential shitty future of animations in games.
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I actually thought that you were criticizing AC's animation due to auto-platforming while praising Uncharted for the same thing, based on Nelson's comments.
 
Kestastrophe said:
If you think that 360 look compare than PS3 you probably don't know what compare better really mean.

/Tormentoso
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Look up the meaning of comparable.

Ok, Lets take FIFA 09 as an example, as it's due for release on both formats. Do you really believe that the PS3 version will graphically outstrip the 360 by such a wide margin that it will not be regarded as looking similar?

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing that either the PS3 or 360 doesn't have games with outstanding graphical beauty, I'm just saying that the bulk of games released on both platforms are graphically..... comparable.
 
nelsonroyale said:
it still animates better than 90% of other console games however...
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Now that i think of it, i believe when speaking about uncharted, it's worth mentioning it's sub 30fps most of the time and with some tearing.
Just saying.
 
Maloney said:
And yet Xbox 360 graphics are still comparable to the PS3.

Great lunchtime read by the way =)
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Yep they are but several games do stand over the best looking games on 360,while almost all is comparable and allot of games look better on 360,there are a few that do stand as the best looking period and they happen to be on PS3.

But the PS3 is close to 2 years the xbox 360 is close to 3,the xbox 360 games should by now be ahead,because not only the console is easy and the hardware more dev friendly but the developers know the hardware better than the PS3,because it has more time on the market.

So what is holding the xbox 360 from showing better looking games than anything that is on PS3.?Can't be developer since the better looking the game the more flames wars start and the more free promo the game gets.There was a point when every one saw GOW that nov 2006 that every one freeze and say wow this is the best looking thing ever,now people see GOW2 and as much as they want to pretend that is has the same impact force the first one carry it doesn't and is mainly because on 2006 nothing looked great on PS3,now games like Uncharted still the ace to beat alone side GT5,and games that are coming do look better than GOW2.

Only time will tell if i was right or wrong about xbox 360 games not progressing in the same way PS2 ones did,or if the PS3 ones will progress like the PS2 ones.
 
eso76 said:
Now that i think of it, i believe when speaking about uncharted, it's worth mentioning it's sub 30fps most of the time and with some tearing.
Just saying.
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This is some bullshit...and the tearing is pretty much gone after the first couple of chapters.
 
Lion Heart said:
Please answer truthfully. Have you ever added a delusional 360 fanboy to your ignore list? If not, what does that tell you.
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I've yet to come across a 360 fanboy here that is as vocal and borderline retarded as some of the Ps3 fans that are really freaking vocal about their opinions.

I haven't ignored PC fanboys or Wii fanboys either. So what does that tell you? That some Ps3 fanboys are crazy, that's all.

That's the gap this generation.
 
eso76 said:
Now that i think of it, i believe when speaking about uncharted, it's worth mentioning it's sub 30fps most of the time and with some tearing.
Just saying.
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Yeah that was also worth mentioning when the topic was GOW,sub 30FPS and with some tearing,yet still the game is one of the best looking games out.
 
Tormentoso said:
Yeah that was also worth mentioning when the topic was GOW,sub 30FPS and with some tearing,yet still the game is one of the best looking games out.
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I can run Gears of War at 60 FPS and it looks better than Uncharted, by a huge margin.
 
WrikaWrek said:
I've yet to come across a 360 fanboy here that is as vocal and borderline retarded as some of the Ps3 fans that are really freaking vocal about their opinions.

I haven't ignored PC fanboys or Wii fanboys either. So what does that tell you? That some Ps3 fanboys are crazy, that's all.

That's the gap this generation.
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Busted double standard all the way:lol ,is funny i have see some that look down right retarded to me,but one most respect other people opinions not matter how bogus you think they are.

Actually what that tell me is that you are not a PS2 fan like you say,and that you probably make stuff off in order to look not biased.The way i see it you are and xbox fan hiding under the mighty PS2.:D
 
After reading it a few titles, I've really started to love the thread title of this thread. The innocence of it has brought out the rage on both sides.
 
eso76 said:
Now that i think of it, i believe when speaking about uncharted, it's worth mentioning it's sub 30fps most of the time and with some tearing.
Just saying.
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do you know what most of the time means? it 30fps almost locked everytime. It more locked than gear was i think , and it was ok in gear. when its 98%+ , why bother? gonna me the same for gear 2
 
TheHeretic said:
I can run Gears of War at 60 FPS and it looks better than Uncharted, by a huge margin.
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TOTL PC.? because on 360 it doesn't which is the topic,i think you are confuse and think that the topic was ""Why does the PS3 and PC output similar graphics?"" that is not the topic.
 
dark10x said:
Are you kidding me? It's different simply because the focus of the gameplay in Uncharted isn't platforming. It's primarily a shooter and you spend most of your time doing just that. Furthermore, the platforming (as limited as it is) isn't even automated! Have you even played the game?
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My auto-platforming comment was in the form of a question because I haven't played the game, but it was one of the complaints that I have heard levied against it. I wasn't dogging the game's animation, I was requesting clarification as to the difference between AC and Uncharted animation if they both used "auto-platforming" (I took Sol's comments as praising Uncharted while condoning AC's animation).
 
Tormentoso said:
TOTL PC.? because on 360 it doesn't which is the topic,i think you are confuse and think that the topic was ""Why does the PS3 and PC output similar graphics?"" that is not the topic.
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I'm just pointing out the irony in how desperate you are to prop up games with sub-hd resolutions and barely any AA/AF, meanwhile your platform of awesome graphics was undone months after release by Crysis.

And I mean completely undone, because I was playing Crysis last year and it looked so much better than any PS3 game (and every PS3 game that will ever be) that actually arguing for the PS3 as a platform for great visuals is a complete joke.

f@luS said:
not really
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ya, rly.
 
I can confirm for definate that all 360 multi-platform games performs better than PS3,i have tried most first hand on my panasonic plasma with same picture settings on HDMI.
But I am selling my 360,why?
Because my 5th falcon elite is on the blink and being in my mid thirties with a wife,son,mortgage and my own business I will damned if I am going to hand over any more of my hard earned money to a company that refuses to recall and fix a doomed piece of consumer electronics.
It's called personal pride and integrity and to be honest, if I could personally throw the damned thing at steve balmer in the face and catch bill gates on the rebound I would.
 
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