BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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I want to play it.
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Why isn't Suikoden 2 on PSN?
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JumpJeff84
Member
Yeah I've always wanted to play it too. I think maybe I heard something about music licensing?
RottenTanuki
Member
Pretty stupid, it's like Earthbound of the PS1 era. So many people are clamoring to play it.
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
This question applies to a lot of games that are missing and would sell reasonably well. The answer is that there is no answer. It will always be a mystery
graywolf323
Member
Konami is dumb
that's the only reason I can come up with
edit: I disagree with people who claim this is like a lot of other games that are missing, what other prominent series have the first game up but not the second?
Tomba doesn't count
that's the only reason I can come up with
edit: I disagree with people who claim this is like a lot of other games that are missing, what other prominent series have the first game up but not the second?
Tomba doesn't count
rocketskates
Member
Revolutionary
Member
Because Konami sucks
cj_iwakura
Member
Real probable answer: it's poorly translated and buggy.
SquashMatch
Member
Because Konami is a bunch of idiots. Suikoden is my favorite RPG series and I would probably cry if they announced 6 was actually going to get made!!
For a bunch of reasons I am under NDA not to talk about.
But I can tell you it's NOT all these:
At least some people have come up with reasonable reasons (albeit incorrect):
But I can tell you it's NOT all these:
At least some people have come up with reasonable reasons (albeit incorrect):
DidntKnowJack
Member
Well, there ya go. Konami didn't know you wanted to play it. I'm sure now the cat's out of the bag...
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Because fuck you is why
Sorry.
Sorry.Did Suikoden 1 not have these hurdles?
So is Xenogears, but that didn't stop Square Enix.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Because konami hates making me happy
Konami is dumb
that's the only reason I can come up with
edit: I disagree with people who claim this is like a lot of other games that are missing, what other prominent series have the first game up but not the second?
Tomba doesn't count
Breath of Fire III is on PSP in Europe but neither region has the ps1 version. Whereas BoF IV is up in the US.
Manmademan
Member
yeah, no.
The marvel games WERE on PSN, and even got re-releases specific to the format with improvements. Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Marvel vs. Capcom 1, AND Marvel Super Heroes were all PSN games. The marvel license has simply expired. Anyone who was really interested had plenty of time.
On the other hand, Suikoden 1 has been sitting on PSN for quite some time. It's not a licensing issue or THAT game wouldn't be there.
The likely reason Suikoden 2 (english) hasn't seen a re-release is because THAT game was notoriously riddled with bugs and translation errors, and Konami either does not want to or doesn't have the ability to fix the game to SCEA's standards.
Xenogears has a game glitching bug with one of the moves by a boss. At least on ps2 consoles. Gonna disagree with you.
Thats still the hurdle though. Sony requires that all PSone Classic re-releases be completely unaltered. Developers can't even fix typos or mistranslations, if they do I has to be significant enough to be a remaster. And if you read post #19, you would have your answer, unless of coure YOU are breaking NDA....
Manmademan
Member
One obscure bug is one thing, and PS2 to PSX errors can be an issue with the emulation.
Suikoden 2 has a LOT of these translation and sound errors. It's not just one, they're not obscure, and it's a certainty that SCEA is aware of the state that game is in.
Suikoden 2 WAS remastered for PSP, but SCEA rejected it. No one really knows the reason, but I'm willing to bet "same busted translation" has something to do with it.
We had an example of how certain things can be an issue now that weren't for whatever reason.
Sony just needs to waive that requirement at this point, most of what can come out as-is has, at least require an explanation for changes or whatever when submitted if they want to be that anal and note that there may be differences on the PSN store front.
And Sony have been a pain in the ass about "new content" for NA releases while not caring in Japan, it was one if their most frustrating traits and hopefully they're over that now.
Wasn't it something with them at the time requiring new/additional content? IIRC the PSP version of Suikoden 1 + 2 just added the widescreen.
I would LOVE to know what on earth kind of licensing or translation contract could exist that would prevent Suikoden 2 from being listed, since that makes no sense for a ton of reasons. It would have to be something completely out of left-field.
SCEA rejected Suikoden I&II because they didn't want 2D ports on the PSP at the time.
AuthenticM
Member
because konami
Manmademan
Member
then explain valkyrie profile: lenneth.
graywolf323
Member
also known as the worse years of SCEA
masterlobo
Banned
The stipulations for PSone Classics are that they have to be submitted as is.
Breath of Fire III got around that by re-release on PSP and changing some things like:
Stallion's sprite being recolored
Because they could have been sued by the creators of:
Where was the Black Stallion? On PSP?
SCEA are idiots because this action affected us European players as well.
Little wonder some of us were so down on them years back. Absolutely frustrating when they get the niche game support only for the NA branch to go "nope" to releasing for stupid reasons that don't even involve potential controversies.
Aretak
Member
It ran absolutely perfectly on the PSP when I tried it years ago. Made a customised EBOOT for it with an XMB video, music and everything which was pretty cool.
SCEA's problem wasn't with the games being 2D, but rather them being straight ports. They wanted additional content, which is why the Megaman Legends PSP ports also got blocked.
graywolf323
Member
it is odd that SCEU allowed Breath of Fire III and Tales of Eternia yet Suikoden I & II didn't get released
then again maybe Capcom and Namco thought it was worth it and well Konami is dumb
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Manmademan
Member
So again we're back to "Konami is too lazy to make marginal improvements to re-release the game."
Valkyrie profile re-recorded some cutscenes. Breath of fire recolored a dude. Konami can't be bothered.
Good question. That's a damn good game. maybe some issues with the emulation? That was one of the only 480p games on the system- maybe it pulled some unorthodox tricks to get there.