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Wii emulator can do 720p HD
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DeathbyVolcano
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gotcha. I just saw "wii 720p" and just jumped on the screens. Again, didn't really read anything else.
fizzelopeguss
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Man it's a god damn shame the wii doesn't have more horsepower to put out HD+decent image quality, most of these gamecube games look fantastic in HD, far better than half the "next gen" shit released these days.
BrandNew said:
Running games in a higher resolution requires extra processing power. In fact, increasing resolution is one of the the most "expensive" things you can do to improve graphics. It's likely that the Wii simply couldn't render games like Galaxy at 720p.
Throwaway123456789
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Can the Wii output a HD signal at all?
The 60fps counter means the emulator is running at 60hz (which means the same speed as a NTSC system), not the game itself.brain_stew said:
No, it cannot. Tech docs and all. Maximum output resolution is 720x576 (PAL) or 720x480 (NTSC), but maximum renderable resolution is 640x576 (not sure about the height, it's been a while, but I'm sure it was higher than 480, but width could never go past 640), which can be horizontally scaled to 720.stuburns said:
After your little show on this thread you should refrain from making such affirmative claims on technical subjects.
SFA is very much a screenshot game to me. The fur textures and water effects at the time were incredible and the cutscenes hold up very well, but in-game, I just think the game looks a mess. It's very Rare, in that its an odd smorgasbord of then-next-gen effects with strange archaic architecture, bad optimization, and some really unsightly textures.AzureJericho said:
But, regardless, when you say aesthetics, I think of the art-direction as well, and SFA seemed like an original IP with Star Fox copy-pasted on (because it was). The art direction just wasn't there for me, and, except for turning some of GAF into furry-lovers, it achieved very little that hadn't been done to death in other Rare titles. There are two similar games on GC I can name with what I believe to be much better aesthetics: Wind Waker and Beyond Good & Evil.
It's all opinion though. SFA was impressive technically when it arrived on the scene, but its art and overall visual style was always off=putting to me.
Their HD videos are listed as 720p, though I'm not an insider so I can't download them.M3d10n said:
I've been reading up, and it seems HD isn't anything like a fixed factual standard. 720p/1080i/p are generally considered HD, but it's an old term and it's applied to all sorts of resolutions.
Mr. Pointy
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I remember making a thread about how Capcom should port REmake and RE0 onto the HD consoles and everyone was like noooooo. Well, they were all wrong.EmCeeGramr said:
Mr. Pointy
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Just disc images. Though if you have a modified version of a very specific Hitachi/LG DVD drive, it'll read off of the disc.dark10x said:
Mr. Pointy
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^
Same format as a Wii disc.
Same format as a Wii disc.
rollingstart
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fizzelopeguss said:
You should see PS2 games done this way. FFXII is really damn incredible looking and would be the best if not for Wind Waker.
http://i43.tinypic.com/eqqptu.jpg
that's one of Kingdom Hearts 2. So many of these PS2/Gamecube games look so good but can't fully be seen because of console limitations.
nincompoop
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Come on now, you really think thispakkit said:
looks better than this?
SMMFH
Not to mention BG&E runs at around 20fps (at least on PS2, haven't played it on GC) while SFA is a super smooth 60. And also not to mention that BG&E works better as a cure for insomnia than as a video game, but that's another subject altogether.
EatChildren
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Linkzg said:
I long for the day that Rogue Squadron 3 starts working, if it ever happens. Maxed out AA and AF running at 1080p. Guarghg. I MUST SEE IT NOW.
BlazeHedgehog
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nincompoop said:Come on now, you really think this
looks better than this?
SMMFH
Not to mention BG&E runs at around 20fps (at least on PS2, haven't played it on GC) while SFA is a super smooth 60. And also not to mention that BG&E works better as a cure for insomnia than as a video game, but that's another subject altogether.
You had to pick the single worst Beyond Good & Evil screenshot, didn't you?
nincompoop said:Come on now, you really think this
looks better than this?
SMMFH
Not to mention BG&E runs at around 20fps (at least on PS2, haven't played it on GC) while SFA is a super smooth 60. And also not to mention that BG&E works better as a cure for insomnia than as a video game, but that's another subject altogether.
Oh FUCK ME. I am buying Beyond Good & Evil RIGHT NOW.
(Does it work on vista?)
Edit: I read the BGE as being better than SFA. You made me buy that game with a screenshot meant to be bad? :lol
Technically speaking, Starfox Adventures kicks the shit out of BG&E. That engine was a total mess on all platforms. However, I MUCH prefer the art direction in BG&E.
SFA is a very technically impressive Cube title (much more impressive than the vast majority of Wii games).
SFA is a very technically impressive Cube title (much more impressive than the vast majority of Wii games).
rollingstart
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dark10x said:
A Michel Ancel game having better art direction than a Rare game? get out of town!
SFA did look pretty great, though. I remember my friend being obsessed with fur shading in that game. And yeah, Wii games are largely worse looking than Gamecube games since the majority try to pull off visuals similar to what's current with the big three (PC, PS3 and 360) instead of doing what looks good. There are a few exceptions here or there (Super Mario Galaxy) but largely you see devs either go super simple or try and do as detailed as they can. I'd rather them try and experiment more with different styles that better suit the Wii.
CurseoftheGods
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nincompoop said:
BlazeHedgehog
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dark10x said:
That's Rare, for you. Their art direction has never been spectacular but they're one of the most technically competent developers out there. They've been getting better about art direction, though (Viva Pinata, etc.)
But yeah. BG&E may not be quite as technically impressive but it kicks the shit out of Starfox Adventures in just about every other graphical department.
Not only does it look nice, but it's one of the rare GC titles that does 480p/16:9 at 60 fps with all kinds of crazy shader effects (in addition to the fur they have some really nice looking grass throughout the game that gives basic surfaces some real depth).Xabora said:I'm now tempted to pickup Starfox Adventures on Amazon to see how good it looks.
And to play it too since I never did.
It's kind of a boring game, however. It is perfect competent, I suppose, but it never really becomes all that fun. I suppose you could do worse and it is better than a lot of Wii offerings.
Hero of Legend
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Man Nintendo really needs to make a NPC version of SFA.
All they need to do with the game is add a way to reexplore the planet as you were stuck fighting the final boss forever unless you don't save upto that point or start a new file. :/
That made me sell the game after I beat it.
But today I'd buy it again regardless, but I'd much rather play a Wii-enhanced version.
Question is, who would do the port? MS won't allow Rare to do it. Perhaps Nintendo can just have an internal team at HQ do it? Wonder if they could use Rare's new logo in the game?
Even though I prefer the old one.
All they need to do with the game is add a way to reexplore the planet as you were stuck fighting the final boss forever unless you don't save upto that point or start a new file. :/
That made me sell the game after I beat it.
But today I'd buy it again regardless, but I'd much rather play a Wii-enhanced version.
Question is, who would do the port? MS won't allow Rare to do it. Perhaps Nintendo can just have an internal team at HQ do it? Wonder if they could use Rare's new logo in the game?
Even though I prefer the old one.
nincompoop
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What exactly do people find appealing about BG+E's art? Is it the generic main character and enemies? The goofy looking anthropomorphic pig? Or the incredibly bland enviornments? SFA may not win many points for originality but every single aspect of its visuals completely trounces BG&E.
Generic main characters? I disagree completely. The environments are also quite lovely to behold. It's a unique looking game.nincompoop said:
The game itself is also a lot better than SFA could ever hope to be and has an amazing soundtrack to go along with it.
CamHostage
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(BG&E? SFA? What happened to this thread?)
This Wii emulator looks incredibly nice. I've been content just hanging out at a friend's house and playing the few Wii games I've liked rather than buying the console, but if it were just a matter of buying the remote and I've have a serviceable Wii platform to buy games for, I'd be happy.
The PS2 emulator also looks rocking from the screenshots. I've never bothered to do it before because my PC has a video-out but with these two consoles being emulated to HD almost better than the real thing (and with none of the consoles still really doing all I want as media players), I think I'd like to build a Linux Box for my entertainment stand. If I could have a little box like this tossed in my rack that could toss on PCSX2 and this Wii emu and MPlayer, then have a quick remote-controllable interface, that would be a dream.
Does anybody have any experience with a good case that has room to stick in hardware but that dissipates heat well and would look nice in a rack? And any recommendations on a Linux release that's fast-loading and easy to navigate? I'll do more research for myself, but I thought maybe if people had some suggestions, that'd be a better use of this thread than debating the fun factor of a Rare game from 2002.
This Wii emulator looks incredibly nice. I've been content just hanging out at a friend's house and playing the few Wii games I've liked rather than buying the console, but if it were just a matter of buying the remote and I've have a serviceable Wii platform to buy games for, I'd be happy.
The PS2 emulator also looks rocking from the screenshots. I've never bothered to do it before because my PC has a video-out but with these two consoles being emulated to HD almost better than the real thing (and with none of the consoles still really doing all I want as media players), I think I'd like to build a Linux Box for my entertainment stand. If I could have a little box like this tossed in my rack that could toss on PCSX2 and this Wii emu and MPlayer, then have a quick remote-controllable interface, that would be a dream.
Does anybody have any experience with a good case that has room to stick in hardware but that dissipates heat well and would look nice in a rack? And any recommendations on a Linux release that's fast-loading and easy to navigate? I'll do more research for myself, but I thought maybe if people had some suggestions, that'd be a better use of this thread than debating the fun factor of a Rare game from 2002.