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Wii U has sold 3 million in Japan
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Prevolition
Member
All console makers need to rethink how to do well in Japan.
True, but Nintendo needs to learn how to do well in the other countries that do care about console gaming. If I remember correctly Japan is their second biggest market with 3 million...
Situation is a bit different for nintendo since Xbone and PS4 have other markets to fall back to. Especially for Sony, euro/asian market is basically theirs.
Nintendo? Not so much.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191457254&postcount=252
PS4 by years (approx):
970k
1330k
WiiU by years (approx):
627k
898k
618k
877k
Simbabbad
Member
My point is, it's not bombing at all in context, or they are all bombing, so presenting it as a failure in Japan is weird, especially when you compare the horsepower, third party support, production cost etc. of each console. I edited my post to clarify. Relatively to the Japanese market, the console is actually doing pretty well, and Wii U hardware brings much more money to its company than PS4.
Worldwide, I don't think anybody would contest it's a failure, but it's not the subject here.
Anyway, I'm so glad Splatoon was such a success. I hope it'll encourage more new series.
Poimandres
Member
I definitely wouldn't say the Wii U has bombed in Japan. Its sales are quite reasonable. Not sure about the hardware bringing more money than PS4, but Nintendo software sure as hell makes bank.
Ultimately, Splatoon is probably going to be the best thing that comes from the Wii U's legacy because it's a great foundation and could go on to be one of Nintendo's biggest series. Creating a new IP that can hang with Mario, Kart, Smash et al is no mean feat!
John Wick
Member
It's sold 2 million+ in Japan with 1 year less on sale and without any real decent Japanese games. This year things will change as more Japanese games are released and PS4 will surpass Wii U
To compete with PlayStation, Nintendo needs another Wii and DS level of sucess, NX might be their chance
It's like people are waiting for this kind of news to say all they have to say about the Wii U. Yeah, it's a failure for our countries, no problem, it's a loss for Nintendo. Nobody really doubted it... I think.
But in Japan ? It's actually not that bad. Oh, i wouldn't call it a "success" but it's interesting to see there is not a big difference between PS4 and Wii U there.
But in Japan ? It's actually not that bad. Oh, i wouldn't call it a "success" but it's interesting to see there is not a big difference between PS4 and Wii U there.
In France, back in June, Wii U was 590,000, and Mario Kart 500,000.
So, 85% attach rate back in June. That's insane, now i believe is lower than This.
Your saying Splatoon is even bigger than Dragon Quest!? Ok..
7,210
22,898 <- DQX
11,137
6,428
7,611
17,713 <- Splatoon
21,169
16,413
14,616
13,166
12,781
10,780
I'm gonna guess that FFXV and DQXI will have a little bit more of an impact.
J
Jpop
Unconfirmed Member
DQXI will sell the majority on the 3DS.
The thing is the Wii U is selling bad, the PS4 is selling a little less worse. In the long run both are selling awful and the console market is dead in Japan.
In a few years people will be like wow the Wii U didn't outsell the GameCube and wow the PS4 barely outsold the GameCube.
In an instance like this I think it is best to look at which system pushes software more as the difference in hardware sales will be negligible.
LOL
Yes, it is, and not only, it will most likely Sell almost double than Dragon Quest on PS4.
Are there people really saying there will literally be nothing this year that could rival or beat splatoon in the sales department on PS4? That is a ridiculous statement i think considering the pure amount of things on offer, no matter how consoles are doing in Japan. Why would splatoon be an outlier to everything else?
Haunted
Member
I'd love to see PS2 and Wii graphs alongside those.
That's just not right.
Nintendo's marketing department fucked up big time but yeah, it isn't. As someone who mainly plays PC, it's the only eight generation console that really makes sense in my eyes.
I've actually never sat down and thought about it that way. I thought it'd make a huge splash on PS4, but considering the userbase and the declining home console sales. . . DQXI would realistically sell gangbusters on 3DS. Mind blown.
Dragon Quest Heroes PS3 and PS4 combined has sold in excess of a million copies, and the split between them was surprisingly close. 3DS is definitely going to sell more, but PS4 DQ11 will definitely sell very well considering the fall off of the PS3.
Really? Come spitting snark with a high and mighty attitude then whine about getting called out on it?
Silphonica
Banned
i hope the best zelda ever comes out on wii u only.
I don't see the point in arguing Wii U vs PS4 when both are selling like crap and will finish with poor numbers.
Well the only games that have a chance are DQXI and FFXV and just how big an effect that games will have on the PS4 are kinda up in the air so its not all that crazy of an argument.
Well the only games that have a chance are DQXI and FFXV and just how big an effect that games will have on the PS4 are kinda up in the air so its not all that crazy of an argument.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
DQXI on PS4 will sell more than Splatoon, I doubt anyone doubts that.
Exactly my reaction, haha
I doubt that.
DQXI will sell more than Splatoon for sure but with the shift to handheld I think it is not unreasonable to assume it will sell more copies on the 3DS than the PS4.
I'm thinking in the end (depending on when the NX is released) Splatoon will end up with over 1.5 million sold. It's over 1.2mil now and stays in the top 5 selling games almost every week.
During the entire run of the PS3 (when consoles were doing better) only one game (FFXIII) sold more than 1.5mil. Since FFXV is console only I think that one might actually have a better chance of outselling Splatoon.
The best selling console Dragon Quest game (VIII) sold a bit over 3.5mil on the software beast, the PS2. It was the best selling game on the system. The second best selling PS2 game was FFX and even that only sold 2.3mil.
I really don't know if the console version of the game can get past 1.5 on the PS4 alone. The best selling DQ game was XI (4.15mil) and that was on the DS.
Could it happen? Sure. But to say no one could doubt it will happen is maybe not accurate.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I do not understand these posts lol
DQXI is on the 3DS, which will stiffle the PS4's sales potential (consumer base of >20m vs. ~3m by then). High chance it will have a sales ratio of like ~3-4:1. (For reference on this affect, see Smash 3DS:WiiU, which opened 944.644:227.527. DQ usually sells around 4 milliom, so a similar affect will give you 3.2m:0.8m. Just some ballpark numbers.)
FFXV has brand decay to fight from FXIII+.
Nothing else will even have a chance, most "big" other stuff won't even reach half of Splatoon's sales. (Also to match Splatoon, these upcoming titles will need 40%+ adoption rates, which is absurd. Its absurd that Splatoon has managed it.)
Earthpainting
Member
At least they reached that milestone. Earlier 2015, I wouldn't even have assumed it could have reached 3 mil in Japan in total. Splatoon deserves some props for seemingly carrying the system for as long as it did.
Also yes, the PS4 will most likely pass WiiU's sales in 2016. Even if it doesn't it, it definitely will in 2017. Future software will dry up even further for WiiU, while the PS4's will continue for several more years, regardless of the Japanese market.
Also yes, the PS4 will most likely pass WiiU's sales in 2016. Even if it doesn't it, it definitely will in 2017. Future software will dry up even further for WiiU, while the PS4's will continue for several more years, regardless of the Japanese market.
I don't disagree with most of what you said, but I think FFXV still has a shot. It's been a while since its last main singleplayer entry, and I believe FF13 was the only PS3 million seller of last gen. A decent marketing push can probably overcome brand decay.
Splatoon is >1.32m, not 1.2m. And no, there is no way at this point for sell only 1.5m lifetime.
If we say that Splatoon will sell nothing in 2017, and that's impossible even with NX in the holidays 2016, it need to sell only less than ~3.5k all week of 2016, and it has never sold under 10k.
1.5million is just impossible.
Oh I know that's why I said over 1.5mil and that right now it is over 1.2 (with digital). The main point I was trying to make is that even in a worst case scenario, 1.5mil would be a high bar for any PS4 game to cross.
My bad then, i didn't understand.
A LOT more... Almost double.
lensoftruth
Member
By that logic Sony must think the PS4 is a failure on it's home turf too then.
Well it kinda is. The difference though is that Playstation is leading pretty much everywhere else. Hence you see the different approach Sony has been doing, focusing on multi regions as opposed to Nintendo still enforging region locking.
However you spin it, 3 million in Japan is pittance in regards to all the consoles.
Pennywise83
Banned
A million? Not in Japan.
Splatoon will likely land around 1.5m units. Best selling PS3 game is at 1.9m units (FFXIII). PS4 will have to work hard to have a game beating Splatoon' sales.
That's Japan and Asia though and I would assume everyone in this thread is talking exclusively about the Japanese market?
Pennywise83
Banned
A million was reached in Asia. In Japan, the game shipped around 850k units.
By it's first year on the market(May 2016), Splatoon should be well beyond 1.5 million. I don't think any sequel has a chance to overtake it on the console space - it has to be some unknown quantity similar to Splatoon that shifts the needle and converts some mobile/handheld users to a console.
Fennec
Member
Here in France, during several months, the WiiU premium pack bundled with MK8 was the only way to buy a WiiU! Other premium packs were scarcely available, basic WiiU pack as well.