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Wii U has sold 3 million in Japan
- Thread starter Ryng_tolu
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Now i wonder if you are paying attention to the Japanese sales.
Manny Calavera
Member
That's just not right.
You said it.
Raist, and about the graph. I quoted you to note that you picked holiday data as non-holiday data. The 70k (this week) is the peak of PS family sales (post new year bump).
PdotMichael
Banned
Looking at the fact that the PS4 is ahead of the WiiU launch alligned. There is no reason to believe that the PS4 suddenly stops selling when more games from Japanese developers arrive.
Just like Mario Kart and Smash were going to save the Wii U. DQ and FF will provide a bump, but they're hardly going to be saviors for the overall console industry. If it was healthy the PS4 should've been blowing the Wii U away since launch, especially since the Wii U had several months without a single retail release. But no, it only recently beat it launch-aligned. Everywhere else it's lapped the Wii U easily. It might take another year for the PS4 to outsell it here. Not a good sign at all.
Didn't realize it had been trending up, I've not been watching Media Create threads recently.
Thanks for the tip.
What's significant is that many of the western games cross 100,000 these days on PS4, while PS3 has dried up in regards to most sales metrics software and hardware based. That bodes well for the actual Japanese titles that are going to come out this year.
The core market has moved onto PS4, i would not be suprised to see PS3 support dry up for a majority of games this year, supplanted by PS4 and Vita cross games.
Infact its already happening.
I follow the Japanese sales on Esuteru, so yeah, i do check in on them. I don't follow media create threads though.
It was 70k for one week, and only barely and on only one tracker.
Lol, the Vita was released a year earlier.
A majority of this year has Wii U at sub 10,000 with PS4 at or around 20,000 weekly, that's not insignificant for a weekly sales basis.
I don't think anyone thinks these games are going to 'save' consoles, but we've had to get used to lowered expectations. As long as there is a decent sales base of the core gaming market buying the major titles, its not a failure even if the HW is lower overall.
If the major releases this year sell 200k to 300k in general, that's not a failure, that's a viable success
deltatheta
Member
Forgive my ignorance, but I thought that the holidays wouldn't be a factor in Japan, since Christmas isn't so much a thing there. Do they have a different gift-exchanging end of year tradition?
Then the misstep in my statement implying 'every week' was a mistake, i apologize.
But in general, PS4 sales are higher than the Wii U. Its only been since about November that the sales of Wii U have occasionally surpassed the PS4. That happens when games like splatoon show up that are hits.
I expect atleast a few of the major Japanese games coming out for PS4 this year to have the same effect on a bigger scale
You use "every week" quite loosely though, because it has only sold 70k for one week, lol.
Kresnik258
Member
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191439749&postcount=73
Seriously, he keeps posting it and people keep ignoring it
illmatic22
Banned
It is.
meh..PS4 in Japan is even less than Wii U..
VendettaRed07
Member
The Sega Saturn sold 5m in Japan if I remember correctly
Ouch Nintendo
Ouch Nintendo
Jawbreaker
Member
About as well as you'd expect a home console do do with the state of the Japanese market right now. I'm curious to see what sort of an impact Sony's 2016 lineup will have on PS4 sales. This is the year where the console will finally look attractive to that segment.
Launch aligned, PS4 is ahead.
Launch aligned, PS4 is ahead.
You really think 3 million units lifetime in a region is a success?
Poimandres
Member
Are people predicting PS4 to overtake Wii U number in 2016 in Japan?
Do you know that Japan favors handhelds more than consoles?
Hasn't been true since May.
They normally provide healthy boosts to all consoles as gifts/money are given. The holidays proper around Christmas are usually when Nintendo upticks (starting early December), and then New Year is when Sony upticks over Nintendo (this week). They still celebrate and gifts are often gotten for children at this time.
Its not usually some profound, earth shattering performance like in the NPD threads.
I don't see much of anything replicating Splatoon's successes for various reasons, the easiest of which is that Splatoon isn't alone in having gone viral (its just the most obvious). There's two pieces of software that working hand-in-hand to reel the WiiU from the depths before Nintendo dunks it back down with the NX announcements.
PdotMichael
Banned
Sorta OK-ish.
You just need to consider the trends.
It took the WiiU roughly twice as long to get its 2nd million compared to the first, and sales are more or less flat. Likely to go down soon if NX indeed releases this year.
The PS4 got its second million just a bit faster than the first, and with some significant more japan-friendly big titles releasing soon, it may still pick up some speed.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Yes.
You can not compare the Japanese home console market in the mid-nineties to what it is today. And I'd say neither Saturn nor Wii U were doing badly at all in Japan, in comparison to what they did in the rest of the world. But unlike Saturn (vs. PS1), Wii U sales aren't totally dwarfed by any rival system in Japan. That market as a whole is weak for home consoles.
SuperBlank
Member
Wow.
Splatoon had a helluvan attach rate.
Can't wait til we're sick of Nintendo shoving that series down our throats.
Splatoon had a helluvan attach rate.
Can't wait til we're sick of Nintendo shoving that series down our throats.
well there are a couple of games that could push some hardware (ff15, maybe persona 5?), until now japanese people don't have many reason to get a ps4, everything is ps3 multiplatform.
and it looks like japanese market is at the lowest point in 26 years
Acerac
Banned
I thought that Splatoon was helping Wii U sell at a fairly steady rate; I hadn't heard about it dropping off this year at all. No doubt, the PS4 will eventually outsell the Wii U in Japan, but the rate at which it's accomplishing this feat isn't exactly rapid.
Granted, it is an absolute slaughter elsewhere.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Wii U (3 years to sell 3 million)
Ps4 (1.9 years to 2.3 million)
PS4 is better but nothing to hype up it have 3mill maybe 6 months before Wii U did, meh.
Ps4 (1.9 years to 2.3 million)
PS4 is better but nothing to hype up it have 3mill maybe 6 months before Wii U did, meh.
The game of the date PS4 outsells Wii U keeps pushed back and back and is completely pointless but for those who want to pay this game:
WiiU is 750k units ahead. PS4 sold 150k units more in 2015 since Splatoon's launch in May 28.
The chances are good?
NHarmonic.
Member
this is too cruel.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Glad to see you on duty soldier.
This so much, its weird when you go into those threads.
PdotMichael
Banned
Yes, Splatoon will carry the WiiU over the entire year and none of the games released on the Playstation 4 will have anykind of effect on the sales.
The Saturn was Segas most successful console ever in Japan
JigglesBunny
Banned
Ho-ho-holy shit, those are some poor lifetime stats.
Poor Wii U, the little console that couldn't.
Poor Wii U, the little console that couldn't.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
There's not a single game announced for PS4 that could have the same effect as Splatoon and surely not on a "bigger scale". PS4 already had some big games and it helped it sales grow in 2015 launch aligned a bit above Wii U, at least before last december but this holiday has been big for Wii U.
Nonetheless all current consoles have disappointing low sales in Japan. Vita has decent sales. 3DS sales are good.
TheLastCandle
Member
As opposed to all the completely normal behavior in all the other sales threads.
protomouse
Member
ITT: You can tell who's never been to a Media Create thread. PS4 is behind the Wii U launch aligned. Mobile and handheld devices rule Japan. Wii U has done well given the circumstances.
DriftingSpirit
Member
What does it matter if PS4 passes Wii U this year or next? It will be happening either way.
As such, I would recommend those who are not knowledgeable of the affairs in those threads to stay out of them. Heed my warning.
Never mind the bulk of the major Japanese support still having yet to hit PS4.
All these people mad that I made the comparison, but I'm just pointing out what's considered newsworthy for each console.
Looks like that whole column of Last Year to Date numbers are busted. Does anyone have the actual numbers? That 3 million Wii U number doesnt seem good at all and I'd also like to know if the traditional games industry in japan will be reversing the lowest in 24 years revenue mark it hit last year.
