herzogzwei1989
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Zoramon089 said:
Sorry I did not know there was any confirmation on that. Not to be rude or anything, but can you please provide a source? I'm very very curious and interested. Thanks!
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Wii U Nature Graphics Demo (Extended video + better looking segments in thread)
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Sorry I did not know there was any confirmation on that. Not to be rude or anything, but can you please provide a source? I'm very very curious and interested. Thanks!
Zoramon089
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Well in every video you can move the camera which is only possible if it's rendered in real time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OHUwDShrD4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OHUwDShrD4
les papillons sexuels
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very unimpressed by everything in the video, especially the art direction of it. Honestly, you've got some great artists at nintendo yet the video showed next to nothing interesting, take a couple moments to show off highlights of what the tech can render. At least throw in a nice skybox or something to give off a sence of actual depth instead of this giant arena which is what it looks like.
If we're putting money on who did the demo, I'm guessing it's futuremark, reminds me a lot of this one.
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/nintendo-3ds-gpu-tech-demo
except not nearly as polished or impressive.
If we're putting money on who did the demo, I'm guessing it's futuremark, reminds me a lot of this one.
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/nintendo-3ds-gpu-tech-demo
except not nearly as polished or impressive.
OG_Original Gamer
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Lonely1 said:
Ram is always going to be an issue for devs, I doubt they'll get four gigs. Most devs would love to be creating games on consoles with server size amounts of memory.
les papillons sexuels
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Oh, if we're going to talk about tech demo's with impressive stuff renderd in real time, why haven't we brought up the cinema 2.0 stuff?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2fS9covXBs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fzkHGch12c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EJKifq6JM (start at around the 3:50 mark)
"real-time" with camera controlled interaction.
People talking about "better than PC" need to understand that we've barely scratched the surface on what's possible on PC because of consoles holding them back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2fS9covXBs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fzkHGch12c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EJKifq6JM (start at around the 3:50 mark)
"real-time" with camera controlled interaction.
People talking about "better than PC" need to understand that we've barely scratched the surface on what's possible on PC because of consoles holding them back.
Agent X
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This is the first I've seen of the demo (as I haven't watched Nintendo's conference yet). Very nice!
Is it far beyond the PS3 or Xbox 360? Tough to say for now (especially as this video was a bit grainy), but at the very least I'd say it rivals the high end of what we've seen on those systems. I'm sure things will get even better with another year or more to go before the system is released.
Is it far beyond the PS3 or Xbox 360? Tough to say for now (especially as this video was a bit grainy), but at the very least I'd say it rivals the high end of what we've seen on those systems. I'm sure things will get even better with another year or more to go before the system is released.
Agent X said:
Anybody coming with this far more argument needs to study up on gpus and architecures and realize short of these companies spending massive money it's not happening again. The upgrades you see now will be more like what pc users get over 360/PS3 not only that we will barely see the difference unless devs spend time making ports and multiplatforms to have an advantage in graphics.
Until next generation when DX11 becomes standard what is not being used in power with pcs or with WiiU won't be seen.
Agent X said:
Anybody coming with this far more argument needs to study up on gpus and architecures and realize short of these companies spending massive money it's not happening again. The upgrades you see now will be more like what pc users get over 360/PS3 not only that we will barely see the difference unless devs spend time making ports and multiplatforms to have an advantage in graphics.
Until next generation when DX11 becomes standard what is not being used in power with pcs or with WiiU won't be seen.
Sammy Samusu
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Still waiting for that city demo.
I see what you did there GIFLCGeek said:
herzogzwei1989
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Just for fun, here is the 'Garden & Butterfly' tech demo for the original Xbox from GDC 2000. It was running on not-final Xbox hardware.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL7afLTEssc
Sorry it's very low-res, the only video I could find on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL7afLTEssc
Sorry it's very low-res, the only video I could find on it.
herzogzwei1989
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mr_nothin said:
LOL.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The fact that Reggie gave a "tell" that this was not internally made by Nintendo, really destroyed my enthusiasm..
My main problem with the controller is lack of proper analog sticks. I can't imagine aiming with those circle pads. This is especially bad considering that the Wii remote's best feature was its accurate IR aiming.AceBandage said:
Does anyone know why Nintendo went with circle pads instead of analog sticks this time?
Disorientator
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Oblivion said:
You are joking right?
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Surely Xbox games went on to render much more than a square room with a few objects in, even if at slightly lower quality? The only still somewhat impressive thing there is that the butterflies had shadows, though I doubt all of them did, probably only those very close to the camera.herzogzwei1989 said:
game.watch.impress.co.jp has a page about the WiiU, it's all in Japanese so I don't know if there are any new info, hope someone can translate it.
They mention WHDI as a possible wireless interface for the WiiU Controller, but I doubt that since the controller screen is not in HD.
They also have pics of the back of the WiiU console unit hooked up to the TV, so I guess they have working prototype hardware.
The article:
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/series/3dcg/20110610_451799.html
Further they have the WiiU nature demo direct feed. Too bad the video is not in HD resolution and is quite lowbitrate (maybe someone can upload it to youtube):
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/video/gmw/docs/451/799/html/n001.flv.html
They mention WHDI as a possible wireless interface for the WiiU Controller, but I doubt that since the controller screen is not in HD.
They also have pics of the back of the WiiU console unit hooked up to the TV, so I guess they have working prototype hardware.
The article:
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/series/3dcg/20110610_451799.html
Further they have the WiiU nature demo direct feed. Too bad the video is not in HD resolution and is quite lowbitrate (maybe someone can upload it to youtube):
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/video/gmw/docs/451/799/html/n001.flv.html
Father_Brain
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c_k_i_t3 said:
That is definitely not 60fps.
Ashler
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Image of Tecmo Koei's E3 2011 Booth, taken from Giantbomb's E3 day 1 footage (@ 19:40):
Nintendo's Nature trailer:
Just a wild shot but... The art throughout the Nintendo nature trailer kinda fits.
Believe!
Nintendo's Nature trailer:
Just a wild shot but... The art throughout the Nintendo nature trailer kinda fits.
Believe!
Houston3000
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Is there any doubt that the system isn't stronger than the 360/PS3?
I was under the impression that it was undoubtedly more powerful, at least on par with some of today mid-range gaming PCs.
I was under the impression that it was undoubtedly more powerful, at least on par with some of today mid-range gaming PCs.
Jim E. Rossler
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Thought I'd attempt some rough estimates of the dimensions. I measured the Wii usb ports myself, and for the length I measured the portion of the IR cable and assumed it was the same one on the WII U
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Jim E. Rossler
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WELPIndyana said:
My length and height were kinda accurate, not so much with the width
CoffeeJanitor
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slopeslider said:
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Good job.slopeslider said:Thought I'd attempt some rough estimates of the dimensions. I measured the Wii usb ports myself, and for the length I measured the portion of the IR cable and assumed it was the same one on the WII U
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Hadn't seen the back of the wiiiu... Looks fairly huge when compared to wii. Got to believe that final design will be considerably more compact. Also, I wonder if the look is not a stopgap. As is, it doesn't have much personality.
AceBandage
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Gahiggidy said:
Neither does the Wii. Or the 360, for that matter.
Zoramon089
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Gahiggidy said:
Given the hardware I don't see why they'd make it more compact
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
I disagree. Those shaved angles on the box and stand plus the blue disc light gave it a very Japanese vibe, IMO.AceBandage said:
I won't comment on the design of the Microsoft Xbox 360.
jim-jam bongs
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Fixedagrajag said:
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
I'm going to stop you right there. Nintendo used to LOVE taking specs prior to Wii. I remember well how for the GameCube launch they were very proud of their new kit and would openly discuss all the details of the hardware... even going so far as to setup interviews with technical journals for the engineers who worked on "dolphin". Between thier full unvieiling at E3-01 and the GameCube launch they tried very hard to hype the abilities of the console... but you know what happened? Again and again news stories covering the GameCube and Xbox launches claimed that that the Cube was far inferior to the PS2 and Xbox because of the meaningless spec that Cube could only do a tenth of the polygons per second(w/o effects!) as the other boxes. Not to mention the absurd idea that not being able to play DVD movies was a sign of less hardware power.Daschysta said:
I think Nintendo knows now that they can't win a spec war with Sony. The moment Nintendo releases detailed specs on WiiU Sony will schedule a press event where they will wow reporters with their new research. From then on reporters will have a talking point on how though WiiU is powerful, it's numbers pale in comparison to whatever heck the PS4 is supposedly going to do.
Now that's interesting. The thermal design seems to be quite similar to that of the Wii at a glance, with a slightly larger air outlet at the back, but more and larger air intakes. Also, whereas the Wii had the outlet centered, in this case it's off center. I would guess that the system uses a closed cooling system (big intake on the right side plus small intake on top -> outlet on the back) for the CPU and GPU in addition to an open cooling system for passively cooled components. So, while the case appears very similar in size, it looks like it's designed for more and/ or bigger components (more space for CPU, GPU, RAM), a much bigger airflow and therefore, a much higher cooling capability.