ethomaz
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It is because part of the users thinks it will be the savior... the second coming... the last hope.
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Windows Central on US December NPD: PS4 sold 1,568,000 (238K Pro), XB1 sold 1,511,000
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Jaguar Victory
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There's always the Bish gifs thread for posterity. Always good for a laugh.
gundamkyoukai
Member
The Pro is a way for Sony to make extra money on hardware from there hardcore fans \ keep people in there ecosystem .
It must be near or over million WW and out of stock in many places .
They mostly likely also making profit off all them so it's seem to be doing it's job .
He was awesome as one .
Samurai G0SU
Member
Only the brave, hope..
Lol! Come on maaaannnn itll come down from the skies. Dip into the ocean. Rise like a jaeger and take us to the promise land of Native 4k.
Lmao. Queur monk chant music with MC floating down wearing The Poncho.
Yep I only just realized it a few days ago too when someone brought it up in another thread.
It explains the recent increase in "insiders" lately.
Progress? Didn't Sony sold more in the entire 2016 in the US making the gap bigger even by a small amount?
Is that what you call progress?
I take it some of yall assume that if there was no Pro, Xbox would have won Dec?
Interesting.
hanspampel
Banned
what do you call progress?
you have a race.
1st round you get beaten by 10 seconds
2nd round you get beaten by 7 seconds
3rd round you get beaten by 3 seconds
4th round you get beaten by 1 second
5th round you beat the guy in front of you by 2 seconds
[...]
THAT is the definition of progress or closing the gap
Man I hope no one's paid you to estimate the size of the US console market vs. the world console market.
That's what gives you your "insider information"? Google?
Well for once, being beaten again and selling less than last year worldwide is not my definition of progress, but ok.
Papacheeks
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Why do you think they unveiled it as Project scorpio? Projects can shift and change as they develop, this might have developed into a restart for xbox hence the possibility of treating it like a new console and maybe having exclusive software for it for 2018.
I mean it's not out of the realm of possibilities. Especially after the luke warm reception of PS4 PRO they have time.
I mean what if they had 2 prototypes one with Jaguar CPU and one with a custom Ryzen chip or something from that architecture. They could make it work for 2018. I think they know how much is riding on this if it doesn't succeed it's going to be dark days for xbox until the next system.
So prolonging to 2018 is not out of the realm IMHO.
Good Guy Gone Bad
Member
UHD playback really helped the X1 outsell the PS4 this holiday season, didn't it?
hanspampel
Banned
wait
so when your child is trying to become an athlete. loses a race against a better person and the next try gets beaten by a lesser margin, you don't applaud your child because it does not make progress?
edit: because you clarified and "selling less than last year". well in that case both run a slower time, because of a different turf or other circumstances, but the margin still got smaller.
you are a horrible person
It took a new console launch, two SKUs, for PS4 to barely win lmao.
This thread is a treat to read. Especially that oneman dude, he's been shook.
This analogy only works when the final results aren't cumulative.
In your example, it's still down by 19 seconds overall.
Except, the 5th lap never happened yet, so your guy is still losing ground, 21 seconds behind.
To put this in mathematical terms, if we're graphing the gap in total sales, the gap has always been increasing. The first derivative of the graph of that gap would be the rate that the gap in total sales is increasing by, and that's still completely in the positive range.
The Mad Draklor
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Well... Microsoft offered better deals and spent more money than Sony in advertising (difference > $12 million), so it's really not that surprising.
hanspampel
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yeah sure. never said the person is not behind anymore. but not 50 seconds behind.
and depending on the next 10 laps, that are left, the gap could close even fruther.
if you overtake the other? depends. on the lenght of the race and the seconds you lose, or win every round.
but again the question was, what is the definition of progress and closing the gap.
not what overtaking is, or if that will happen
M8 what is wrong with you, the margin is not smaller, the gap is wider even if they got beaten by less units, you have no skills in math or what?
Just to clarify, the gap is wider in the US and WW.
And calling me a horrible person? ok...
When I discuss this, I'm truly seeking clarification as I keep seeing this sentiment stated over an over.
I thought he was only able to verify whether or not if they were a Sony-related insider due to his previous connections?
One of the reasons that I (maybe mistakenly) always thought this is that in general (obviously again could be incorrect), it seemed most of the people who had the "Bish-Checked" tag had some type of Sony connection, while posters like Stinkles (343i) and Tom Mahler (Moon Studios), and others like Matt, etc who were obviously insiders didn't have his stamp of approval.
Banjo-Kazooie
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onemanasylum really taking this thread to heart lol
Dee Dah Dave
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onemans alt account going ham!
onemanasylum
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Thats' not how it works, what was the excuse the rest of this gen? X1 also had a new sku launch.
hydrophilic attack
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lol
he's a google search consultant
only he accidentally uses bing instead so he's not very good at his job
You get paid to say only the US matters and the rest of the world is non existent? holy crap, good on you m8.
SlipperyFishes
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Lol. There's some bullshittin going on in this thread for sure.
hanspampel
Banned
i could ask you the same question
I did the math.
the gap at the end of June 2016 in the US was 14.5%
the gap at the end of December 2016 in the US is 10.5%
did you ever watched a formula 1 race, or something similar?
that calling you a "horrible person" was a joke. hope you didn't took it to offensive and personal.
thought that your child reference was obviously. why your child is doing something good and doing better and you don't appreciate it, than you're a horrible person
hydrophilic attack
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maybe he consults for microsoft to help them come up with their worldwide strategy
M8, read my post again I said the the difference from last year (2015) to 2016 the gap is wider, you're talking about a semester in order to fit your narrative.
The Mad Draklor
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So that's why the XB1 is struggling outside of the US. It all makes sense now!
RichiRamjag
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I don't get it. You always come to these threads saying it's a treat when it's not highly positive news. Like you're above the behavior you're mocking...
I mean...look at the statement in bold and tell me that it isn't just as sad.
LastMinuteHero
Member
Fucking lmao google as insider information. I thought the rest of the world don't matter malarkey was amusing but this takes the cake.
Exactly the same thing can be said for 3/4 months that Xbox barely outsold the PS4. I don't recall Windows Central touting the meagre margin by which it won 3 of those months.
PS4 is gonna be something else next year..
Wait, do you think the Scorpio will sell gangbusters?
tearsintherain
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Nice to see both consoles competitive, it means Sony has someone always breathing down their necks and games have to really think about being multi-plat which can only help the PC versions as well (imo). There isn't anything good about Sony completely trouncing Microsoft to the point where devs only make games for PS4.
I think this E3 should be very interesting, feels like a time when both companies are going to lay out their vision for the next 4 years.
I think this E3 should be very interesting, feels like a time when both companies are going to lay out their vision for the next 4 years.
The Mad Draklor
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It's not just that, but he just goes "fuck it" and throws nuance out the window, not considering the circumstances that led to the results Windows Central has published.
scorpio
Probably outsold the slim. Better graphics and 2 new console launches and all sony could do was tie.
Good numbers for both and XB1 up for holidays (although down overall I gather) while PS4 remains consistent but Christ some are of the comments are just insane in their lack in of understanding of consumer market.
Pro was never intended to take big chunk of sales ratio people: why do you think most effort was made for standard model in terms of advertising and bundles? The Pro is clearly intended to slowly gain momentum. It's sales are in line with launch profile next to slim, marketing focus and generation timeframe
It's too early to tell exactly how Scorpio will be positioned really and as they're trailing MS might react differently with it depending on how it launches.
Pro was never intended to take big chunk of sales ratio people: why do you think most effort was made for standard model in terms of advertising and bundles? The Pro is clearly intended to slowly gain momentum. It's sales are in line with launch profile next to slim, marketing focus and generation timeframe
It's too early to tell exactly how Scorpio will be positioned really and as they're trailing MS might react differently with it depending on how it launches.
It's a pretty salty statement, yeah.
Doomed.
So when MS beat Sony with the Xbone S by 10k units on one of those four months, it was a victory by MS having two the Xbone and the Xbone S. but now that Sony beat MS by almost 60k it is a tie.
Ok.
hanspampel
Banned
I know and read your post
The gap at the end of 2015 was 1.3m and 11,5%
The gap at the end of 2016 is 1.65m and 10,5%
but the Ps4 2016 lead over Xb1 was basically contributed by just Q1 and a very big margin
Ps4 sold 962K
Xb1 sold 619K
The gap for that quarter was 343K or 55,5%
That is the total Ps4 lead over Xb1 for the full year of 2016
But It wasn't a tie.
I agree, its pretty obvious whats going on here with this site suddenly posting numbers. Where were they the past 6 months?
Head.spawn
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They both had $230 SKU's floating around.