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[Ryu Kaiba]

Let’s be accurate: assuming the rumors are true, Horizon came out 3 years ago and Dreams is a game that requires the broadest community possible. TLOU 2 and co. aren’t being released day and date yet, so exclusives are still a thing and will continue to be.

That said, if you subtract exclusives, hardware sales could and should die. The real golden goose is the licensing fees platform makers are able to extract via publishing, but platforms don’t have to be limited by a physical footprint any longer. Hardware is ultra risky and low margin. Aiming to be the place where games are played is more important than selling people the box to play them on.

I agree with your first statement but the 2nd one contradicts itself.
The Box is the place where games are played.
The Box is the place where licensing fees are obtained.

 

[existensmaximum]

Even if every exclusive was coming to PC, which they aren't, there are lots of reasons.

- Price/performance
- Form factor
- Convenience, convenience, convenience
- Looks x1000 more sleek in the living room
- The ecosystem
- Physical media (buying/selling used games included)
- Not having to fuck around in Windows just to play a game (which includes not having to use loaders or gaming storefronts to start a game)
- Sleep mode in the middle of a game
- Share button
- Everything is streamlined for gaming
- You never need to use a mouse or keyboard
- Backwards compatibility

And even if Horizon is eventually released on PC, you could play it on Playstation years before.

Do I need to go on? You know, it's not like console users are stupid and don't know that you can play games on PC? They just choose not to, for many, many reasons.

 

[trancefreak64]

Not sure about cost, but you aren't going to get anything faster than a 1080Ti or 2080. By the time the new consoles come out, they'll be 2 gens behind from 2080Ti and Ampere (3080Ti). But that's the normal pace for Nvidia anyway. I also think RNDA 2 is going to be a really good alternative to current 20xx Nvidia boards.

And a 1080Ti still smashes every console on the market and it's not even close. Pascal is still amazing and I wouldn't even upgrade until the 4 0r 5000 series of Nvidia chips. It's a damn waste of money when current games can't shake a 1080ti unless you want RTX, which ain't all that necessary IMO.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

@Vawn
I feel that will be the direction of the future though, with each iteration it will be closer to this vision.
Just as it was a bit too early to go full digital last generation, this generation is a bit too early for this vision.
But with the continuous development of faster Internet, eventually streaming will take care of almost everything.
The boxes will be more of which brand you like best, but Sony will probably keep their exclusives for their box at least for the first few years before they go into their streaming / subscription service.

I had a whole response but I erased it fuck it all just no.
No.

 

[-MD-]

Consoles are better for the living room.

Yea you could hook your PC up to a TV, but it's not as convenient of just turning on a console and picking up a controller and playing a game.

But then you're still dealing with stuff like shitty performance and online fees and shit like that.

I'd much rather run an HDMI cable into my TV than have to continue dealing with consoles. The day I can play everything on PC is gonna be a good day.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

Not sure about cost, but you aren't going to get anything faster than a 1080Ti or 2080. By the time the new consoles come out, they'll be 2 gens behind from 2080Ti and Ampere (3080Ti). But that's the normal pace for Nvidia anyway. I also think RNDA 2 is going to be a really good alternative to current 20xx Nvidia boards.

Who cares the games still look excellent on console and you don't have to spend thousands to enjoy them

And a 1080Ti still smashes every console on the market and it's not even close.

Obviously it's still the same Gen.

Some PC Gamers are like drug addicts that overdose regularly and have super high tolerance and have to overspend and port beg to enjoy the simple things.

 

[JaffeLion]

Im gonna love to see the Pc Master Race port begging the new Uncharted or God of War if what Sony do is just release their old ass Ps4 games 2 years later in PC (like Horizon)

Dreams isn't even out yet. its not going to be only old ass games, bruh

 

[trancefreak64]

Who cares the games still look excellent on console and you don't have to spend thousands to enjoy them


Obviously it's still the same Gen.

Some PC Gamers are like drug addicts that overdose regularly and have super high tolerance and have to overspend and port beg to enjoy the simple things.

You abbreviated my reply and took it out of context. My point is the performance of a GTX 1080Ti on a console, with RayTracing, and a fast SSD will be amazing If that's what gamers get on the next consoles they won't be disappointed.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

Dreams isn't even out yet. its not going to be only old ass games, bruh

Dreams is a creation engine bruh.

 

[Silent Viper]

Consoles are cheaper, more convenient for gamers both hardcore and casual. I mean seriously, buying a PC equivalent to Series X will cost almost double the console price. So not everyone can afford PC. How much a Ray tracing 12TF gpu will cost today in market with Ryzen 2 and NVME SSD? Alot for normal middle class consumer.

And above all we not getting Sony exclusives day and date but years later. Unless we get games like TLOU and GOW nd all day and date. Dont think PS worth abandoning over PC.

 

[Silent Viper]

Sony strategy is to make you all double dip. First year game is exclusive to console then year later on PC. Unless they do day and date release, you can't say no need for consoles.

 

[VFXVeteran]

And a 1080Ti still smashes every console on the market and it's not even close. Pascal is still amazing and I wouldn't even upgrade until the 4 0r 5000 series of Nvidia chips. It's a damn waste of money when current games can't shake a 1080ti unless you want RTX, which ain't all that necessary IMO.

That's not true. I have a 2080Ti (had every generation) and there are games on it that can not hold 60FPS @4k. Detroit, CoD, Sniper:Ghost Warrior, SW:Jedi Fallen, RDR2, etc.. all bring a 2080Ti to it's knees. We still aren't there yet with regards to high quality assets and all the graphics features added running locked 4k/60FPS. Maybe Ampere will be the one to outpace current graphics tech (without RTX).

 

[VFXVeteran]

Dreams is a creation engine bruh.

Since you say I know no more than the people here on these boards, what do you know that indicates no other exclusive game is coming to PC which hasn't been released on PS yet? Or are you assuming there isn't going to be one just because you wish it to be so?

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

Since you say I know no more than the people here on these boards, what do you know that indicates no other exclusive game is coming to PC which hasn't been released on PS yet? Or are you assuming there isn't going to be one just because you wish it to be so?

There may be more but it damn sure won't be all of them and they won't be within 6 months like you're praying.

 

[trancefreak64]

That's not true. I have a 2080Ti (had every generation) and there are games on it that can not hold 60FPS @4k. Detroit, CoD, Sniper:Ghost Warrior, SW:Jedi Fallen, RDR2, etc.. all bring a 2080Ti to it's knees. We still aren't there yet with regards to high quality assets and all the graphics features added running locked 4k/60FPS. Maybe Ampere will be the one to outpace current graphics tech (without RTX).

I think ampere will be of a gpu unlike anything PC gamers have seen. I also believe Nvidia has enormous researched capabilities then what's on the current market that would blow PC enthusiast away. To be fair, I am not suggesting that a 1080ti can compete with a 2080Ti either. Personally for me is the cost to performance ratio that comes every few cycles with Nvidia GPUs. I refuse to not take advantage of the high end GPU that I purchased until it's no longer capable. If the 2080Ti was available when I was purchasing my GPU I would have bought it instead, but for now I will wait for the next couple iterations of Nvidia GPUs. Thanks for the reply

 

[VFXVeteran]

There may be more but it damn sure won't be all of them and they won't be within 6 months like you're praying.

It doesn't need to be all of them. The important ones are what's driving the news (ala HZD). There will be more important ones.. or do you work for some of the 1st party companies? I would be happy to verify your sources.

 

[_Ex_]

Exclusives are extinct. Unless they are made by Nintendo. But even that will come to an end.

 

[Silent Viper]

 

[Bkdk]

For casual gamers and those who just want a budget pc like consoles. Just like many fast food or cheap affordable tours/cruise out there. People have different main hobbies/passion and if they only game for avg. 1 hour a day then consoles will be a better choice. If gaming is main hobby, then sure PC is the definitive choice for gaming.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

It doesn't need to be all of them. The important ones are what's driving the hatred (ala HZD). There will be more important ones.. or do you work for some of the 1st party companies? I would be happy to verify your sources.

There may be more older PS4 titles on PC some day and I'd be happy to see that. Don't hold your breath for The Last of Us part II or PS5 titles. Don't worry about my sources.

 

[VFXVeteran]

There may be more older PS4 titles on PC some day and I'd be happy to see that. Don't hold your breath for The Last of Us part II or PS5 titles. Don't worry about my sources.

You don't know what you are talking about and only guessing... sorry.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

You don't know what you are talking about and only guessing... sorry.

You're the one who's guessing. You don't even have any common sense let alone insider information.

 

[Red_Driver85]

You don't know what you are talking about and only guessing... sorry.

You did not give a single name or a single specific game. What the hell are you an insider? You just guess and collect various gossip and people think that you know something there. If the insider has infоrmation, he shares it. What did you share? NOTHING. You just a hungry PC zealot.

 

[Mossybrew]

Nah, console gamer through and through. I love the simplicity, user friendly, it integegrates into my couch life, does everything I need. My PC is for playing WoW a few months out of every year. And Porn.

If you only care about playing videogames and watching shows and movies on apps on your bigscreen 4k tv while lounging on the couch, PlayStation is the absolute easiest best solution period.

 

[VFXVeteran]

You did not give a single name or a single specific game. What the hell are you an insider? You just guess and collect various gossip and people think that you know something there. If the insider has infоrmation, he shares it. What did you share? NOTHING. You just a hungry PC zealot.

If you got problems with me not telling you what I know and trying to call me fake even after vetted, you really need to have this conversation with Mod of War . Otherwise both of you need to back off trying to get me to leak shit.

 

[Red_Driver85]

If you got problems with me not telling you what I know and trying to call me fake even after vetted, you really need to have this conversation with . Otherwise both of you need to back off trying to get me to leak shit.

Well, and every time so. Instead of calling at least a small piece of what you know, you simply run away. Why Schreier is not afraid, Logvinov is the same. And you’re shaking so straight as if it’s really breaking something in someone’s life, they only know you here basically and nobody will pay special attention to you. They won’t do anything to your sources if you just hinted. But being a diligent industry worker and being an insider is not the same thing.
I do not attack you, but you squeeze out so much importance from yourself, but in fact it is dust. I just don’t believe you and wrote why. And also you wrote a lot of nonsense, for example, about the fact that "ultra on PC" is the next generation. What a sheer nonsense.
Man, JUST. NAME. IT. A little bit, very small piece of info, I know that you can if you know.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

If you got problems with me not telling you what I know and trying to call me fake even after vetted, you really need to have this conversation with Mod of War . Otherwise both of you need to back off trying to get me to leak shit.

I'm not trying to get you to leak stuff, you defend your wild statements by saying you "have more information because I've worked in this industry" but you provide nothing but nonsense claims based on your wishful thinking and self serving rationale. Even if you have worked in this industry, that doesn't automatically mean you have any inside information on Sony exec's plans or that your opinions hold more weight then anyone else's, and the fact that you would act like they do with nothing to back it up makes you sound like a fraud.

 

[VFXVeteran]

Well, and every time so. Instead of calling at least a small piece of what you know, you simply run away. Why Schreyer is not afraid, Logvinov is the same. And you’re shaking so straight as if it’s really breaking something in someone’s life, they only know you here basically and nobody will pay special attention to you. They won’t do anything to your sources if you just hinted. But being a diligent industry worker and being an insider is not the same thing.
I do not attack you, but you squeeze out so much importance from yourself, but in fact it is dust. I just don’t believe you and wrote why. And also you wrote a lot of nonsense, for example, about the fact that "ultra on PC" is the next generation. What a sheer nonsense.

My friends mean a lot to me. I'm very easily trackable contrary to popular belief (that's why I got vetted so quickly). You will know the news when someone else mentions it on a website, but I'm not going to be quoted and articles written about me on websites like OsirisBlack . Not going to happen sorry. I knew about HZD before the 2019 Game Awards and told you my sources said there would be more. Thats' all you needed to know and still you blurted out how insane the "idea" was like I was dreaming it up or something. Yes, I do have inside sources whom I've worked with in the past. Period. Wait for the games to be announced (as they have been on the regular).

And your idea of how next-gen will look is a warped fantasy like most other "hopefuls" on next-gen hardware. You should have seen the irrational excitment over tech demos that never showed the light of day pre-PS4 days. I told people then the renders weren't going to be actual gameplay and that a lot of those demos were on PCs. I know the hardware. I program the hardware and have done 3D graphics for many years. I know what's too heavy for graphics cards and what hampers their performance. That's not bragging -- it's just the truth. So I can asses very accurately with my comrades what is reasonable for next-gen consoles given a real world performance delta (which I was given). If you are looking for movie like quality then prepare to be disappointed. I don't see how you can think games will look better than a PC running on a 2080Ti. Even Jensen announced the next-gen consoles won't be as strong as the Nvidia boards and people ignored that too. You think he doesn't have inside info?

 

[VFXVeteran]

I'm not trying to get you to leak stuff, you defend your wild statements by saying you "have more information because I've worked in this industry" but you provide nothing but nonsense claims based on your wishful thinking and self serving rationale. Even if you have worked in this industry, that doesn't automatically mean you have any inside information on Sony exec's plans or that your opinions hold more weight then anyone else's, and the fact that you would act like they do with nothing to back it up makes you a fraud.

Believe what you want to believe. I have worked with many people (and still communicate) who work at Sony 1st party PS studios and 3rd party studios. Period. Think I'm a fraud.. go ahead. doesn't erase the fact that I can call any of these dudes up anytime.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

My friends mean a lot to me. I'm very easily trackable contrary to popular belief (that's why I got vetted so quickly). You will know the news when someone else mentions it on a website, but I'm not going to be quoted and articles written about me on websites like OsirisBlack . Not going to happen sorry. I knew about HZD before the E3 and told you my sources said there would be more. Thats' all you needed to know and still you blurted out how insane the "idea" was like I was dreaming it up or something. Yes, I do have inside sources whom I've worked with in the past. Period. Wait for the games to be announced (as they have been on the regular).

And your idea of how next-gen will look is a warped fantasy like most other "hopefuls" on next-gen hardware. You should have seen the irrational excitment over tech demos that never showed the light of day pre-PS4 days. I told people then the renders weren't going to be actual gameplay and that a lot of those demos were on PCs. I know the hardware. I program the hardware and have done 3D graphics for many years. I know what's too heavy for graphics cards and what hampers their performance. That's not bragging -- it's just the truth. So I can asses very accurately with my comrades what is reasonable for next-gen consoles given a real world performance delta (which I was given). If you are looking for movie like quality then prepare to be disappointed. I don't see how you can think games will look better than a PC running on a 2080Ti. Even Jensen announced the next-gen consoles won't be as strong as the Nvidia boards and people ignored that too. You think he doesn't have inside info?

I'm sure you're right about how well they'll perform but first party titles always tend to blow me away from Sony every Gen. even Generations where I have a better PC (like now). I'm still impressed by the PS3 Killzone games (yes a PC port would be nice)

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

My friends mean a lot to me. I'm very easily trackable contrary to popular belief (that's why I got vetted so quickly). You will know the news when someone else mentions it on a website, but I'm not going to be quoted and articles written about me on websites like OsirisBlack . Not going to happen sorry. I knew about HZD before the E3 and told you my sources said there would be more. Thats' all you needed to know and still you blurted out how insane the "idea" was like I was dreaming it up or something. Yes, I do have inside sources whom I've worked with in the past. Period. Wait for the games to be announced (as they have been on the regular).

And your idea of how next-gen will look is a warped fantasy like most other "hopefuls" on next-gen hardware. You should have seen the irrational excitment over tech demos that never showed the light of day pre-PS4 days. I told people then the renders weren't going to be actual gameplay and that a lot of those demos were on PCs. I know the hardware. I program the hardware and have done 3D graphics for many years. I know what's too heavy for graphics cards and what hampers their performance. That's not bragging -- it's just the truth. So I can asses very accurately with my comrades what is reasonable for next-gen consoles given a real world performance delta (which I was given). If you are looking for movie like quality then prepare to be disappointed. I don't see how you can think games will look better than a PC running on a 2080Ti. Even Jensen announced the next-gen consoles won't be as strong as the Nvidia boards and people ignored that too. You think he doesn't have inside info?

First thing you've said that's made some sense. You actually sound like an insider now and not just a PC fanboy.
I'll buy that you've worked there and have some friends there. I still don't expect PS5 games to come to PC anytime soon after launch because it just seems like a bad move for Sony but we can just wait and see there.
As for performance anything close to a 1080ti in PS5 would make me happy. I'm very impressed with what they've pulled off with the low specs of the PS4 in games like God of War I can only imagine the magic they will be able work with next gen power.

Thank you for elaborating more.

 

[Red_Driver85]

I knew about HZD before the E3 and told you my sources said there would be more.

You know, something still doesn’t dock, because of this:

Just to be clear, I never specifically said one of my sources told me that HZD was coming to PC. I showed my source that "HZD coming to PC" and his comment was "there will be more.." -- as everyone can already see happening (whether 1st or 3rd party). When I went back to confirm specifically about HZD, he said he honestly did not know.

How is it that you knew and did not know at the same time? You threw off the burden of responsibility in advance, and now you say that you knew everything.

If you are looking for movie like quality then prepare to be disappointed. I don't see how you can think games will look better than a PC running on a 2080Ti.

I am sure I will not be disappointed. And the graphics of the new generation will surpass the current PCs ultra, this is the meaning of the new generation.

Even Jensen announced the next-gen consoles won't be as strong as the Nvidia boards and people ignored that too. You think he doesn't have inside info?

The twisted words of a "leather jacket" absolutely do not interest me.

 

[HE1NZ]

whats the reason doe? paying for online when its free on PC?. or having to deal with constant network updates and shutdowns. I see no reason to own a console at that point if I can get xbox and ps exclusives on one platform. 2 or 3 games Sony releases a year that might take a while to make it to PC aren't a deal breaker. the deal breaker is having to buy a dedicated gaming machine , controllers, pay premium for console games that cost less on PC and pay for online.

Even if every PS exclusive gets a PC release on the same day console players are still gonna play on consoles.

 

[The Pleasure]

Two words to dissuade pc gaming

WB games

 

[KiNeMz]

Can play on the couch.

 

[PocoJoe]

Cost: I dont want to invest 1500-2000€ for whole setup, I already have expensive laptop for work/software

Size: no room for desktop+table

Usage: pc gaming just sucks, reason I moved to ps4 were partly the endless problems with pc (multiplayer mostly) gaming. Usually it took hours to get game sessions to work because one or more on the group had issues. And no, not because we didn't know how to setup, just issues with games/drivers/bugs/servers (pc+console gamer from 1995 to 2014) yeah it can also work easily, but always more hazzle than on console where things just work

Also i just like to play with playstation, easy, fast and relaxing

 

[MilkyJoe]

I think I speak for everyone when I say "oh look, it's this shit again"

 

[HaveButOneLife]

But #SonyToo...


It's rather dumb tbh. There is absolutely no confirmation of anything whatsoever.
HZD hearsay from a random Russian.

Death Stranding is a special case, because Kojima Productions isn't a Sony studio and there had been a lot to do with Kojima and the whole Konami drama.
Sony offered to help him start up his new studio, so while they published DS, it coming to PC too is very different from Sony releasing their major 1st party IPs on different platforms.

Dreams possibly coming to PC is something MediaMolecule talked about a couple of times.
But even that is different, as Dreams is more of a game engine than a game. Even MediaMolecule officially called Dreams a game engine during their keynote at GDC 2019 or wherever it was.

So apart from these two cases, people are getting caught up in the rumors and MS' decision to release all their IPs on PC.

I agree, but whether it's true or not the mentality is what's important IMO.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I agree, but whether it's true or not the mentality is what's important IMO.

Hence why you also notice some people, see the peppering of particular threads on the front page, quite intent on ensuring this is a talked about topic / front page news no matter how veiled the fake concern is. Gotta love the console wars .

 

[Panajev2001a]

But #SonyToo...


It's rather dumb tbh. There is absolutely no confirmation of anything whatsoever.
HZD hearsay from a random Russian.

Death Stranding is a special case, because Kojima Productions isn't a Sony studio and there had been a lot to do with Kojima and the whole Konami drama.
Sony offered to help him start up his new studio, so while they published DS, it coming to PC too is very different from Sony releasing their major 1st party IPs on different platforms.

Dreams possibly coming to PC is something MediaMolecule talked about a couple of times.
But even that is different, as Dreams is more of a game engine than a game. Even MediaMolecule officially called Dreams a game engine during their keynote at GDC 2019 or wherever it was.

So apart from these two cases, people are getting caught up in the rumors and MS' decision to release all their IPs on PC.

Indeed... another #WhatAboutSony.

MS announces two years of cross generation first party titles and intention to put a growing list of first party titles on PC —> reasons to rejoice.

Rumour about some older PS4 titles and possibly one game engine / game maker tool coming to PC == all PS5 exclusives day and date on PC, Spider-man on Xbox, age of Sony is over, doom + gloom + CONCERN!

 

[NT80]

Again, what is the actual cost of a Pc with the supposed specs of the PlayStation5 including gamepads and a Windows license?

I play on console and PC but PCs seem much more inefficient with their power so I don't think you can compare them directly. How well optimized PC games are varies a lot too with different developers. Console games also become much more impressive as the gen goes on. I'd be interested to see how well a PC with specs as close as they can be to a PS4 would run Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4 etc.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

whats the reason doe? paying for online when its free on PC?. or having to deal with constant network updates and shutdowns. I see no reason to own a console at that point if I can get xbox and ps exclusives on one platform. 2 or 3 games Sony releases a year that might take a while to make it to PC aren't a deal breaker. the deal breaker is having to buy a dedicated gaming machine , controllers, pay premium for console games that cost less on PC and pay for online.

You can't based on 3 years old game that PS exclusives will come to PC day 1.

 

[Boss Mog]

Not having to wait a year or more for exclusives to come to PC. MS may release them at the same time but Sony won't, that much is certain. It's not a big deal to release games that are a few years old on the PC. Though I think Sony should do like Epic and create its own store and launcher on PC. No need for them to pay fees to other people.

But to answer the OP's question, the main reason to own a console is the closed environment which often limits cheating heavily if not entirely. I will never play any competitive multiplayer game on PC, EVER. My friends all feel the same way, therefor we play on PS4.

 

[Kacho]

This is a stupid topic, since only like 3 high profile Playstation games have been ported over to PC.

More are coming

 

[Fbh]

Cheaper
Generally considered to be more streamlined and easier to use
Entire UI designed to be used with a controller, on a TV, from the couch
Smaller form factor
Physical Media (sales from physical stores, renting, used market, borrowing, etc)
Exclusives. Keep in mind that even if Sony games come to PC years down the line, they are still not releasing on Xbox which is the actual direct competitor. Also the moment people are most excited about new releases is still the launch window, look how many people still buy games at launch for $60 knowing fully well that like a month or 2 later it will already be $40. A lot of people can hardly wait 2 months to play a new release and you are telling me they will wait 3 years + now to play on PC?


This notion that because Horizon might release on PC now suddenly everyone is going to go build a $1000+ PC is stupid. There's a tiny segment of more core gamers that might do that (I'm considering it myself). But the average consumer that gets a console to play COD, Fifa/Madden, Assasins Creed, God of War and maybe spiderman 2 (which is like 95% of the ps4 userbase) isn't going to do that

 

[Bankai]

Trophies boi.

 

[kraspkibble]

definitely cheaper.

my PC cost me just under £4,000. it's ridiculous. i know you can get way cheaper than that but it's hard to get a PC down to the £300-500 price without sucking ass.

less hassle. sometimes i can be spending hours trying to get the right settings. i bought RDR2 for pc and after 3 hours of messing around i just said fuck it and played it on my PS4.

i've been playing on PC for about 5 years now but i have decided to not upgrade it anymore. i'll use my PC until it starts to struggle with games but i'm going back to console gaming as my main platform. i just want to save myself money and hassle.

 

[LazyParrot]

i bought RDR2 for pc and after 3 hours of messing around i just said fuck it and played it on my PS4.

Why would you even bother tweaking settings if you're fine with PS4 level graphics and performance? Getting that out of a £4,000 PC should be absolutely trivial and require little to no messing with the settings at all.

 

[Kazza]

my PC cost me just under £4,000. it's ridiculous. i know you can get way cheaper than that but it's hard to get a PC down to the £300-500 price without sucking ass.

Woah, I get that a PC in the £300-£500 price range demands some compromises, but there is a huge range of possibilities between the £500 and £4,000 price point! I plan on spending around £800-£900 building my PC at the end of the year, and believe that to be a pretty sweet spot in terms of price/performance.

 

[DESTROYA]

definitely cheaper.

my PC cost me just under £4,000. it's ridiculous. i know you can get way cheaper than that but it's hard to get a PC down to the £300-500 price without sucking ass.

less hassle. sometimes i can be spending hours trying to get the right settings. i bought RDR2 for pc and after 3 hours of messing around i just said fuck it and played it on my PS4.

i've been playing on PC for about 5 years now but i have decided to not upgrade it anymore. i'll use my PC until it starts to struggle with games but i'm going back to console gaming as my main platform. i just want to save myself money and hassle.

Damn man you paid like twice as much if not more than what a top tier PC build should and I’m talking some of the best of the best parts.
Why would you spend hours getting settings right ? Put it on high or Ultra and away you go, ( I’m guessing if you spent so much it’s a top end PC you have )
Over spending on a PC and spending hours getting settings “perfect” is on you and not the PC fault , I get you wanting to save money but the hassle part is more you.