Blond
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Capable is a very loose term in the PC world
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with PS exclusives coming to PC potentially. whats the reason for owning a console now (not named nintendo)
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Capable is a very loose term in the PC world
Gamernyc78
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Very much so.
ResilientBanana
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Performance is relative. But once next-gen occurs the cost of entry in the PC space will rise.
Blond
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X - Doubt
Mostly because it's not like you have to go top tier *all* the time. 6-800 dollars has always been the mid range price of a PC and we haven't seen that change for a long time.
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Mihos
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I don't know man, PC prices tend to come down pretty fast and capabilities go up pretty steady. So even if that is true on release, I doubt it would even be a year before that switches.
ResilientBanana
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I guess, but a $500 console usually does more than a $500 PC. But a $1,500 PC will typically destroy a $500 console.
Chromium.Wings
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I think consoles will always provide a better overall experience for the casual gamer. It's much less complicated to deal with, plus the entry is pretty cheap and games aren't really that expensive when compared to PC games anymore. I just bought another PS4 for $250 which included a controller (which I already have a few), God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, and The Last of Us Remastered. That's an incredibly cheap cost to enter at that performance level. Even at $400 with no games (AKA launch), the cost for box, performance, and user experience is unmatched in the PC space. There is no way in hell I could build a PC that could run Red Dead Redemption 2 for $250, let alone $400, and that's including if I keep everything else about my set-up static (my keyboard stays, my mouse stays, and my monitor stays) to equate it with the console as much as possible.
I say this as someone who has a pretty beefy PC who enjoys PC gaming in general. Consoles beat out PCs in a fair amount of aspects, the best advantage PC has is the power advantage and the adaptability. Just as consoles weren't going anywhere in 2005/6, they weren't going anywhere in 2013, and they won't be going anywhere in 2020.
I say this as someone who has a pretty beefy PC who enjoys PC gaming in general. Consoles beat out PCs in a fair amount of aspects, the best advantage PC has is the power advantage and the adaptability. Just as consoles weren't going anywhere in 2005/6, they weren't going anywhere in 2013, and they won't be going anywhere in 2020.
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Blond
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Sota4077
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HaveButOneLife
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I don't see how PC is cheaper, but still they're digital games and we still get $10 physical media for consoles (PS4/X1).
Niked
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Cool, now run off little kid.
JoeyWestSide
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Money. Money money money money money. Its always the #1 reason. So much so that there's an entire study on with rules that say as price decreases demand increases. In marketing word of mouth is and always will be the biggest and most reliable form of advertising, so, friends and family suggesting it will be reason #2.
devilNprada
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As someone who has built 3 gaming PC's but haven't used a home PC for ~10 years... I was under the assumption all gaming PC's were big god awful Alienware machines. I would seriously consider a low profile PC with the convenience of a console in my living room. I will have to look into it.
devilNprada
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Oh on second thought that sounds too hard
Bryank75
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Why buy a console? Cause they last for seven or more years and the manufacturer subsidises the cost and uses economies of scale to make your money go further.
While nvidia will give you a really awesome card but the games won't be well optimized to take advantage and it will cost you lots! Up to three or four times a consoles price.
While nvidia will give you a really awesome card but the games won't be well optimized to take advantage and it will cost you lots! Up to three or four times a consoles price.
JohnnyFootball
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Worth repeating for the people in the back.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Cost and simplicity. Some folks just want to buy a $300 box to play videogames, not drop $500+ on a PC.
And because folks will reply that you can buy or build a $300 PC, of course you can, I know that, but it probably won't play videogames particularly well.
And because folks will reply that you can buy or build a $300 PC, of course you can, I know that, but it probably won't play videogames particularly well.
belteshazzar
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If all exclusives come to PC then there is little reason to want to own the consoles imho. I think at that point it would be a lot smarter to get a PC since you basically have access to everything, any controller, emulation, can be used for other things other than gaming, etc. However, there would still be plenty of reasons to want to own the consoles. Price might be one them. Additionally, you might not care at all about Xbox or PS exclusives, so there is no added benefit to have those games available. As long as cross platform is not adopted industry wide, you might be barred from playing with your friends that are locked to a particular platform. For collector's, they wouldn't be able to have physical releases (RIP big PC boxes). In any case, only time will tell if that is what actually happens, since Sony hasn't confirmed every major 1st Party release will also be made available on PC.
jakinov
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- Costs - console manufacturers mass-producing these consoles and not trying to make a huge profit off the console gives you more bang for your buck and gives a much lower barrier to entry.
- Complexity - It's a machine mainly dedicated to playing games, pop disc in, it's easy to start
- No dealing with drivers (not that it's hard)
- Universal interface for communication/social features
- don't have to deal with graphic settings
- Don't have to deal with multiple launchers/stores, logins, payment options, etc.
- It's easier for if you have kids to just give them a console they can use to run games instead of teaching them Windows first.
- An OS optimized for launching and playing games.
- If you build it, you don't want to deal with RMA's all your parts.
- Picking out a console is also extremely easy, compared to looking at all the specs on pcs to figure out what machine to buy.
- Console Exclusive Games - Whether it's timed or in perpetuity. Sure PC has its exclusives to but so do consoles sometimes.
- Game Reliability - Sure with PC you can surpass certain limits if you pay more money, but console games are easier for developers to tune and prevent bugs. I've been a PC gamer for a while time and every once in a while a friend or I will run into some technical problem with a PC game.
- Priority & Exclusive Content - From my experience patches and DLC often come to consoles first or even release earlier on consoles.
- Form Factor - A small machine that fits under under your TV.
To each their own though. If this stuff doesn't matter to you then that's great go get a PC and Switch only.
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DoctaThompson
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I can play pc on the couch, and console sitting behind a desk. They are interchangable in case you had no clue...
Kazza
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The problem with that is they need to find a way of making that money from you later in the process (paid online, higher priced games etc). In the end it's hard to say which ends up cheaper and which more expensive.
DelireMan7
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I am a console gamer and gave up playing on PC years ago.
First I don't give that much importance to graphics because for me PS4/Xbox one VS PC are not so different (in my eye) and the upgrade the PC brings doesn't add value to a game.
Second I don't give any care, ABSOLUTELY ANY CARE, to FPS counts.*
Console are superior for my way of gaming.
So exclusivity or not, I'll for sure stay on console for at least the next gen.
*In the limit of playability of course but as an example I made dozens of runs on the original Dark Souls on PS3. Then a friend of mine told me how Blightown was unplayable. And it gives something like this :
Me : "What ?! It's perfectly playable for me".
Friend : "Impossible there is a huge FPS drop in the swamp. It's the same on every PS3"
Me : "Hum... OK if you say so"
Then I went back to my game, squinting my eyes for several minutes, inspecting carefully how my game was running in this swamp and then realize that indeed the game is SLIGHTLY slower here but nothing disturbing to me... (I checked on the net, and it's around 15-20 FPS in this area if it speaks to you)
First I don't give that much importance to graphics because for me PS4/Xbox one VS PC are not so different (in my eye) and the upgrade the PC brings doesn't add value to a game.
Second I don't give any care, ABSOLUTELY ANY CARE, to FPS counts.*
Console are superior for my way of gaming.
- I buy a game and I know it will run perfectly when I put it in (ok except some badly optimize games...)
- I'll not need to upgrade my console every 2-3 years (I don't really know how often you have to upgrade your PC actually)
- No "maintenance". With PC there is always drivers to keep up-to-date, antivirus scan, keep it clean...
- Play on sofa. Playing on PC without a decent chair is a nightmare (I speak from experience)
So exclusivity or not, I'll for sure stay on console for at least the next gen.
*In the limit of playability of course but as an example I made dozens of runs on the original Dark Souls on PS3. Then a friend of mine told me how Blightown was unplayable. And it gives something like this :
Me : "What ?! It's perfectly playable for me".
Friend : "Impossible there is a huge FPS drop in the swamp. It's the same on every PS3"
Me : "Hum... OK if you say so"
Then I went back to my game, squinting my eyes for several minutes, inspecting carefully how my game was running in this swamp and then realize that indeed the game is SLIGHTLY slower here but nothing disturbing to me... (I checked on the net, and it's around 15-20 FPS in this area if it speaks to you)
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I never say its not possible. But who wants? not for me. Good for you prefer to game on a pc desk / couch vice versa. Incase you might want to know, i prefer gaming on my bed with big screen tv hang on the wall.
vaibhavpisal
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Gaming consoles might go netflix way. You get instant access to every game including legacy games from platform holder for a fixed monthly price. You can buy per piece to "own" it but wont be necessary.
Considering all consoles are aiming for backward compatibility, this might be one of the reason.
Considering all consoles are aiming for backward compatibility, this might be one of the reason.
ChoosableOne
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Having a console is great.
You can move it everywhere with ease in your home, you can take it to vacation or your friends home etc.
You don't deal with bullshit other than gaming, less bugy, more stable. I couldn't play Cod modern warfare because my rx580 card(or else?) for instance.
It has great lively online community, paid subscription keeps most of the kids out of it. It is cheaper, so more people can afford it, that means bigger player pool with less kids.
Regional pricing combined with no exclusive jealousy(if Sony gives up) and more game variety leads me to Pc gaming only. Xbox gamepass Pc great as it is. If Psnow will include downloadable games too, these two services will be big factors too.
I can't justify Switch purchase with that game price policy.
You can move it everywhere with ease in your home, you can take it to vacation or your friends home etc.
You don't deal with bullshit other than gaming, less bugy, more stable. I couldn't play Cod modern warfare because my rx580 card(or else?) for instance.
It has great lively online community, paid subscription keeps most of the kids out of it. It is cheaper, so more people can afford it, that means bigger player pool with less kids.
Regional pricing combined with no exclusive jealousy(if Sony gives up) and more game variety leads me to Pc gaming only. Xbox gamepass Pc great as it is. If Psnow will include downloadable games too, these two services will be big factors too.
I can't justify Switch purchase with that game price policy.
Team Andromeda
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Because Consoles and PC and different and that's why they are named different . I doubt any serious PC gamer ever said with all the best PC games going to a console, there's no need to own a PC.
I never thought time to get rid of my Saturn, Mega Drive, Dreamcast because SEGA was porting so many games to a PC.
Just because they share the same tech and have the same games, doesn't mean they're the same. Die Hard consoles gamers and Die Hard PC gamers are not quite the same breed.
I've always loved the ease of use of the console and that will never change
I never thought time to get rid of my Saturn, Mega Drive, Dreamcast because SEGA was porting so many games to a PC.
Just because they share the same tech and have the same games, doesn't mean they're the same. Die Hard consoles gamers and Die Hard PC gamers are not quite the same breed.
I've always loved the ease of use of the console and that will never change
jakinov
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It doesn't really matter to consumers if you pay more in long run. People don't think that far ahead when they want something. Games are priced the same on consoles vs PC nowadays. The only difference is that sometimes there's more predictable discounting. From my experience Steam sales weren't as good as they were 10 years ago when I could get a lot of games for under $10 and it's not like Sony/Microsoft don't do regular discounts you just can't expect the same level of discounting every quarter like you can from Steam. Some other factors to keep in mind is that for some consumers even if they pay more or comparably later on that there's some value in the fact that PS+ and GOLD also give user access to games, DLC, play-tests, customization, and discounts. Retail though a lot rarer and even more unpredictable but happens eventually (for most games) offer even better discounting because of clearances of stock if you pay attention. The other thing if you can make the argument that you can save money with PC because of discounts, then you also have to take into account that PS+/Gold goes on sale very often at $5-20 off for the year.
DunDunDunpachi
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The launch of next-gen consoles always brings out the PC gamer port begging, it's cute.
SmoothRunningGun
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Couch and friends. Pretty simple. Maybe not play Sony exclusives (lol) a year late. I feel you about paying for online though. Fuck that.
recklesscognition
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I hate playing games on PC.
Derktron
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I swear these topics are so stupid and dramatic and uneducated. First off a lot of people refuse to understand that consoles still have a place because one of many reasons. One of the biggest is the common consumer. Another is the hardcore gamers who still prefer consoles over PC. Another is not many people don’t want to handle the maintenance of a gaming PC. So they like the simplicity of a console. Why is it so hard for people to understand this? Why?
PC gaming is for those who want something more and powerful and doesn’t mind getting their hands dirty (figure of speech) when it comes to maintenance. As long as those common consumer exist, consoles will continue to exist.
PC gaming is for those who want something more and powerful and doesn’t mind getting their hands dirty (figure of speech) when it comes to maintenance. As long as those common consumer exist, consoles will continue to exist.
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SentientStone
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I don't game on the PC so PlayStation will still be my go-to option for high-end core games.
DoctaThompson
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Do you hate when your have better graphics, resolutions AA, LOD, ambient occlusion, FRAMERATE, controls, etc? What is it that you don't like about having something superior, and you would prefer to have a downgrade? I'm very interested.
If game works with xbox controller then you can use ds4 controller too mapped as xbox one .simple my pc is runs on hdtv and with controller, no need to sit like nerd lean to pc desk.
And zero reason to own nintendo i jusg dont care for its most games, others you can emulate.
And zero reason to own nintendo i jusg dont care for its most games, others you can emulate.
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DelireMan7
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I am not the person you asked to but I feel like I want to reply.
All the things you listed (graphics, resolution, framerate, and stuff I don't even know the meaning) are not what make gaming such a great experience for me.
Then for your second question, you imply that on PC you have everything better; on that I can agree except for few exceptions of course (like playerbase for some online game...); but it comes with quite a price for me (and I am not speaking about money here).
It was most probably already said 1 billion times here but I think it's a non-sense to oppose Console and PC as they are 2 different ways to enjoy gaming. None of them is superior to the other per se. Just people choose the one which fit the best their "gaming style".
tusharngf
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Everyone is saying here they will buy PC if exclusives come to the platform. But they are forgetting its expensive to build a PC which runs games at 4k resolution. You need at least $1500 machine to run games at ultra settings with decent framerate. Also, the ports don't run smoothly on PC compared to consoles. I have upgraded my PC twice last gen. I might need to upgrade my GPU for raytracing along with NVME drive.
DoctaThompson
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You don't need to spend $1500 to get console quality "4k". You can get literally the equivalent parts that would compare to a console for much cheaper than you would imagine. It's not like consoles are playing "true 4k", but checkerboard rendering, some games sub 1080p and definitely not on high or ultra settings, high framerate, as in 60 fps to anywhere near 144 fps, but struggling to even run 30 FPS consistently, etc. A pc can be cheaper than buying a console and games in the long run, as pc games are generally cheaper, and you aren't spending money on xbl or psn every year. And you don't need to upgrade every cycle, like consoles, and can still enjoy future releases for years to come. I built a pc 3 years ago, that will still be better than a xbox 2 or ps6. And I can do minimal upgrades years to come, that won't cost an arm and a leg.
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Software sales has always been the driving force of consoles. Yeah dont get me wrong of course you want to be the one leading the industry with hardware sales but the money has always been software. Now I would say software/services with Gold and Playstation network. Companies just realized most people who game on consoles have zero interest in PC.
The xbox didnt sale poorly because of its exclusives being on pc in sold poorly because the launch was terrible, and once they started to correct the issues people had already invested into the ps4 eco system.
The xbox didnt sale poorly because of its exclusives being on pc in sold poorly because the launch was terrible, and once they started to correct the issues people had already invested into the ps4 eco system.
recklesscognition
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I don't have any of that on my PC because its components aren't top notch. I think I have a 570 graphics card, idk, not into that. I'm not interested in learning specs and upgrading parts even though I build my computers.
FPS do not matter to me, I actually prefer the look and feel of 30 fps. The UI in the PC sucks, it's a pita to play it on my big TV and still use it in my office.
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Journey
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I have a pretty good laptop, 6th gen Lenovo X1 Carbon with an Intel 8th gen processor that I bought about 6 months ago, I also have a desktop with an Intel 4400 Core i5 CPU, 16GB of DDR3 and SSD HDD that I dropped an nVidia GTX 1050 Ti GPU in it. I mostly use my laptop to browse, post, purchase stuff, its mobile so I just grab it and use it, and my desktop in the mid-room/office for gaming, gets me by most games at 1080p which is the res of my LCD monitor.
I'm planning on buying next gen consoles, XSX at launch and PS5 depending on when key games will be available, but definitely buying that as well, if not the Pro model, those 2 will plug in to my 65" 4K TV. They will be playing EVERY Sony exclusive, not just a select few that made it to PC and in full fidelity which I'm sure my 1050 Ti will not handle remotely as good. Now if you think I have a better, smarter or more affordable option, I'm willing to hear it.
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