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World of Warcraft Legion pre-patch
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Mechanized
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The transmog changes are awesome. You go into SW or Org now and everyone looks unique, it's amazing.
StarPlatinumTheWorld
Member
Re-subbed last night, got refund tonight. Didn't know it was possible but figured fuck it, you don't ask you don't get.. Basically if you play less than 12 hours in 1 day you can get a refund.
Exact quote from the GM:
Exact quote from the GM:
It has started with "the end is nigh" announcers in SW and Orgr
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
Member
Leveling up my Ret Pally from 90 and he's shredding these enemies. Hopefully this lasts
Overall though, on my my 100s, seems like they nerfed the shit out of every class's mobility and survivability. Everything hurts way more, and it takes forever to get anywhere. I'll miss you Pursuit of Justice, Death's Advance, Unholy Presence, Momentum, Aspect of the Cheetah
Overall though, on my my 100s, seems like they nerfed the shit out of every class's mobility and survivability. Everything hurts way more, and it takes forever to get anywhere. I'll miss you Pursuit of Justice, Death's Advance, Unholy Presence, Momentum, Aspect of the Cheetah
Totally. I love it.
My Warrior is dual wielding the Ahune frostscythe and it looks so bad ass. It's been stuck on my dormant priest for like three years until now. Put it on the mage I'm leveling also.
yeah no wonder you like that GW2 UI haha
minimalistic UI + reduced abilities = WIN
Finally glad to see Blizz waking up to what makes GW2 great
Yep, Warlock is one of the poster children of developer negligence this expansion. You have the raid and dungeon team making encounters that require burst and/or heavy movement, which Affliction and Demonology straight up cannot handle, respectively. RNG secondary resource generation made Affliction in WoD feel un-fun and now has been extended to Destro, and Destro itself has lost a fair bit of its versatility in its ability to straight up deal with encounter mechanics (longer cast times, difficulty in banking Chaos Bolts, talented execute, gutted AoE). Getting of AoEs as a Warlock with any spec requires a heavy investment and buildup (with Affliction requiring the least, but they all require secondary resource buildup and a long cast timer), and by that time monks and death knights have had theirs rolling and cleared out half of mob health already.
Mage is pretty fun now..trying fire mage and it feels pretty good but also fury warrior love the new attack animations.
They did a pretty revision of all classes that feel better and also i do not miss glyphs or other talents ,remember this back in 2005? Yeah fuck that 5 bars full with a warlock no thank you. Same goes towards all other classes there was to much and those old talent tree's they had there charm but also not good in anyway.
To me a class and build should be meaningful and fun to play with out to much buttons and cooldowns to keep track on.
You're joking, right? A lot of those abilities in those bars were incredibly situational and were pretty much placed there for the hell of it. All you used back then was Shadow Bolt and MAYBE Corruption (the debuff limit can rot in hell), and life tap when you're low on mana. Curse of Elements or Curse of Shadows lasted forever.
finalflame
Gold Member
So, GAF, if I wanna have great PVE experiences that aren't dungeons instead of jumping straight to level 100 or whatever, is this for me? Or is WOW a lost cause for complete newcomers?
Enhancement shaman seems pretty damn cool. Elemental shaman feels like it doesn't quite use maelstrom to its full potential. You need to pick Icefury to really get much use out of it.
Very excited for Legion. I've had to resist plowing too much time into beta; but not enough to get a 101 demon hunter. Which I feel is a bit shallow in rotation, but is a blast double jumping, gliding, and dashing.
Very excited for Legion. I've had to resist plowing too much time into beta; but not enough to get a 101 demon hunter. Which I feel is a bit shallow in rotation, but is a blast double jumping, gliding, and dashing.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
In Legion, there's world quests, class hall quests, etc to do at cap along with an ENTIRE ZONE, arguably the biggest in the game, only for story and PVE gameplay at the end (Suramar) for level 100s.
Wait for Legion. Warlords has nothing for you.
Mister_Bubbles
Member
Nice to see some positive vibes around this next expansion, sounds like it should be pretty cool.
So the quests are active? Lorde said in the legion video that they were gonna be activated in the next weeks.
ScatheZombie
Member
The problem is that you shouldn't feel bad about your class for 110 levels because the one thing that makes it all come together is locked until you've invested hours and hours into the character. Designing around final builds exclusively has always been an issue with large scale RPGs. If your character doesn't feel good at level 10, 20, 90, or any other level before you reach the 'end game' then there's a good chance that player will never reach the end game because they aren't enjoying their leveling experience.
And yet, that was the only time in the game's entire history where the player base grew between expansions rather than only spiking during their release. And while you remember 'the struggle', at least you actually remember something. Tell me something that's readily memorable about your time in Pandaria or WoD that remotely compares to the burned in memories of Vanilla and BC? Most players don't have any because those memories are built around the other people you were playing with. Without a strong community, you are relying on content to provide those moments. And that's a losing proposition for both players and content designers.
It's not really armchair quarterbacking when you're an actual quarterback. (MMO dev for 8 years in systems design) I didn't list a bunch of examples because I didn't want to have the inevitable nitpick fight - which is what always happens when a developer attempts to explain anything to a player. (EDIT: I realize this sounds way more condescending than I meant it to, sorry about that.) The solutions Blizzard provided, and the rest of the industry wholesale copied because most of them are creatively bankrupt, are just one solution. It's not inherently the best solution just because it was implemented in the most popular game. WoW has had a ton a missteps over the years. Missteps that other games have copied. Missteps that other games have had success with when WoW hasn't. LFG, Raid Finder, and Cross-Realm features aren't inherently bad, nor are they inherently good. It depends on the game they are implemented in and the details of their implementation. That said, convenience features like those can and do erode at the base of a server community. And the community is what keeps people playing the game - not a $40 box that makes all the numbers a tad bigger than they were last time.
Trust me, every MMO designer worth a damn knows this. And they do everything they can to try to build a community around their game and within their game. Because that's ultimately what decides whether you are successful or not. You can have garbage gameplay and garbage content compared to another product; but if you establish a community of core players, you will always have steady MAU. Hell, this is true in just about every other genre as well.
You are confusing mechanical refinement of core gameplay with introduction of convenience features. Class changes, combat changes, gameplay changes, etc. don't break your community. They get people all worked up about their character, their class, and their game experience. But they don't encourage people to play solo. They don't encourage people to forego building guilds. They don't encourage people to ignore their server community or reputation. They don't encourage people to refrain from communicating with other players because why bother, you won't ever see them again.
Do you see the difference I'm talking about?
Milly Osworth
Member
I feel like I'm not playing Wow anymore. The over the top animations, the ugly UI additions, the removing of most flavour and fun abilities. Blegh.
dangerskew
Member
Seriously. So far I'm leaving towards ditching my Prot Paladin main for my Prot Warrior this expansion, in part due to the badass new warrior animations.
It's a slow roll. Every week will be something new.
My friends are all getting excited or have all gone back. I'm interested but...I've never had a character to cap and I would be starting from 1. This worth trying at this point? I'm not too sure that I was going to get into Legion considering August has a lot of titles...
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Legion comes with a free 100 boost
With the purchase of Legion, you'll get to boost a character to level 100 for free.
Same thing here lol. I started playing my fury warr in the middle of MoP and then focused on him for the entirety of WoD, but I've been leaning towards switching to a mage I just leveled for Legion. Now with the new animations and changes to fury I'm having second thoughts.
Yeah, got that part. I just wasn't sure I was going to pick it up to begin with. Throw in the cost of a month (does xpac come with)?
Nah.
Now that I think about it, I don't think any of the expansions included a free month.
Welp, I'll see if my friends want to pitch in for me to play. lol Aug is a pricey month before a pricey month. @.@
TharpDaddy
Member
Damn, might need to dig out my Warrior and give him a try in that case. Haven't played him since Cata.
The most important point is that an item you've looted on a character is now shared across all your account. So if you found a nice looking 2h sword on your Human Warrior, your Orc DK will be able to transmog it.
Also, you won't need to keep the items in your bank or void storage. I freed a lot of space recently.
Lanrutcon
Member
Negative.
In order to unlock a transmog you need to have the item in your inventory, be able to equip it and have it be soulbound.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
My fury warrior feels like a whirlwind of death now. The brutal animations are awesome.
CraigerGamer
Member
So to get started and up to date...
It's $20 for the base game.
Then $15 for a sub
The $50 for the pre-purchase of the new expansion.
Am I missing something?
It's $20 for the base game.
Then $15 for a sub
The $50 for the pre-purchase of the new expansion.
Am I missing something?
Perfect Cha0s
Member
Base game comes with a month of game time.
NumberThree
Member
Been playing my enhancement shaman for a few days now getting used to the big changes, and I'm starting to feel a bit better about it. I still feel like they've removed a lot that made me feel like I was playing a shaman instead of just another melee class. So far the biggest annoyance to me is that Stormbringer only reduces Stormstrike cost by 50%. Sucks to see the proc indicator without being able to actually use Stormstrike. Crash Lightning's graphics and sound are really fucking good.
My assassination rogue seems to be doing more damage soloing with 20 lower item level, though.
My assassination rogue seems to be doing more damage soloing with 20 lower item level, though.