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Worst Blu Ray Transfers
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bananafactory
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The LOTR EE was an intentional design decision and not the result of a bad transfer or anything. I think Peter Jackson has even commented on it.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Jesus. That's... Holy shit.
All the animated examples in this thread are just incredible in how bad they are. What the hell man? It legitimately looks like someone opened each frame up in an image editor and clicked "reduce noise" a half-dozen times.
NOLA_Gaffer
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And Robin Hood.
Left is the DVD, right is the Blu-Ray.
DNR completely ruined that transfer.
The bigger (maybe equal, at least) crime is is the 16x9 cropping.
The fuck, man.
Viz's Sailor Moon Blu Rays.
Pics from two different episodes in the same box set.
Apparently Viz got their hands on the Japanese DVD masters, and thought they could make Blu Rays that were even better than the Japanese DVDs. The masters were interlaced. Someone at Viz asked "What's interlacing?" and someone else responded "Nothing our Blu Ray-generating computers can't handle."
"Aaaah!" Usagi exclaims as she wakes in Japan from her American nightmare.
Pics from two different episodes in the same box set.
Apparently Viz got their hands on the Japanese DVD masters, and thought they could make Blu Rays that were even better than the Japanese DVDs. The masters were interlaced. Someone at Viz asked "What's interlacing?" and someone else responded "Nothing our Blu Ray-generating computers can't handle."
"Aaaah!" Usagi exclaims as she wakes in Japan from her American nightmare.
Sweet Zombie Jesus! I didn't notice that before. It's a cardinal sin to crop this day and age. Cutting away assets, cutting away art. Absolutely disgusting.
This is the same problem with the current releases of DBZ. The Blu Ray's are all cropped to shit. In fact, it is pretty much impossible to get a version of the show anymore that isn't cropped or visually washed out/DNRed/fucked up in some other way. There was like one release put out a few years ago that was good, but it was a special limited edition and is a fortune to buy online.
True Savior
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Best gif I've seen in ages.
jadedm17
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Widescreen showing less image? Wow, that is pretty bad.
Gotta give them mouthbreathers a full 16:9 screen, yo.
Here's Spartacus, old vs new transfer.
http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=4868&d2=6603
Noisepurge
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there should be a warning list somewhere with DVD upscales being sold as Blurays...
NekoFever
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Transformers The Movie (1986) has a pretty terrible Blu-ray. The video's MPEG-2, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but is frequently a warning sign. It's cropped to 16:9 (admittedly how it was shown theatrically, but still), colours are weird, lossy audio, etc. I prefer to watch the 20th anniversary DVD.
DistortionOfReality
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Everyone in here complaining about a lack of grain, or slightly off colour shots, smh.
Try watching the Deadwood EU release. Audio sync is a way bigger issue than any of this grade school stuff
Try watching the Deadwood EU release. Audio sync is a way bigger issue than any of this grade school stuff
Transistor
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Ewwwww, looks like one of those shitty emulator filters
Freewheelin'
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Yeah this is one of the reasons why I haven't upgraded my DVD set yet. I'd buy it from America (supposedly, its the best version) but it's not region-free apparently -_-
And Robin Hood.
Left is the DVD, right is the Blu-Ray.
DNR completely ruined that transfer.
Wow. Looks like Disney ran those movies through a Photoshop filter.
Jzero
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Holy fuck this is terribad.
uncelestial
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When Qui-Gon did those ads for Oil of Olay
Sir_Crocodile
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Disney apparently love supersal lol
Rudimental
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Nope. I own the 3D version and it is the Madame Tussauds transfer. While the faces are super waxy, not helped by everyone constantly sweating, the jungle at least looks great.
Scorpion Soldier
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The issue with The Dark Knight is that they used the IMAX DMR master for the Blu-ray, which is absolutely fine for the IMAX scenes themselves, but the 35mm scenes look terrible on regular screens because they went through the DMR process for the 70mm conversion.
UnluckyKate
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Old Boy comes to my mind. Bad black, blurry, colors fading during night shots... It's distracting
-shadow-
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In defence of the cropping, the film was maybe shot full frame but wasn't meant for it. Theatrically it was being projected at around 1.75:1.
Still the fact there's no option to watch the full frame however is a waste. I personally prefer the movie in full frame myself.
Oveja Negra
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When buying online, from Amazon, for example, is there a way to know if you are buying a good or bad transfer? or is just a matter of luck?
Maybe there is some kind of database like ISBN for books that can help to identify a particular movie edition?
Maybe there is some kind of database like ISBN for books that can help to identify a particular movie edition?
Caps a holic has a comprehensive database of caps taken from different releases. They're one of the few reliable sources when it comes to caps.
Blu-ray.com are probably the best site for reviews, but since there are multiple reviewers (with varying standards) it isn't entirely consistent.
There also is dvdbeaver, but um, not reliable in terms of accuracy of caps or opinions. Pretty good for a quick look though.
Coreda
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There are numerous non-professional AviSynth restorations of old footage that are better than the examples in this thread. It's sad what passes for a release.
Cinematographical. Now there's a word an a half, haha. Giant gif but it's quality.
Hmm, really? Used to visit the site years ago and it had some superb comparisons and notes on both sound and video masterings.
Oveja Negra
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but it looks like someone rubbed their greasy ass all over the film. That is wretched.
The worst one I have, is the version of The Lost Highway I bought from Zavvi. It has a nice slipcover and everything, but the movie itself looks like garbage. Blurry, jumpy, etc. I guess it's an old transfer for DVD or something, but I like that movie a lot and think it deserves better. You can argue that the low quality adds to the uneasiness of the film, but I'd go to a VHS if I wanted that.
cj_iwakura
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What? I thought it looked great, is there a comparison?
Gary is notoriously bad at basically everything, his opinions are not reliable and neither is his caps. He fairly recently extolled the virtues of Criterion's original release of Dressed to Kill, a release so botched Criterion recalled it. Like I said, for a quick look it's fine but you shouldn't rely on it.
Coreda
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Could you explain what you mean by 'unreliable' screen caps? That the quality of the overall print isn't represented by the captures of certain releases? As those I've seen of various Kurosawa comparisons (High and Low for example) I found useful.
Well firstly what he posts are compressed jpegs so the compression already makes them not ideal, but more importantly his caps aren't accurate when it comes to colour. Most of the time it's small just discrepancies but when other, more reliable options, are available I see no reason to really recommend his site for anything other than quick looks.
edit: If we take a look at L'armée des ombres, it isn't a perfect match frame for frame but it's the best I could find; beaver, caps-a-holic. Not a huge difference but it's there.
Some movies like Fifth Element, Gangs of New York. Then you have others like the first release of Patton, which while being spectacular had ridiculous amounts of DNR. The newer version restores the grain of the original and you get a much better transfer.
I can't wait till UHD 4K and later 8K transfers. Will be a real jump from what we're seeing with 1080p Blu-ray and we'll hopefully get quality transfers and masters. Phantom Menace is kind of shitty with the DNR as well. It was the last film shot Star Wars movie, but Lucas wanted the image to look like the later digital ones, but you get a washed out and smooth transfer that just doesn't look good.
He was trying to save face and to prevent fans from not buying the new extended versions. The EE release has been some of the laziest work I've seen in a long time, Peter Jackson is one of those directors who seldom cares about home video the way he does theatrical. Yes he wanted the Shire especially to match how it would look in The Hobbit, but I refuse to believe the end result is what he strove for. Everything from the opening title to closing credits have the green tint filter applied.
Watch as any future release of Fellowship has the color corrected again.
I can't wait till UHD 4K and later 8K transfers. Will be a real jump from what we're seeing with 1080p Blu-ray and we'll hopefully get quality transfers and masters. Phantom Menace is kind of shitty with the DNR as well. It was the last film shot Star Wars movie, but Lucas wanted the image to look like the later digital ones, but you get a washed out and smooth transfer that just doesn't look good.
He was trying to save face and to prevent fans from not buying the new extended versions. The EE release has been some of the laziest work I've seen in a long time, Peter Jackson is one of those directors who seldom cares about home video the way he does theatrical. Yes he wanted the Shire especially to match how it would look in The Hobbit, but I refuse to believe the end result is what he strove for. Everything from the opening title to closing credits have the green tint filter applied.
Watch as any future release of Fellowship has the color corrected again.
He's exaggerating, but there are definitely some flaws that may or may not be inherent to the film source.
The film will be re-released on Blu-ray next week and the product description suggests that further restoration work has been done. Preview pictures and a comment made by a Bandai Visual rep seem to suggest that it's also gonna be uncensored this time.
Beer Monkey
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I remember this in the component video revolution aka DVD and 480i/480p/960i type sets, also some rear projection D-ILA and DLP (usually at 768p) that this was so much the case, not just in the DVDs but also in the display devices, which often threw additional DNR and edge enhancement on top of the content being played.
So many in the home theater / AVS community believed that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and discrete 1080p devices would save us.
We were very wrong
So many in the home theater / AVS community believed that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and discrete 1080p devices would save us.
We were very wrong
Disney is absolutely terrible in their handling of their old catalog releases. They can't fucking help themselves. And the worst thing is sometimes so-called "professional" blu-ray reviewers don't even call them out on their bullshit, and even grant them perfect scores on video quality, such as their Sleeping Beauty release, which also suffered from DNR.
Look at the line art. Ruined. 5/5!
Anyway, as far as worst transfers go, here's Interstella 5555:
Master and Commander is not quite part of the worst transfers ever, but it really annoys me how soft and blurry the image looks.
Look at the line art. Ruined. 5/5!
Anyway, as far as worst transfers go, here's Interstella 5555:
Absolute junk.
Master and Commander is not quite part of the worst transfers ever, but it really annoys me how soft and blurry the image looks.
Nick Laslett
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The green tint on FOTR EE has a silver lining for me as it was my first steps towards learning AVISynth.
Over on the AVS Forum, there is a very, very, very long thread about FOTR EE colour timing changes. Anyway, someone was kind enough to upload an AVISynth script to revert the colour timing closer to the original version. You apply the script to a Bluray rip, so there is practically no loss of quality. This is the version of FOTR EE, I have used ever since. And my Introduction to AVISynth was worth the effort.
AVS Forum Thread
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/150-blu-ray-software/1307189-lord-rings-extended-142.html
Poster:You_Too at 08-19-2011, 06:02 PM
Over on the AVS Forum, there is a very, very, very long thread about FOTR EE colour timing changes. Anyway, someone was kind enough to upload an AVISynth script to revert the colour timing closer to the original version. You apply the script to a Bluray rip, so there is practically no loss of quality. This is the version of FOTR EE, I have used ever since. And my Introduction to AVISynth was worth the effort.
AVS Forum Thread
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/150-blu-ray-software/1307189-lord-rings-extended-142.html
Poster:You_Too at 08-19-2011, 06:02 PM
George Oscar Bluth II
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I remember loads of people raving about the Sleeping Beauty BD. I saw the screenshots sometime later and was wondering how high these people were.
Also the colours in Cinderella look different to how I remember them:
NekoFever
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To be fair, I'd say the baseline standard of a video transfer is dramatically better these days than it was in the DVD era. You're much more likely to find a random movie looking decent than you were back then.
But FOTREE doesn't just have a generic green filter that's applied equally throughout the entire picture. I imagine some scenes in your "fixed" version look odd.
sixteen-bit
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one of the early 5th element releases were bad if i remember correctly
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