ConsumerSquare
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I'm just going to stop buying this shit until the end of the life cycle. These hardware revisions are getting ridiculous.
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Xbox 360 internal HD-DVD drive *is* coming?
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Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
I dont have a 360. Id get one of these.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
JoJo13 said:
Wow indeed. This thread isn't going down a hill, it's jumping off a cliff into a horse's anus and hitting jagged rocks along the way.
Beer Monkey
Member
This will hurt the Xbox 360 just like the Panasonic Q hurt the GameCube, the Pioneer LaserActive hurt the Genesis, and the 'PSX' hurt the PS2.
Game over, Microsoft.
Game over, Microsoft.
Mark Gonzales
Banned
Yep..and most people think Sony steals ideas. This is a pathetic attempt by MS to use HD-DVD as a bullet point for the console.
VictimOfGrief
Banned
go back to the ballpit please.Luckyman said:
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
DCharlie said:
I ask questions because I was never a Xbox owner. I don't know what it's like to own a 360.
meh, I have as long as developers don't design games around that SKU configuration then I couldn't care less.
Though I do see how people would have liked this option earlier, but how financially feasible would that have been? With the price of HD-DVD drives and HDD's... it would have probably costed more than a ps3 had it came out last year.
Though I do see how people would have liked this option earlier, but how financially feasible would that have been? With the price of HD-DVD drives and HDD's... it would have probably costed more than a ps3 had it came out last year.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Mark Gonzales said:
Not you again!
::Throws laptop on the floor and elbow drops it::
Morbid Angel
Member
JoJo13 said:
MS will release a 250 gig hard drive for $99 and open up the floodgates for HD downloading/digital downloading of games before they release games on HD DVD. the writing is on the wall for the future of media already. I laugh at all the fools getting all riled up about BR and HD DVD options. If both options fail to capture the masses, which they are looking to be doing as of now, who's in the better position to deal with it? MICROSOFT. they havent shoved an unproven costly format in their box and they arent forcing it inside of a machine whos main purpose is to play GAMES.
Mark Gonzales
Banned
Bud said:
Yeah. Trolling is saying this is a horrible idea :lol Get a clue.
*sigh* Maybe someone needs to finally say it, but the two systems are gonna be using completely different formats, so they'll never be bit-identical, no matter what. So despite having a larger OS, there's no telling what the rest of the game code requires, what kind of compression each system employs or what the ratios of various types of data are gonna be. IOW, it's a complete crapshoot claiming that there's less texture data, and this is ignoring that we're talking about a rumor.hadareud said:
The other thing is that with HDD being standard, devs can write engines that use a more dynamic texture cache b/c it will be much easier to stream that stuff from an HDD than a DVD. But hey, this is Major Nelson levels of FUD we're talking about here. PEACE.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
qcf x2 said:
Okay that's not nice.
And **** this is an ugly bastard. What is it from?
What is this thing winds up being the same price with a Direct TV membership? Or they rent the 360 to you month to month like cable companies do with their DVR's? Could wind up being a very clever way of getting casuals on board gaming.
Sadly I live in a condo and can't get direct TV, but if Time Warner signed a similar deal where I could use my 360 as my cable box, DVR, game system, HDDVD movie player and link up with Windows Vista as a media center I would jump all the hell over that.
What would keep me from jumping on board is my wait and see approach to this HD format war.
Sadly I live in a condo and can't get direct TV, but if Time Warner signed a similar deal where I could use my 360 as my cable box, DVR, game system, HDDVD movie player and link up with Windows Vista as a media center I would jump all the hell over that.
What would keep me from jumping on board is my wait and see approach to this HD format war.
plagiarize
Banned
Braindead AKA Dead Alive (in the US).mckmas8808 said:Okay that's not nice.
And **** this is an ugly bastard. What is it from?
great film if you haven't seen it. really over the top gory comedy type horror film. early Peter 'Lord of the Rings' Jackson film.
If you could use a singly hybrid disc, then you wouldn't even need the HD-DVD layer. The game would have to be small enough to fit on a single DVD in the first place, otherwise it would be a multi-disc game and written accordingly. The comparison to 32X and SegaCD come to mind, but only if MS makes the mistake of putting games on the format. Otherwise, it's just another accessory, and not a big deal. The new SKU is more a marketing mess than anything. PEACE.chinch said:
Lortnoc Egamad
Banned
"Black Xbox 360
250 GB HDD
Developed by Directv and Microsoft
HDMI built in
Integrated Wireless Support
Built in HD-DVD Player
Priced within $100 of the $599 PS3"
So tell me if I got it right, same M$ that sells wi-fi adapter and 20 GB HDD for 99$, and HD-DVD drive for around 200$, will now offer this much for such low price? I sure feel screwed with my X360 premium purchase if that's true, and I would feel screwed by SONY if I'd buy PS3 already.
250 GB HDD
Developed by Directv and Microsoft
HDMI built in
Integrated Wireless Support
Built in HD-DVD Player
Priced within $100 of the $599 PS3"
So tell me if I got it right, same M$ that sells wi-fi adapter and 20 GB HDD for 99$, and HD-DVD drive for around 200$, will now offer this much for such low price? I sure feel screwed with my X360 premium purchase if that's true, and I would feel screwed by SONY if I'd buy PS3 already.
artful_dodger
Member
Oh man...MS the new Sega. :lol
Effulgence
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I love how people have already determined how Microsoft is going to market this after reading a one sentence mention of the manufacturing of the console. I dont think any of us know whether this is going to replace the Core SKU or if its going to be a specialized console like the PSX.
Im pretty sure everyone can agree that if its going to replace the Core SKU then Microsoft is going to make HD-DVD games at some point.
Im pretty sure everyone can agree that if its going to replace the Core SKU then Microsoft is going to make HD-DVD games at some point.
Effulgence
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Lortnoc Egamad said:
I would take "Priced within $100 of the $599 PS3" to mean it costs $699.
Lortnoc Egamad
Banned
Yes, which means that it would be the most valuable option available.Effulgence said:
250GB HDD, HD-DVD player, built in wi-fi - the only thing it lacks when compared to PS3 premium pack are flash memory slots.
Please M$ make it so I can have this multimedia monster under my TV.
Oh wow, 4 pages of FUD about an unconfirmed rumor. What a surprise. This is like yesterday when a single piece of software having a squished font turned into a hardware bash-fest/HDTV panic party.
Anyway, here's your morning shot of facts:
* MS is not making HD DVD a requirement for games.
* Halo 3 will not require a freaking HD DVD drive.
* The end.
Anyway, here's your morning shot of facts:
* MS is not making HD DVD a requirement for games.
* Halo 3 will not require a freaking HD DVD drive.
* The end.
thirty said:
Yes, because I enjoy spending 18 hours downloading a 15GB movie, and only being able to store 15 movies on my HDD before deleting some.
A 'disc player' sitting under your TV is *way* more user friendly to the mass market than downloading. Not everyone is leet like you.
HD/bluray will replace DVD, and will probably not need replacing. So it will eventually become the standard for your home collection.
*eventually*, video on demand will eventually become a popular way of watching movies. possibly including push-VOD where the movie is downloaded to a STB overnight without you doing anything. But even current PPV isn't huge compared to DVD purchases, so people like real discs.
Lortnoc Egamad
Banned
Woah sarcasm FTW.PipBoy said:
I'm pretty sure that PS3 won't launch at lees than 599$, and that X360 premium won't suddenly drop price to 249$.
I just want to repeat that I don't understand why MS didn't steer clear of the next gen media issue altogether. They had taken the high road, and when the backlash happened about Sony's pricing they should have jumped on this pr miracle and run with it. The way they seem so intent on "playing catch-up" and making this an issue just adds fuel to the fire that Sony had the right idea going with a next gen format. I don't believe this, but it is the perception that they are giving. MS current sales results should be convincing them that gamers want less expensive game machines, not all-in-wonder super boxes for HDTV's.
****ing idiots. Run with your advantages don't shit on them.
****ing idiots. Run with your advantages don't shit on them.
More like, please don't do anything that ****s up the potential success of the system, because I would like the 360 to be successful. Dual-SKU is a difficult proposition, IMO. Triple-SKU? Toss in the holiday bundle and you're quad-SKU. Talk about messing up you marketing message. Barfalona indeed.sangreal said:
sol_bad said:
The primary reason is that is forces Sony to commit even more to Blu-Ray. Sony is being backed into a corner now, they have very little wiggle room. Because of the format war (largely instigated and validated by Microsoft), they have had to make commitments to Blu-Ray that put them at the point of no return a long time ago. If there was no such thing as HD DVD or if it was not seen as a valid competitor, then there would be very little urgency for Sony to put Blu-Ray into the PS3 (or they could delay the launch of the console even more).
Its like the arms race between the US and the USSR during the cold war. Lots of talk, lots of posturing, and eventually one side collapses under the weight of all the commitments they have made but cannot deliver on.
Stinkles said:
Not a requirement, but if a developer would choose to also make a HD DVD as a second version is this possible? I'm seriousssssss here. I don't care about all the complainers, I'll buy a single disc HD DVD game instead of a two disc DVD game and it would help me make the push to buy a HD DVD drive.
i remember the good ol' days when you went to go buy a console you only had a choice of console "X". now it's console "X1", "X2" "X2.5", "X2.5 Revised". i feel so ripped off now. HD-DVD should have been inlcuded from the get go. and as much as many of you will deny it, their trying to play catch up with Sony.