You do of course realise that without marketing, nothing you like would exist, right?
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Xbox One has no ads on the home screen (still has content promotion)
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You do of course realise that without marketing, nothing you like would exist, right?
He never said that it was a bad thing. Hell, even Nintendo's doing it. I'm surprised Sony didn't find a way to do it with its XMB 2.0 UI for the PS4. Maybe it'll give you recommendations if you scroll on over to the PS Store.
Garrett 2U
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Who knows what the UI will look like at launch.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I use Tomato yes but anything that supports DNSmasq would be fine
address=/rad.msn.com/192.168.0.254
address=/rpt.rad.msn.com/192.168.0.254
address=/msnvidweb.vo.msecnd.net/192.168.0.254
(the 192.168.0.254 is a dummy address, forward to any dummy address to block)
Freezie KO
Banned
Yes. I read GAF enough to get video game recommendations, and I don't want a video game console recommending me music and certainly not films. "Here's the latest shitty fucking blockbuster because you played a game of Call of Duty."
At the very least, you should be able to eliminate it. If you can't, they're advertising to you.
Random Eclipse
Banned
I think they mean no ads in the form of a Ford car promotion or a Burger King commercial.
Promotional content is somewhat different, as it is still "ads", but as long as its related to a service or content available on the console, and i dont have to click on it, i do not see the problem at all. (Atleast for me)
This is not nearly as bad or gross of a practice as having non-related ads like McDonalds on the dashboard.
Promotional content is somewhat different, as it is still "ads", but as long as its related to a service or content available on the console, and i dont have to click on it, i do not see the problem at all. (Atleast for me)
This is not nearly as bad or gross of a practice as having non-related ads like McDonalds on the dashboard.
Iced_Eagle
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I guess I just disagree. I would gladly have this than have it show me car ads, which is the biggest complaint with the 360.
Obviously the recommendations is going to be different for everyone. I assume that if you're someone who does nothing but play games, it will only show game advertisements on the side. Would you be okay with that, or is it still bad because they're showing you something?
ScrabbleDude
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What if ads for snack wraps were relevant to you? Would that mean they're not ads? Recommendations that you purchase content you don't have is a form of direct marketing -- which is a form of advertisement.
That aside, the blades on 360 didn't have ads when the 360 launched either. There's nothing saying that this won't become completely clogged with ads.
Fleshfeast
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To me, an advertisement is telling me about a product or service that someone wants me to spend money on. If I click on Star Trek, Rihanna, or Deadmou5, will I be able to watch the movie and listen to the music all for free? No? Sounds like an ad to me.
Yea, wth
It's not bad at all. Like i said, i find it kind of useful when there are ads for things available on the store. I have no problem with it.
But to say "there are no ads on this page" isn't correct. There are clearly ads there
Robot Pants
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Will doing this make the dashboard load faster?
The nice thing about the Nintendo one is it only promotes games that people are playing. They could make it really awesome if they just blacklisted TVii and the other streaming services from it, because those are always going to be in the top rotation due to the fact that they're essentially video players. It'd be like MS letting Windows Media Player bubble to the top.
Is Rihanna a new alien species Abrams introduced into the Star Trek canon?
And we're done here...
And soooo much this. Remember what the original XBox dash looked like? It sure didn't stay that way.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
well, no, because ads weren't slowing down the dashboard to begin with.
dr3upmushroom
Banned
Nothing, huh?
lensoftruth
Member
I think we can mostly agree that these ads are OK? TBH I wouldn't touch a system with an OS like that, unless the adds where removed with subscription which will never happen.
I don't think Sony will ever do this as they have too much class and Nintendo think it's completely against everything they strive for - which is fun, but make money.
Robot Pants
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Well damn. Why is that dashboard so friggin slow
Ravensmash
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I know this was touched on before, but those are content promotion tiles directly linking to content available on the xbox marketplace.
It's equivalent to the BBC being ad-free yet running promotional material for their own content.
Then again I've always seen the ad complaint to be a rather feeble reason to criticise Xbox Live - always unobtrusive and often informative.
Edit: Heck, you can argue that the content promotion ads are actually beneficial to the developers/publishers because they alert people to their content directly on the service. There IS a difference between advertising a movie/game available on demand and going on about a McDonald's burger.
It's equivalent to the BBC being ad-free yet running promotional material for their own content.
Then again I've always seen the ad complaint to be a rather feeble reason to criticise Xbox Live - always unobtrusive and often informative.
Edit: Heck, you can argue that the content promotion ads are actually beneficial to the developers/publishers because they alert people to their content directly on the service. There IS a difference between advertising a movie/game available on demand and going on about a McDonald's burger.
IdreamofHIME
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Advertising is making the consumer aware of a product, I see 3 advertisements on that screen.
They're not for McDonalds or Pizza Hut, but they're still advertising something.
They're not for McDonalds or Pizza Hut, but they're still advertising something.
Iced_Eagle
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No, that's not what I mean. What they're putting in those 3 tiles is something that is available on the Xbox ecosystem. Movies, music, games. You can't download a Snackwrap (yet...), but I can download a deadmau5 album on the Xbox.
Oh, and I agree it could change over time. After all, the 360 has had like 3 or 4 overhauls.
By your definition though, the 360 did launch with ads (that PGR3 image was the ad).
Going by everyone's definition, the WiiU home screen is filled with ads though.
All of those are games that I may not necessarily own, therefore they are ads. But as I said, I am perfectly okay with that, as long as it's advertising me content on the system, and not snack wraps.
Flatline
Banned
Sure, if I go into, say, the store front. That's the place for them. Like on Wii U, 3DS, PS3, Vita, iPhone, iPad etc.
But not having ads (recommendations or whatever) bombard me when at the home screen / in game / using apps etc.
You don't want to be drawing max power on a menu.
I mean.. they could make it fast, but the 360 would go to jet engine speeds as they use complete overkill on rendering it.
What if it recommends things you're actually interested in, based on how you use the console?
It really isn't.
MS aren't promoting their own content here and I doubt they're promoting other peoples content for free.
ScrabbleDude
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Do you have to pay an additional fee to access that BBC content? Is the XBox Marketplace giving this content away for free?
lensoftruth
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You what? I got Commander Keen, Wolfenstein and Doom from a BBS for free, with no marketing whatever and they defined a the home computer gaming generation and also the dominant genre off our current casual market.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
No, that's not what I mean. What they're putting in those 3 tiles is something that is available on the Xbox ecosystem. Movies, music, games. You can't download a Snackwrap (yet...), but I can download a deadmau5 album on the Xbox.
Oh, and I agree it could change over time. After all, the 360 has had like 3 or 4 overhauls.
By your definition though, the 360 did launch with ads (that PGR3 image was the ad).
Advertising the game in the the tray?
Viruz
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What about neogaf?
lol
thekonamicode
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And they will eventually be for McDonalds and Pizza Hut, or a car.
Flatline
Banned
ScrabbleDude
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That PGR image was the game in the system.
out0v0rder
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neither did the 360 at launch, right?
Ravensmash
Member
dr3upmushroom
Banned
No, that's not what I mean. What they're putting in those 3 tiles is something that is available on the Xbox ecosystem. Movies, music, games. You can't download a Snackwrap (yet...), but I can download a deadmau5 album on the Xbox.
Oh, and I agree it could change over time. After all, the 360 has had like 3 or 4 overhauls.
By your definition though, the 360 did launch with ads (that PGR3 image was the ad).
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That's the game that's currently in the system.
Mass Effect
Member
Yes. I don't need companies telling me what want or like all the time. If it's on the store page, fine, but I don't need them on the home page.
It's the same if they were to put ads on my desktop when I turn on my PC.
valkillmore
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First reply. Last reply.
mightynine
Member
Fucking Netflix, where the recommendations don't send me to a buy screen.
Then that's great, they should put those recommendations in the store so I can look at them when I'm looking to buy something.
Putting it on the dashboard however is trying to sell me something when I'm not looking to buy something, and I don't want that.
I'm not horrified by it, but microsoft saying there are no ads on the home screen is simply a lie. All ads are targeted now. Just because it says "recommended" doesn't mean it's not an ad. I honestly don't see how it's better than a car advertisement being there. It's the same exact thing to me.
What if, hypothetically, they're not even paid? What if it recommends a sportX game that is currently airing on the ESPN app because I watch sportX? What if it recommends newly released DLC for a game that I own and play? What if it knows I watched Arrested Development so when the new season is out, there's a convenient link on the main page that takes me straight to it on Netflix?
I'm not saying that's the case, because I don't know, but what if it was?
Uno Venova
Banned
Still ads but less ads than last time I guess.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Well alot of people see this as a negative thing. I have no problem with it as right there you can still press A and start playing your game.
What if I recommend you something based upon the posts of yours I've read and my guess at your taste in products?
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