SEGAvangelist
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Lists are very awesome. It shows how much wrong a company can do in one year.
Was just making a list wars joke. You know people mean 'bidness when the lists come out.
Lists are very awesome. It shows how much wrong a company can do in one year.
Dude, please.....
I see how all Xbox Supporters here on gaf are saluting/quoting him etc.
But are you really wondering why a lot of people don't believe anything what he/MS says?
Have you listened to all the MS statements in the last couple of months, since the XBone unveil?
Have you heard that "Powah of the Cloud = 40x Xbox360" crap?
Have you seen the "Angry Joe/Major Nelson" incident?
Have you seen the "...Mattrick/buy a Xbox 360" video?
Have you seen that tweet of Aaron Greenberg regarding the XBone delay in europe, minutes prior the Xbone delay announcement?
Have you seen the "deal with it / why would I live there" tweet of the (now ex) MS exployee Adam Orth.
Have you seen the fake Kinect presentation during the XBone/E3 conference, with the clicker/switch inside the pocket/hands of the MS employee, showing us how "fast" Kinect reacts?
Have you seen their "204 GB/s ESRAM bandwith nonsense?
Remember all the DRM stuff a couple of months ago?
Remember the NSA stuff from their main department?
Should I go on with my list?
How come whenever I read a comment like that, I look at the profile and there is nothing there except a single PSN name?
There is no evidence in the contrary, it's all baseless speculation.
How come whenever I read a comment like that, I look at the profile and there is nothing there except a single PSN name?
There is no evidence in the contrary, it's all baseless speculation.
Ahem...
http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/2013/8/27/microsoft_lowers_xbox_one_shipment_forecast.htm
CBOAT strikes again.
And do you remember this ?
PS3 Presentation by Sony
I bet you don't.
What is your point ? Corporations lie, yes they do, they all do ...
And for now in term of lying PS3 is still the King in my agenda.
And do you remember this ?
I bet you don't.
What is your point ? Corporations lie, yes they do, they all do ...
And for now in term of lying PS3 is still the King in my agenda.
First: Am I talking about SONY/PS3 here?And do you remember this ?
PS3 Presentation by Sony
I bet you don't.
What is your point ? Corporations lie, yes they do, they all do ...
And for now in term of lying PS3 is still the King in my agenda.
Just so you know.
That video is full of mistakes.
Well that says submitted 23rd July which is after the PS4 - that says submitted 22nd July, and Albert is claiming it went through earlier than the PS4.I wish Albert had given the FCC ID number for the xbox one the closest I can find is https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...mFrame=N&application_id=333860&fcc_id=C3K1537 and funny enough its confidentiality only lasts until November 21. Anyway that would prove the date.
Wow. My grip on truthfulness was that tenuous?
Perhaps, it could be taken at face value that we are telling the truth. I havent been up here posting spin or BS. Ive been pushing hard to be transparent in how we talk about whats going on with the platform. And Im clear when I cant comment on things.
Yet, somehow since this truth doesnt jibe with the popular belief online, we are being dishonest. I get that weve had a rough few months, but at some point Id like to think we get the benefit of the doubt, at least on things that make sense logically. You know, Occams Razor and such.
Heres truth:
There never has been any sort of yield or performance issues with our GPU/ESRAM/KINECT/ETC. Its simply not true, and Ive heard the rumors online so often I actually went to the silicon engineers to ask them again. Our HW program (knock-on-wood) has been on schedule and again, weve had the opportunity to increase performance even later in the program. You dont have yield issues then upgrade the clock speed by 6%. Again, simple logic here.
Second, if we were having yield issues why did our country delay not include markets like the US, Canada, or UK? Those represent the vast majority of our volumes. Anyone can look at GFK Chart-Track and see the volumes in the regions that slipped. Heres an assignment for the GAF Detectives: go look at historical sell-thru rates of consoles by region, then tell me what percentage of global consoles sales were represented by those affected markets. (hint: its a small percentage). Each and every region is important to us, dont get me wrong, but anyone can look at those numbers and deduce it has nothing to do with volume.
Im going to state it again, just like I said here and to OXM: The delay was localization related. Besides needing local language support, we also need to prop-up local Live, Apps, a Marketplace, and a variety of other services. We bundle that together as localization in messaging, but there is more to shipping in a region then text and voice translation. The offset to that, like weve said, X1 is region free and while thats slightly more inconvenient, it will still allow people in the local countries to enjoy launch. Again, not something wed be promoting if we were having issues with volume.
Im certainly not going to change everyones mind, I get that. And I know there is tendency to believe there are many more diabolical things going on behind the scenes. In this case, we are being fully transparent. And FYI we passed FCC certification back in early summer, before PS4.
Lastly anything that was shown on a box, was shown on near-final retail HW. Our Dev Kits and Retail Units are the same.
Albert spoonful of sugar Penello
Wait, Brazil is in the list of 2013 countries, but Portugal isn't? And they say its a language issue?Brasil, Tier 1.
Portugal, language issues.
Wait, Brazil is in the list of 2013 countries, but Portugal isn't? And they say its a language issue?
Hahaha
NO. There are localisation issues. Please read what Albert Penello posted in this very thread. The localisation includes country specific services as an example.
NO. There are localisation issues. Please read what Albert Penello posted in this very thread. The localisation includes country specific services as an example.
Here's the thing though: Microsoft has had built in voice recognition for a number of products for years. Windows XP/Vista/7/8, Windows Phone, Kinect 1, etc. If anyone should have solved these problems by now it's MS.
Here's the thing though: Microsoft has had built in voice recognition for a number of products for years. Windows XP/Vista/7/8, Windows Phone, Kinect 1, etc. If anyone should have solved these problems by now it's MS.
This isn't an infallible source.
This. People want to cover their ears and act as if something fishy isn't going on. I'm sure Albert is a great guy, but coming in here and trying to feed us information especially after the mess with the Astroturfers isn't doing him any favors. Now we have these reports too? Yeah, I'm taking everything he says with a grain of salt until launch or more clarifications from other sources.
If the reports are true, 6.2 mio consoles instead of 7m doesn't sound like production problems. The 360 sold about 8 mio in the first year (which they pushed up to 10 with channel stuffing). 6m launch consoles sounds huge. With 1m per month (12m in the first year) they'd need to produce 6 month in advance. Maybe a little bit less, but you usually can't scale production that easily.
Who ever even expected them to ship 6-7 million units in 2013? That's just crazy. It makes the whole thing sound less plausible.
Who ever even expected them to ship 6-7 million units in 2013? That's just crazy. It makes the whole thing sound less plausible.
If that is indeed the only reason I do have to wonder however why it took them so long to realize they are not gonna make it in all these markets. Somebody made a huge blunder, that's for sure.Again. Albert isn't solely talking about language issues. They want to have a feature-rich ecosystem for every country.
Maybe they couldn't get the required deals for that in time.
Like I said. The truth of launch will put this to rest. There would be no benefit to me entering this thread unless I was confident it could be proven beyond my own word.
The continuous propagation of the same rumor does not make it a new rumor. The China news thing is wrong, of course, like the other rumors are wrong. They have no source. Its just the same rumor making the rounds.
My source = me. Thats all I can rely on, my knowledge of whats going on internally.
Now, you could call me a BIASED source, but short of me showing documents or email strings or other evidence that of course I could never disclose, its basically my word against the rumors. And even if I did show something, it would be dismissed.
At any rate, I will continue to post as long as Im welcome.
ALBOAT dropping truthfacts
Like I said. The truth of launch will put this to rest. There would be no benefit to me entering this thread unless I was confident it could be proven beyond my own word.
The continuous propagation of the same rumor does not make it a new rumor. The China news thing is wrong, of course, like the other rumors are wrong. They have no source. Its just the same rumor making the rounds.
My source = me. Thats all I can rely on, my knowledge of whats going on internally.
Now, you could call me a BIASED source, but short of me showing documents or email strings or other evidence that of course I could never disclose, its basically my word against the rumors. And even if I did show something, it would be dismissed.
At any rate, I will continue to post as long as Im welcome.
Like I said. The truth of launch will put this to rest. There would be no benefit to me entering this thread unless I was confident it could be proven beyond my own word.
The continuous propagation of the same rumor does not make it a new rumor. The China news thing is wrong, of course, like the other rumors are wrong. They have no source. It’s just the same rumor making the rounds.
My source = me. That’s all I can rely on, my knowledge of what’s going on internally.
Now, you could call me a BIASED source, but short of me showing documents or email strings or other evidence that of course I could never disclose, it’s basically my word against the rumors. And even if I did show something, it would be dismissed.
At any rate, I will continue to post as long as I’m welcome.
If the reports are true, 6.2 mio consoles instead of 7m doesn't sound like production problems. The 360 sold about 8 mio in the first year (which they pushed up to 10 with channel stuffing). 6m launch consoles sounds huge. With 1m per month (12m in the first year) they'd need to produce 6 month in advance. Maybe a little bit less, but you usually can't scale production that easily.
been said before, but they are likely talking about fiscal 2013... which extends several months into 2014My bad, I read this http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130827PB201.html wrong, it's the forecast for 2013 and for the launch. But 6m in 2013 sounds still like big numbers and not like problems.
Article's bullshit. If they knew they were guaranteed 6 million units they would have launched in all 21 countries.
You don't speak for me or anyone else. I believe Penello's word over unsourced rumors.Noone here has any reason to believe a single word of what you say.
Yep, because MS was so honest lately.You don't speak for me or anyone else. I believe Penello's word over unsourced rumors.
Like I said. The truth of launch will put this to rest. There would be no benefit to me entering this thread unless I was confident it could be proven beyond my own word.
The continuous propagation of the same rumor does not make it a new rumor. The China news thing is wrong, of course, like the other rumors are wrong. They have no source. Its just the same rumor making the rounds.
My source = me. Thats all I can rely on, my knowledge of whats going on internally.
Now, you could call me a BIASED source, but short of me showing documents or email strings or other evidence that of course I could never disclose, its basically my word against the rumors. And even if I did show something, it would be dismissed.
At any rate, I will continue to post as long as Im welcome.
MS is not a person posting with us here at GAF.Yep, because MS was so honest lately.
Why wouldn't you be welcome to post here.
You should understand why noone will believe a single word out of MS's mouth anymore though after the recent events, the boy who cried wolf and all that.
Noone here has any reason to believe a single word of what you say.
Albert Penello said:Like I said. The truth of launch will put this to rest.
Why wouldn't you be welcome to post here.
You should understand why noone will believe a single word out of MS's mouth anymore though after the recent events, the boy who cried wolf and all that.
Noone here has any reason to believe a single word of what you say.
Can you comment on the rumour that the DRM (Online check-in etc) MS had planned to include at launch will be re-introduced at a later date and will even affect consoles bought just now without the DRM in the form of a forced update.
Is there a rumour about that?
Like I said. The truth of launch will put this to rest. There would be no benefit to me entering this thread unless I was confident it could be proven beyond my own word.
Like I said. The truth of launch will put this to rest. There would be no benefit to me entering this thread unless I was confident it could be proven beyond my own word.
The continuous propagation of the same rumor does not make it a new rumor. The China news thing is wrong, of course, like the other rumors are wrong. They have no source. Its just the same rumor making the rounds.
My source = me. Thats all I can rely on, my knowledge of whats going on internally.
Now, you could call me a BIASED source, but short of me showing documents or email strings or other evidence that of course I could never disclose, its basically my word against the rumors. And even if I did show something, it would be dismissed.
At any rate, I will continue to post as long as Im welcome.
Is there a rumour about that?
The problem here is that you are unable to provide proof that what you say is true.
Likewise that chinese article also has no proof wether it is real or not.
So it ends up your word vs chinese article and since neither of you can
Show proof on GAF that shows the other side iq lying your word alone here is meaningless just as much as that article.
I think MS want to use server-side voice recognition like siri with their always online console, but after their 180 on DRM they must implement offline voice recognition and it too late to support 21 countries at launche.
I don't see you eating it up and you're 'Gaf' too right?Yet GAF eats up that article as truth.