We'll have to wait and see. I personally think it will sell systems but not as much as it would if it was a true exclusive to the the Xbox One. I think Halo 5 will sell way more Xbox One systems than Titanfall.
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Xbox One sells one million+ (sell through to consumers) in all territories worldwide
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ChosenPredator
Banned
your probably right but that is a lethal combination Halo/Titanfall it makes it desirable for those guys who love those type of games to pick up the system
Katana_Strikes
Member
I honestly don't know what we'll see. I'm sure the UK got a good chunk of the European shipments but if ~700k went to the US then we might only be looking at ~100k or 150k tops perhaps. I'm not sure if it can beat the PS3 home console record though I'm sure MS might have aimed to try if they were able to get that many here.
It's not the only game. There are more games coming out to the Xbox One in 2014 that are potential system sellers.
Just because a game isn't exclusive doesn't mean that it can't sell a particular system. Heck, the majority of top 10 game sales are usually filled multiplats (with multiple console versions being listed -- sometimes even cross gen).
We are just going to have to wait and see. All I know is that I'm positive MS will have some huge ads for it. They have the money.
I think you are right since Halo 5 will be a true exclusive and I'm also expecting the Xbox One to be $400 by Xmas 2014.
NoirVisage
Banned
Titanfall isn't 2 games deep yet, stop being absurd.
Not everyone wants to dive into a brand new series with no proxy to learn and adapt through while mastering the basic controls..
call of duty modern warfares single player campaign was glorious for so many reasons, one of which was its effectiveness as a gateway drug to competitive online.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Infamous will be as good a system seller as Titanfall. Gran Turismo 7 and the next Uncharted will be better.
It will sell systems but nowhere near as many as Call Of Duty. It's a new, unproven IP. Maybe people don't want Call of Duty with mechs? Maybe they'd rather play COD.
My point is that there is too much faith being placed on Titanfall to be Microsofts trump card. By the time Titanfall becomes a true system seller, it'll be a multiplatform franchise.
Casuals won't buy an XB1 for Titanfall. They'll get it on their 360. The hardcore will have already gotten an Xbox One by the time Titanfall comes out. Titanfall may already be selling systems.
GT7 will fucking explode on PS4.
People continually doubted the gt brand on ps3, 10+ million sales later...........
Edit :: Amir0x banned :/
Infamous is not close to Titanfall in system selling ability at all imo, still not a big enough franchise. It has nowhere near the hype that Titanfall is receiving. GT7 and Uncharted would be on par.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
Member
Good on the sales figures. I want MS to be successful enough to keep Sony from getting lackadaisical again, and vice versa. When they are fighting it out I win because things continually get better in attempts to get my business. 50/50 split would be ideal in my world.
alexandros
Banned
How are they getting better? Two generations ago online was free, two generations later both Microsoft and Sony are charging for it. Sadly competition is not working as intended in the console market because the competition is between locked down platforms.
Yet Titanfall, an unreleased game, is a bigger franchise and system seller? I think actually being released and selling a ton of copies is a prerequisite to franchise-tag status don't you think? Hype alone will bite you in the ass.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
I'm sure Titanfall will sell some xboxes, but realistically so will the next Halo and I suspect there'll be a significant crossover appeal between the two IP's.
So objectively, how impactful is it really going to be when its simply addressing the same demographic that MS already has covered exclusive-wise with Halo?
Its not opening up a new market, its simply supplementing one where Xbox has always been strong traditionally.
So objectively, how impactful is it really going to be when its simply addressing the same demographic that MS already has covered exclusive-wise with Halo?
Its not opening up a new market, its simply supplementing one where Xbox has always been strong traditionally.
GillianSeed79
Member
I don't know. For me personally it's a system seller since it's the one game that will probably get me to pick up an Xbox One before a price drop. I mean, the game has gotten good impressions from the people who have played it and it sounds like they are doing interesting stuff with bots and the post-game extraction mechanic.
As far as the other points, sure you can get it on 360. For me personally having another developer behind it and zero information about that version doesn't instill confidence. Just anecdotally, I watched both console launch events on Spike and when they asked people standing in line what game they were most excited for, a lot of them said Ghosts - a game that, by all accounts, at least graphically, looks like meh and has gotten meh reviews and impressions. There's also been plenty of posts here where people show what launch games they got and a lot of them have Ghosts. I think a lot of people are ready to buy new consoles and the early adopters are the ones that will likely buy Titan Fall. Sure, there are going to be people that don't jump into next-gen right away, but I don't think people will actively not buy a One just because they can get Titan Fall on 360.
As far as PC, I have two problems. One my PC is getting old and I doubt it would be able to play it at a steady frame rate. Secondly, I'm not a mouse and keyboard guy. It will probably have controller support, but I would get destroyed by people playing with mouse and keyboard. I'd much rather play it with my one friend, who I at least know got a One.
Overall, I think PC might be where it makes the least impact sales-wise. I haven't checked the Steam player stats, but most people on Steam play TF2 regularly. I don't even think the CoD games get anywhere close to the concurrent number of players on Live and PSN.
SlowRevolution
Member
MS marketing isn't helping Surface.
Kinect 1 was garbage but it was still an idea people could really get behind, it was like an evolution of what people loved about the Wii. I'm not saying it will or won't be successful, but the Xbox One hasn't really got that Kinect/Wii level appeal to it - I don't think the TV stuff and an improved Kinect is enough. Marketing won't be enough to make the console a success, at least not long-term.
It's a new game in the post-launch drought of a brand new console. Every new game has a chance of selling a fair few consoles in those circumstances. But I think what some people aren't so sure about is how much of a kingmaker it is for MS and the XBO.
It just seems way to early to say stuff like this.
Uno Venova
Banned
speculation about MS making a sold out conclusion press release based on early sales seems likely.
An online only, underwhelming graphically old source engine, sci-fi/mech shooter which is available cross-gen and on on PC is being hyped up as the second coming of the messiah because some people need hopes and dreams to hold onto. A Bone + Live + game price is the cost of entry. Good luck with that.
Basically MS released their shit on the assumption they'd sell out 90% of the initial shipment. Which is near enough for them. Euroland numbers will be interesting....UK report on Monday.
Basically MS released their shit on the assumption they'd sell out 90% of the initial shipment. Which is near enough for them. Euroland numbers will be interesting....UK report on Monday.
While I can see titanfall being potentially an Uncharted/Gears/GoW type of IP, sales wise, lumping any of these together with GT is hilarious.
edit: holy shit these pics. It'd be hilarious if they completely made up that figure. They really can't stop following PS3's path.
Gears of War, it's all that needs to be said. IF titanfall is as hot as Gears 1 was MS will sell plenty of consoles.
GoofsterStud
Member
I just went to Bestbuy and they still had them. The Microsoft rep was spreading crap about how games, COD, looks better on the Xbox One. Looks like they got new PS4's, most people seem to be picking those up even with the Microsoft rep there. They sold 2 PS4's while I was in the checkout line. So if you want a PS4 now's the time.
I also went to Target where they had what looks like 8 Xbox Ones, the rep said people were returning them still in the box. I'm guessing he was referring to scalpers.
I also went to Target where they had what looks like 8 Xbox Ones, the rep said people were returning them still in the box. I'm guessing he was referring to scalpers.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
My Best Buy had neither console in stock but the employee there that I was talking to did say that so far they've had no Xbox One returns but they did have PS4 returns.
Whipped Spartan
Member
Xbox one is an awesome system. Glad MS matched Sony's production/shipments. Its good news for everyone who enjoys console gaming.
Those who are arguing about the voice control's it's a matter of personal preference.
As for me I use the universal remote functions like mute and volume non stop. Its great unless there is multiple people in the room with me. It's like Kinect 1 in that you have to know their key words.
Those who are arguing about the voice control's it's a matter of personal preference.
As for me I use the universal remote functions like mute and volume non stop. Its great unless there is multiple people in the room with me. It's like Kinect 1 in that you have to know their key words.
GoofsterStud
Member
I didn't ask about returns... I just said wow you have a lot of Xbox Ones, I read they were sold out.
Dragonborn
Member
Well, from what everyone talks about one would think Titanfall is the only game the X1 has, it's the only I ever hear about at least. As for that second point, you're right, top 10 sales are usually multiplats which, coincidentally, are likely to run better on Ps4. So again, why would someone buy the machine where most of their games will run worse (and which is more expensive)?
It worked for the 360 because a lot of multiplats looked like crap on PS3, that isn't the case this time around the roles are reversed. What's even worse, Xbox can't stand on it's own since it's exclusive library is incredibly weak.
Chobel
Member
I think it depends in how bad is the X360 version, If it was good enough most people won't bother to upgrade to Xbox One.
shinra-bansho
Member
Titanfall isn't going to make the system $100 cheaper. I'm sure it will sell well - it will probably have a good attach rate and may provide some [limited] boost to hardware sales upon release. But I don't really see why people are putting so much stock in a single title.
The system selling software of these systems are the multiplatform titles and both systems have the weight of the collective third party industry behind them.
The system selling software of these systems are the multiplatform titles and both systems have the weight of the collective third party industry behind them.
No. That's not how competition works.
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I think the belief is if you are completely destroying the competition, you start coasting, take less risks, etc.
Didn't seem to hurt the PS2, though.
NoirVisage
Banned
Why was gears of war hot in the first place? Do you even remember what systems it released on when it released on that fateful day?
Be serious, they aren't anywhere near equivalent, its wishful thinking on an absurd level.
This.
The only reason to want both consoles to be sales successes is if you bought both of them. If you only bought a PS4/XB1, why should you care if the Xbox One/PS4 flops? Those gamers won't go away, they'll move on to the non-dead system.
No, I don't think the Xbox One is going to flop.
That row of black Xbone has about 160units in it.
Unquestionably, competitors actually competing usually results in benefits for people purchasing. But let us put the horse before the cart: competition picks winners and losers first and foremost. And, if I can steal a line from PopGAF, you will deal. The royal you, of course.
NPD will be illuminating.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
I didn't either. He just kinda mentioned it. He did say he expected both systems to be unavailable until after Christmas, but I somehow doubt they won't have any on Black Friday.
not_so_special
Banned
here on spain they claimed sold out and you can find day one editons with fifa everywhere
GoofsterStud
Member
I'm sure both had scalpers that were hoping for Wii levels of resale value.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
No, that doesn't make sense. Look at NES compared to SNES. Nintendo was fine. Look at PS1 to PS2. Sony was fine.
Having a major competitive advantage doesn't change the way your company works, greed does.
Harmony should make a voice recognising universal remote
Look what happened last gen though. Sony lost focus and MS and Nintendo both came up with successful strategies that let them take marketshare away from Sony. At the moment Nintendo and MS are somewhat struggling, but even without them there is an alternative to PS4 (namely PC gaming). Basically there's always going to be enough competitors in the industry for the gamer not too worry that one of the competitors has become too weak, but simply worry about what's currently the best option for him.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Yeah, that was a one-time phenomenon. There was like one or two days where scalpers might have made money on both systems.
Why did people buy a PS2 after the Gamecube launched even though the Gamecube was $100 less and had better looking multiplats?
Could it have been exclusive games and system features?
No! That can't be it!
Copy and paste what I said in another thread...
I find the overall view that one console having better looking multiplats automatically causes the competing console to be an "automatic flop" pretty funny -- especially when people use it when discussing the PS4.
And I say that because that line of thinking completely goes against the success of the past three Playstation consoles and therefore makes it ironic when people use it when talking about the PS4. Why was the Playstation brand huge these past almost two decades when the brand as a whole had worse looking multiplats for more than 17 years? It's because the brand had/has a ton of unique gaming content that went along side those (worse looking) multiplats.
Overall, the gaming content and features that both consoles have that won't be on the competitor console is going to matter the most. The Xbox 360 did have better looking multiplats but the majority of people bought multiplats on the Xbox 360 due to system features like Xbox Live -- not because the multipats looked better vs. the PS3.
When it comes to graphics, as long as a new console is a big step up from an (old) current gen console, most will be happy.
What kind of console war line of thinking is this?
So it was wrong for me to want to see Xbox Live grow back during the first half of the previous decade so that online console gaming became more popular/better? Even though I primarily played on my PS2?
Okay.
