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Xbox Original Programming
- Thread starter jbug617
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I know - I was being sarcastic.
hmmm. maybe people wants value for the money they use on a GAMING system..?
Do we know this is all going to be available with gold ? I don't think they have ever claimed it will be.
I think you'll find the OP should have been.
"Xbox announce original TV shows. "Xbox off."
I keed. I keed.
If they added value in terms of notable gaming-related features, then people would be hyped.
But these are potentially interesting shows that are only tangentially related to gaming at best. Do you not understand why a hardcore gaming forum doesn't go crazy for TV announcements?
Vinterbird
Member
I want any kind of value. And if people are still calling the consoles gaming systems have lost touch of reality. They are media boxes. The PS3 is the most used Netflix device in the world, and these machines have a central position in homes so of course they should provide more then just games.
I'm super excited to see these things become reality. Hopefully one of them will be great.
forgeforsaken
Member
Having read Gun Machine it would make a decent movie, or miniseries, but a full on TV series, I dunno.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
My bet is they will put them out through Xbox Video, or possibly even create their own "Xbox Entertainment" App.
This topic isn't about Sony, though I'm not surprised to see you in here bringing them up, lol.
ultratruman
Banned
Sony pictures didn't make the tester.
Honestly, SBD, there were so many examples that could've worked there.
Amazon, Neflix, Hulu, etc. You really think Xbox TV will compete or gain any relevance with the likes of these being available? People already have access to these other services on devices they already own and the Xbox brand is associated with gaming first and foremost. The casual market is not going to give two shits about Xbox TV and you can bank on it.
Castef
Banned
In the very same way that the videogame industry was dominated by Nintendo, Sony and Sega, right?
Black Mantis
Member
I think they are off to a good start, Nancy Tellem heading it up and 150 members of staff kinda prove they aren't taking it lightly.
Original content is a totally different monster. People weren't so sure Netflix could do it and look at where we are today. As long as the shows are good everything will take care of itself.
but you are in Denmark..? just like me (sort of).. and none of this (97½% change of it not coming) will ever come to Denmark. just like it was on X360.
In Europe (most of it anyway) live has nothing besides online gaming..
This is not the right way to go about establishing yourself in the TV show space.
I'm pretty certain you mean Nintendo and Sega. Sony is a music company that also makes nice TVs, they'd never be able to compete in the gaming market against the likes of Nintendo and Sega with all their household IPs.
Amazon isn't dominating shit in terms of original content. All their shows are hot garbage and Microsoft can easily step in and eat their lunch on that front. I mean shit, most people don't even like the Amazon video because it made Prime go up.
Netflix is the only one that really has anything of value in their original programming. Microsoft may not best them, but can certainly co-exist and isn't doomed to failure.
The Xbox brand is indeed associated with gaming first, which is why all of Microsoft's shows listed are targeted at young adult males. As the media pick up on these shows and provide coverage, word of mouth will spread and the shows will gain traction giving MS the chance to branch out and do more diverse content in the future.
It's one more selling-point for MS devices and service, though.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
Damn them for not giving us free Indie Games each month!
Oh wait, they're going to start that soon in the next upcoming months.
What else separates PSN and Xbox Live Gold, at least in terms of the Xbox One and PS4? They have the exact same features at this point but the free small little games each month.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
And when Hulu debuted people said it wouldn't be able to compete with Netflix. Come on, it's like you already are writing their efforts off when they literally haven't even aired anything yet. Also, don't pretend that Amazon has any huge original programming shows right now. Netflix has a bunch and Hulu is starting to get betetr in this regards, but to say there is NO CHANCE that MS can compete in original programming, especially after seeing this diverse lineup is just silly.
Of course there will be *little* people who buy the console for stricly this, but there are people who will look at it as part of the bigger picture of something else the console brings.
BigSpleenRupture
Banned
I am not shitting on it at all, it's fact. I'd say the same thing if Sony were to do something they simply are not well equipped to do.
Bungie
Member
Had to bring up Sony in a Xbox thread, didn't you.
Anyways, I'll watch the Halo stuff & Deadlands for sure!
Vinterbird
Member
I would be genuinely surprised if the original programming was not world wide.
But it doesn't change the fact that these boxes are used for far more things then games, and that's a good thing.
No doubt and they have made their mark in gaming and that is what Xbox is recognized for. If anything, that is why I think this is a venture that should be started separately, rather than associating it with their brand that is known for gaming. Integrate it in afterwards, sure. Then of course offer the service as an app for people on all devices. Otherwise, it does not stand a chance.
Garrett 2U
Member
Wow, many of those sound really interesting to me
I wasn't expecting so much content!
I wasn't expecting so much content!
That's really not for this thread.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
They had me at Simon Chinn and Tim & Eric
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I like the sounds of this. Will surely check some of these out.
This stuff really excites me, as long as it is included in the subscription price of Gold and not an added cost. The more divergence I see between Microsoft and Sony the better. The last thing we need is 2 consoles that do almost the same thing, seperated by a power gap and a handful of exclusives. Instead, I'd love to have two fundamentally different experiences and a real choice in which one someone should choose. Really don't understand the people that shit all over this. If you don't like this way of doing things, you can easily go the Sony route. Now it really just feels like people will trash talk Microsoft if they aren't constantly sucking off hardcore gamers. Their console is weaker, and we've still got 5 more years left in this generation. They've got some appealing exclusives, and are doing some different things with entertainement. I welcome the change.
Options are great! This isn't "the reason why people buy a $500 machine", it is just a differentiator. I know that I will be buying a new console after E3, and when choosing between Sony and Microsoft, this impacts my decision. I don't have cable, and I use my console for all of my entertainment. It seems like this is going to be used to combat PS+: Better Included Games vs More Entertainement Programs.
Options are great! This isn't "the reason why people buy a $500 machine", it is just a differentiator. I know that I will be buying a new console after E3, and when choosing between Sony and Microsoft, this impacts my decision. I don't have cable, and I use my console for all of my entertainment. It seems like this is going to be used to combat PS+: Better Included Games vs More Entertainement Programs.
Just stop trolling every thread related to MS. It's very obvious, you are not fooling anyone.
Some of these shows seem really interesting. I hope they can make the Halo series at Game of Thrones level. Anything under M rating would be terrible.
I'd like to know this as well.
Anything is possible, but I just am not seeing it. And yes, part of it is that I want to see Xbox get back to a strong gaming first focus and double down on making the system strongest there. They already have a huge image problem, so going full steam ahead with all of this TV shit is not going to win them any favors with the audience that is most likely to be buying their system. That's all I'm saying.
speakerlog
Member
Nobodys going to keep taking you seriously if all you do is sprout M$ hate continually.
They hired Nancy Tellem, one of the most powerful and successful individuals in television to oversee all of this. She played a very important part in the astronomical successes CBS has had over the years.
They seem to be taking the right steps and equipping themselves for this, I think they'll be just fine.
I disagree with your first statement.. but totally agree with the last one.
Sounds like it based on what I read in an Ars article about this.
Link?
intheinbetween
Member
they better..
ultratruman
Banned
Xbox TV won't just be competing with Netflix, Amazon and Hulu, but also (and perhaps more directly) with Sony's plans for original TV, 'gamer focused' tv content for PSN. It's totally relevant.
Goodacre0081
Member
why are you looking past the entire IGC offerings to suit your argument? I know as a XBL subscriber I want MS to offer more value in terms of games, not an attempt at TV programming. you would think the more expensive service would be the one offering more for our dollar.
Castef
Banned
Can't see such a great effort to be provided under a 5 USD subscription per month.
More probably they'll provide them at a discounted price for Gold Users.
GuitarAtomik
Member
I still think this is a weird idea (to tie tv programming to a console) but I'd check out at least 50% of those shows so I'm not complaining. Apparently the original Swedish version of Humans (Real Humans) was really good so I'm looking forward to that one (Along with all the Halo stuff).
Two subscriptions. Sounds amazing.
Castef
Banned
Pay-per-view if you are not a gold user.
Discounted pay-per-view if you are.
That's my hypothesis.
It should be exclusive to their service (Xbox Video), but it shouldn't be exclusive to any of their devices if you ask me. You're not going to entice people to purchase your hardware for shows they have no way of even confirming they will like otherwise. I mean, sure they could pirate an episode, but at that point they'd probably decide to do that with the rest of the show too. Let everyone access it via the service, and then make sure the service is best on your devices (which right now they are automatically, by being the only devices with an app, instead of relying on a website).
Everybody is ill-equipped to compete in a new space at the start. MS is better than equipped to move into new digital spaces than all but a handful of companies existing.
'Gamer Focused' TV restricted to PSN isn't worth MS even worrying about. Gamer focused TV had been tried constantly, and failed almost every time (I can only really think of GamesMaster as a success). It's a niche of a niche. Not at all a relevant comparison.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
You don't announce this much and not be serious about your commitment. In other words, even if Microsoft were to leave the games industry altogether, I believe they would still be pushing this every bit as hard as they are currently, because they look at the popularity of things like House of Cards on Netflix, Hulu, original programming on channels like HBO or Starz etc and they legitimately believe this is worth pursuing. Xbox just happens to be a very smart and convenient brand to attach this to, but I think they're dead serious about this.
What about free, with adverts...?