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[Mark Gonzales]

Still funny that it's the Yankee group in Boston. Yankees Suck !!!!

http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=11764

And what about the cool controller? Echoing what Microsoft’s hardware production manager Rob Walker said at Gamefest earlier this week, Goodman told us that he and others who have played with the Wii controller for an extended period of time got tired and fatigued. While Goodman feels that the Wii controller is an impressive engineering achievement, he feels that gamers will get frustrated and tired of having to move their arms while, say, swinging a bat while playing Wii sports or throwing a football in the Wii port of Madden

 

[Meier]

Oh noes, exercise sucks!

 

[Ghengis Cohen]

Talking on Gaf about the Wii controller will make gamers frustrated and tired.

.

 

[The End]

I think they may have a point. The kind of early adopters who buy a console at full price aren't exactly the "active" types.

 

[He Wants Chalupas]

I think they may have a point. The kind of early adopters who buy a console at full price aren't exactly the "active" types.

lol gamers r fat

 

[Odysseus]

They're missing Nintendo's whole purpose. And that is to make non-gamers frustrated and tired. Idiots.

 

[Xdrive05]

I think they may have a point. The kind of early adopters who buy a console at full price aren't exactly the "active" types.

But let's be real about this. Nintendo isn't exactly requiring us to run marathons or anything. Fat people can still wave their arms around just fine and dandy.

 

[Zombie James]

I don't know about tired, but i can believe the frustrated part (remembers Jane struggling trying to fish in Zelda while a Nintendo rep gives her a laundry list of instructions at E3).

 

[The End]

But let's be real about this. Nintendo isn't exactly requiring us to run marathons or anything. Fat people can still wave their arms around just fine and dandy.

Remember though, fat people have FAT ARMS

 

[Cosmonaut X]

And what about the cool controller? Echoing what Microsoft’s hardware production manager Rob Walker said at Gamefest earlier this week, Goodman told us that he and others who have played with the Wii controller for an extended period of time got tired and fatigued. While Goodman feels that the Wii controller is an impressive engineering achievement, he feels that gamers will get frustrated and tired of having to move their arms while, say, swinging a bat while playing Wii sports or throwing a football in the Wii port of Madden

Uh-huh.

I really can't wait for the launch just so we can have an end to this ****ing bullshit. Of course, then we'll have all kinds of other bullshit to put up with but at least it'll be a change...

 

[Xdrive05]

Remember though, fat people have FAT ARMS

Oh I'm well aware.

*pinches arm*

 

[SantaC]

I wish we could fastforward 2 months...

 

[soul creator]

Uh-huh.

"echoing" which implies that it's not an actual microsoft person in this specific context...

...I think.

 

[Cheebs]

What we need is more faked images of Wii's menu. What happened to all of those.

 

[The End]

Uh-huh.

I really can't wait for the launch just so we can have an end to this ****ing bullshit. Of course, then we'll have all kinds of other bullshit to put up with but at least it'll be a change...

Man, I can't wait for some fat kid to have a heart attack playing WarioWii

 

[kenta]

Uh-huh.

I really can't wait for the launch just so we can have an end to this ****ing bullshit. Of course, then we'll have all kinds of other bullshit to put up with but at least it'll be a change...

But but but... Wii60! Microsoft is on your team! Wooo!

Woo?

 

[Burnst]

So they based their 'Nintendo failure' on:

Causal gamers don’t buy consoles.

Microsoft will be very aggressive in lowering the price point of the Xbox 360 soon after the Wii launch. Goodman is projecting that Microsoft will lower the price of the console by $100 by spring or summer of 2007 and feels that gamers will look at both the Xbox 360 and the Wii and feel like there is a better value for their money by getting the Xbox 360.

he feels that gamers will get frustrated and tired of having to move their arms while, say, swinging a bat while playing Wii sports or throwing a football in the Wii port of Madden.

Yankee Group. :lol

 

[Cosmonaut X]

"echoing" which implies that it's not an actual microsoft person in this specific context...

...I think.

I know that - Michael Goodman is an analyst at Yankee Group. I just find it amusing that the opinion of a Microsoft hardware manager on one of the main features of their rival's new console is taken at face value.

 

[gjb-sensei]

Yankees suck.

 

[Luna104]

Echoing what Microsoft’s hardware production manager Rob Walker said at Gamefest earlier this week, Goodman told us that he and others who have played with the Wii controller for an extended period of time got tired and fatigued.

I think this says more about Mr Goodman than about the Wiimote.

 

[replicashooter]

It's comments like the Yankee one that really illustrate the moronic nature of the herd these days...

Roll on total control, let's all surrender to Illuminati now.

 

[Luna104]

dp, I blame Opera!

 

[JonathanEx]

Goodman is projecting that Microsoft will lower the price of the console by $100 by spring or summer of 2007

That statement ruined any credability of this article.

 

[Mark Gonzales]

How can anyone say he doesn't have a valid point. I put over over 90 hours into Oblivion. I can't imagine swinging that Wii remote as my sword as many times as I had to click the mouse over the course of the game especially during marathon sessions.

 

[AniHawk]

That statement ruined any credability of this article.

I say it's pretty likely, if it doesn't happen sooner.

 

[gjb-sensei]

How can anyone say he doesn't have a valid point. I put over over 90 hours into Oblivion. I can't imagine swinging that Wii remote as my sword as many times as I had to click the mouse over the course of the game especially during marathon sessions.

Then don't design the game that way, Einstein.

 

[JonathanEx]

How can anyone say he doesn't have a valid point. I put over over 90 hours into Oblivion. I can't imagine swinging that Wii remote as my sword as many times as I had to click the mouse over the course of the game especially during marathon sessions.

Which is the reason Zelda didn't have sword swinging.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

Man, I can't wait for some fat GAFer to get cramp playing WarioWii & then post half-a-dozen doom-and-gloom threads

Fixed.

 

[Chris Remo]

How can anyone say he doesn't have a valid point. I put over over 90 hours into Oblivion. I can't imagine swinging that Wii remote as my sword as many times as I had to click the mouse over the course of the game especially during marathon sessions.

Speaking of things we can't imagine, I can't imagine any developer making a 90 hour game full of melee combat that requires you to swing the remote every time you swing your sword. Zelda certainly doesn't, I don't know why some other game would.

 

[Luna104]

How can anyone say he doesn't have a valid point. I put over over 90 hours into Oblivion. I can't imagine swinging that Wii remote as my sword as many times as I had to click the mouse over the course of the game especially during marathon sessions.

That's why Nintendo isn't using motion sensing for Link's sword in Zelda TP.

But we all know that you can choose between big swings and small wrist movements in Wii Sports Tennis, so this really isn't an issue at all.

 

[MasterMFauli]

Fat people can still wave their arms around just fine and dandy.

For most Wii-games you even dont have to wave your hands, just move the angle of your wrists.
Watch the Sony E³-press conference again, the Warhawk-demo. PS3-controller may be tiring, the wiimote not.

 

[JCX]

I'll add in the mandatory "flick of the wrist" statement for tired arm wiimote threads.

 

[SuperPac]

By this logic, there are many games out now that would've made plenty of gamers frustrated and tired... Beatmania, DDR, Guitar Hero, anything on DS that uses the stylus to great degree, etc.

It's like saying no one who enjoys sports should go out and play the real thing because it will just make them tired and frustrated.

 

[Shaheed79]

I find it sort of funny how games have now evolved into being generally excepted as being the most lazy ass form of interactive entertainment that gamers now get offended at the sheer thought of not being such lazy piles of doodoo butter while playing any game that isn't DDR or Guitar Hero.

 

[reminder]

Watch the Sony E³-press conference again, the Warhawk-demo. PS3-controller may be tiring, the wiimote not.

You don't have to swing your arms around like the guy did.

 

[Andonuts]

The "tired and fatigued" thing really varies from game to game. I could imagine getting tired playing Zelda for too long, but something like Metroid Prime 3 (where you mostly just point) won't really be much of a strain.

 

[Lo-Volt]

These Yankees suck.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

The "tired and fatigued" thing really varies from game to game. I could imagine getting tired playing Zelda for too long, but something like Metroid Prime 3 (where you mostly just point) won't really be much of a strain.

Eh? I'd say that MP3 and Zelda will require the same level of effort - i.e., next to none. It'll be games like WarioWare and Wii Sports that require more exaggerated motions & a fuller user of the motion sensitivity that are likelier to be slightly more tiring - and funnily enough, those are games that are likelier to have shorter play sessions.

 

[Luna104]

The "tired and fatigued" thing really varies from game to game. I could imagine getting tired playing Zelda for too long, but something like Metroid Prime 3 (where you mostly just point) won't really be much of a strain.

I imagine sitting comfortably in my chair with the Wiimote and nunchuck resting on my legs. Wrist movements, man.

 

[jetsetmario]

This just in....

The Yankee Group has predicted that all internet porn sites will go under by the close of fisical year 2007. While analysts agree that internet porn is an impressive technical achievement, they feel that people will become frustrated and tired for.... well obvious reasons.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I'm Frustrated from waiting for Zelda TP and Wii Sports

I'm Tired of people bitching about a Wiimote they never tried


Did we really need a group of Yankees to tell us this? did I miss anything?

 

[Shaheed79]

Here's the thing you bunch of smurfs. How do you think we "gamers" look to non-gamers when we're playing the newest MGS or Halo? Unless you're the extremely animated type (in wich case you shouldn't be complaining about the wiimote) then you look like souless hypnotized brainless zombies linked into the gotdamn matrix. Nothing about how we play games looks appealing to anyone who doesn't already have a passion for playing. Even if you don't think so this is something that desperately needs to be corrected because it is only serving to support any negative sterotypes society has already placed on videogames and the people who play them.

The wii is a good thing for gaming. Repeat 100 times until you remove the stick from your ass.

 

[MrSardonic]

you can get paid for this?

 

[Luna104]

Here's the thing you bunch of smurfs. How do you think we "gamers" look to non-gamers when we're playing the newest MGS or Halo? Unless you're the extremely animated type (in wich case you shouldn't be complaining about the wiimote) then you look like souless hypnotized brainless zombies linked into the gotdamn matrix. Nothing about how we play games looks appealing to anyone who doesn't already have a passion for playing. Even if you don't think so this is something that desperately needs to be corrected because it is only serving to support any negative sterotypes society has already placed on videogames and the people who play them.

The wii is a good thing for gaming. Repeat 100 times until you remove the stick from your ass.

It depends. If a super nerdy guy is playing Wii, it may look even worse than playing the 360 couch potato-style.

 

[Zombie James]

The wii is a good thing for gaming. Repeat 100 times until you remove the stick from your ass.

The Wii is good for non-gamers who don't care about games. Whether that's a good thing for the 150+ million people who are already gamers remains to be seen.

 

[BocoDragon]

Girlie Men.. all of them...

 

[jarrod]

The Wii is good for non-gamers who don't care about games. Whether that's a good thing for the 150+ million people who are already gamers remains to be seen.

More widespread interest in the industry is always a good thing. Believe it or not, having the artform mature beyond what we've got now is good for "gamers" too.

 

[drohne]

i'm sure i look like a world-class douchebag while i play chromehounds and shout coordinates into my little headset, but i manage not to think about it. your sense of shame needs to have atrophied altogether before you can really enjoy waggling your wand, though -- it's quite a spectacle. i'm sure it'll find its demographic. i'm not part of it.

More widespread interest in the industry is always a good thing. Believe it or not, having the artform mature beyond what we've got now is good for "gamers" too.

difficult to argue with either contention...but the second has nothing to do with wii.

 

[Jiguryo]

Spoiler

can you take me high enough / and fly me over yesterday

 

[Shaheed79]

I always thought that expanding the market wether it was to typical casual gamers, non-gamers, aliens, vampires or sewer mutants alike would be good for gaming in general. But thats just me.

edit: jarrod gets the shit. Expanding the industry is important even if it doesn't expand in your own narrow-minded view of a gaming future. Nintendo is trying to do that with something other than a all-in-one entetainment hub like trojan horse. How dare they.