Matrix XII
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He sounds very honest and candid. I respect that.
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Yoshida disappointed by low PS4 reviews
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Thanks for describing Knack's subtle beauty!
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I'm not saying this will happen but I wouldn't be shocked if:
Infamous ends up releasing in late March
Driveclub is placed in the middle of the year June/July
The Order releases in the fall
Infamous ends up releasing in late March
Driveclub is placed in the middle of the year June/July
The Order releases in the fall
Louis Cyphre
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On that note, yes I can agree. It's why when a game I'm interested in for it's online play I am reluctant to care as much for the scores they give. GT5 is a prime example. The game got so much better over time but the early scores warranted some points taken off.
If you own multiple consoles then the better version will come into play more. PS3 only owners didn't care as much if the XBox 360 copy happened to be better, they likely bought it for other reasons even though the system cost more. The same rule is likely to apply with XBox One owners.
My gut feeling is reverse Infamous with Driveclub and The Order gets delayed until 2015. I'm hoping in replacement The Last Guardian fills its spot.
SonicXtreme
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dreamcast launch remains the ultimate measure of awesome launchness
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I figured those three would get pushed back to ensure quality but 2015? Dang. I can't see any of them going later than Christmas 2014 unless they are seriously screwed up.
Dash Kappei
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I enjoy it because despite doing his job and pr person (I'm not that naive) he doesn't come off as artificial. Something I could never say about Larry Hryb.
Good thing I disregard review scores. Hell, if I cared about them 1/2 my favorite games this gen would have been left on store shelves. The state of the game industry is as such that they can not be trusted to offer a good opinion, often enough that they tend to be more wrong than right. At least for my tastes in genres and videogames.
Word of mouth, and a very few select people that I trust. The rest of them can go pound sand trying to get my pageclicks. they need to prove to me they're worth it, and so far haven't.
Word of mouth, and a very few select people that I trust. The rest of them can go pound sand trying to get my pageclicks. they need to prove to me they're worth it, and so far haven't.
Louis Cyphre
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I don't have any inside information, it's only my assumption.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Oh, I never assumed. I'm just saying that would be quite the delay.
Personally, I think The Order needs delayed not becuase of any negative reason. I just think it would do well in the Fall/winter and the extra months of development would just be icing on the cake.
Metallix87
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No, you simply can't read, it seems. I said I have a large stack of Wii U games that I have to play, but the general public doesn't believe there to be any worthwhile games on Wii U. Situations are the same so far, let's just see how the public reacts once the console has been on the market for a couple of months.
FaintColt388301
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Disappointing but no big deal. Sony had an awful start last go around and managed fine in the end. This time they'll have a great start. It'll get better. The PS4 in a few years will be a beast
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Look at me in that quote, baby. I predicted Infamous in late March. Lets see if I can go three for three.
PanicFreak
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I'm talking about people taking Ryse reviews as gospel but complaining about PS4 reviews. It will be glorious!
what a stupid response!?!?!
not designed for getting high scores!?!?!
it only uses 3 buttons!?!?
WAT DA FUQ!?!!?
dont comment in the first place, if you only have to spill this BS.
unbelievable.
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Deleted member 47027
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You're not wrong. Nothing tops the jump the DC game, and THE GAMESSSSSSSS AHHHHHHH
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Precisely. And Mark Cerny is a very accomplished and intelligent man. He knows the distinguishing factors. Crash Bandicoot had a lot of compelling platforming and wasn't necessarily purely for kids either.
No development goal should be to 'aim' for a 7.0 or to be bland like that. I haven't started Knack yet, but much of the complaints if true are just self-evidently dumb to take into game development.
Really, Puppeteer should have been changed from PS3 to PS4 with a host of next-gen visual effects and 1080p@60fps implemented. It is a damn fine 8.5 platformer with an extremely memorable visual direction. This was just poor strategy if Knack really is as weak as a majority of people are saying.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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How is Knack a AAA launch title? I don't understand this.
Kameo is leagues better than Knack yet many people crap on it and don't consider that a AAA title. Crazy how fans work..
It's a pedigree, not a review score. Kameo was AAA even though I hated it.
3D World getting a 9.6 from IGN is perpendicular to my point, and moreso since I don't think Knack will be the equal or better game anyway.
Clockwork5
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Just kidding around (mostly). I was commenting on the shift in sentiment from, "This is gonna be an awesome launch" to "at least we have Resogun"...
Resogun looks awesome though and I would play the shit out of it all day long if i had a PS4.
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Not sure what that is proving? Thats not a launch game. Also its a main line mario title its gonna be better than 90% of games out there.
Clockwork5
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While I can hardly contain my hype level for this game, it was not a launch title. If it was Nintendo would still be counting their $$$.
You don't understand, transparent excuses and reviewer blaming make him humble.
I don't think reviews are going to change very much based on whether it was a launch game or not. The point is that the entire argument he's using for why Knack was getting low review scores are insane. There are lots of games that fit his criteria for a "game that wouldn't score well" and still score well. There are much more handicapped games that review even better.
Oh boy, I knew you guys would be hung up at the launch part. You guys want a NSMBU pic, which was also rated higher?
Eh, people are just using reviews to support their confirmation bias. If a game they're excited about, scores too low, reviewers are stupid or corupt. Same deal with games scoring higher than expected. If reviews are what was expected they'll be quoted as gospel. Personally, I trust reviewers over users right now since nearly everyone either hasn't played the games in question or they're smitten by launch hype.
The PS4 was always going to have a mediocre launch... an earlier post was spot on relating to the 'why' to cut over in previous generations was more compelling than it will be for PS4, since it's just a games machine without games compared to what else is available on the market. PS4 needs its killer 'you have to try this, only on PS4' app. A third Infamous won't be it. A fourth Killzone won't be it. It needs it's Gears or Uncharted equivalent to make it work outside of the niche market.
The PS4 was always going to have a mediocre launch... an earlier post was spot on relating to the 'why' to cut over in previous generations was more compelling than it will be for PS4, since it's just a games machine without games compared to what else is available on the market. PS4 needs its killer 'you have to try this, only on PS4' app. A third Infamous won't be it. A fourth Killzone won't be it. It needs it's Gears or Uncharted equivalent to make it work outside of the niche market.
I've had a quite terrible relation with metacritic and the likes lately, and i guess that's the last of it. I don't even want to play and compare RYSE, even though i know i'm going to somehow, on a borrowed xbone or something, since i'm completely down for anything that involves roman history, but really.
This is starting to get embarrassing.
This is starting to get embarrassing.
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"Unbashedly creative". Oh dear.
thelurkinghorror
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Knack is good, the price is wrong
still the king for a reason... have a problem with that?
jeremy1456
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I can't comment on how creative the game is because I haven't played it, but because you must have (giving you the benefit of the doubt) what was the problem with this comment?
Anticitizen One
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Mark Cerny really didn't have anything to do with Crash Bandicoot though. That was all Jason Rubin and his top notch team at Naughty Dog. Cerny's involvement in that series is questionable at best and I really wish Sony would stop trying to associate him with that game in order to make him seem like a Miyamoto to get Knack sales. Sony if you want Crash Bandicoot back so bad go make a deal with Activision and get Jason Rubin or some of the original crew back to make another one. Don't serve slop and sell it as "just as good as this great game you used to love".
I agree, it should have been 30-35 usd. 60 is too much...
Except unlike Knack, Ryse won't account for 50% of the next-gen AAA titles.
Anticitizen One
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huh?
The exclusive launch stuff for PS4 is mostly mediocre, but Resogun is very good and a mediocre launch lineup is pretty much par for the course in this industry. Also, perspective is important: compared to something like the Japanese Dreamcast launch, the PS4 launch is like some kind of gamer paradise. They can't all be 9/9/99.
He means that Xbone has more than two exclusive retail titles launching with it. If you're a consumer just looking at the games on the shelf, there's more exclusive stuff on the Xbone shelf than the PS4 shelf.
He means that Xbone has more than two exclusive retail titles launching with it. If you're a consumer just looking at the games on the shelf, there's more exclusive stuff on the Xbone shelf than the PS4 shelf.
Mohonky
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I think he is referencing retail boxed titles only.
MeBecomingI
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Knack is actually really good if you're looking for a fun, simple yet difficult platformer. It really does remind me of the older platforming games or the early PS2 years.
I enjoy it. The price was a little much, but I like it. Definitely not as bad as people are saying it is.
I enjoy it. The price was a little much, but I like it. Definitely not as bad as people are saying it is.
I wouldn't consider Knack a AAA title, looks like a AA or A level title that Japan Studio have been outputting since forever, shame the price doesn't reflect that.
Honestly I thought Titanfall would be where the tide turns but considering PS4's critically underwhelming launch lineup and undercooked OS, all Microsoft really needs to do is not launch with it's console constantly irrupting in flames and they got a early shot.
You're right. It's really a b-tier game. But still, it and Killzone are the only two retail PS4 games that are purely next-gen, two of the three that are new.
I haven't played knack but it's getting mighty old to see people shitting on killzone when they haven't played it. Game visually is a total departure from 1-3 and is definitely above 8.0. Play it before you crap on it, it's at minimum a good fps with amazing graphics. Real effort was spent on it, the game feels great.
you'd have to be rushing a console to market to overlook an overheating flaw like that, doesn't sound like microsoft.
I'm not sure the Xbox One lineup is much better, to be honest, but they have a real shot here in the midst of the PS4 failures. This is the very first opportunity they've had to really push through Sony's defense.
Will the XB1 suffer from similar hardware failures? I'm thinking the wide failures of 360 may have helped them learn their lesson but who knows?
Anticitizen One
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in terms of exclusives MS only has 1 extra game and its very niche...
Um what? A shot at what? Not being totally eclipsed by the ps4 world wide? Maybe. Or do you mean it has a shot at being the lead console in NA? Xbox one has nothing big at launch. Forza is not a console seller, KI (the reason I'm buying an xbone) is totally unknown to many buyers out there, Dead Rising 3 is it's killzone and then what else is there? Ryse?
I think titanfall won't be a big deal since bf4 and cod ghost will already be soaking up the fps player base. Id say Second Son is much more likely to make a big splash. By then word of mouth about how my buddies ps4 looks better in bf4/cod/ass creed than on the xbone should have spread among buyers. That's when MS will need something big IMO. A big kinect related title to show why buying a $500 console with inferior ports is the best decision bc of new experiences with kinect.
I'm going armchair analytic this and say that Forza 5 is a guaranteed 8.5er. Dead Rising 3 will probably score well as enough critics like the Dead Rising series when it's not reselling the same game repeatedly. Killer Instinct is getting a lot of love from the fighting community. And Ryse is enjoyed by a few weirdos.
Much more is going for those games than what Knack (maybe even Shadow Fall?) had in terms of reputation and/or pre-release praise.
Not to mention that the OS looks a billion times sleeker (not that hard honestly) and it seems relatively rich in features.
All the Xbox needs to have at launch are titles that: 1.) Are only on a next-gen system and 2.) Not "5/10" scoring pieces of dumpster vomit.
And then yes, I believe that will close the gap between the PS4 and Xbone considerably.