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[Darksim]

Youtube accepts a maximum of 9000 bitrate, which allows for beautiful 1080p60 streaming/recording. I've done this myself plenty of times in my previous streams. You don't need to be a partner to have 9000 bitrate as well. In contrast, twitch is 3500 bitrate unless you're a partner.

Twitch always has the 3500 kbps cap even if you are a partner, and if you use 3500 without being partnered a huge portion of potential viewers won't be able to watch because you won't have quality options.

The Youtube player is so much better than Twitch it's unbelievable, there's no additional delay if you pick a lower quality (which makes me wonder if even the highest quality is still being transcoded, much like with regular uploads) and I can switch between the different qualities with literally a quarter of a second pause. All they need to do is not have a shit ui and they might actually scare Twitch into trying a little bit.

 

[Teknoman]

So will gaming videos still show up on regular youtube?

 

[Kieli]

The ability to find streams by games needs to be better organized.

Right now, it's relegated to the side-bar with a smattering of random selections.

 

[ldcommando]

Works pretty well

 

[Hylian7]

The issue with it implementing into a YouTube account is that any YouTube strike makes you ineligible to stream for six months. This will make people pretty wary about playing certain games or making archives of their regular streams while music is playing.



https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=DhAbXnXbIdo

Link to use the gaming UI. I wonder if people will be able to set it up so that people who use the regular link will land on the gaming side's version.

I'm trying out 9k bitrate now, still kind of blocky.

Any other ideas?

 

[Darksim]

I upped my bitrate from 3500 to 4000 and still have the same result.

Your bitrate is way too low for 1080p60 to look good even on twitch. If I'm right and Youtube is transcoding all of it's different quality options then it would be re encoding your 4000 kbps 1080p60 video which would explain why it looks so bad.

 

[Exile20]

I really don't see the issue with overlays and subscriber/donation call outs.

Sure it can be annoying but they are undoubtedly very effective and a further tool enabling streamers delivering content and getting rewarded for it.

I really hate the culture of "I want to see my name in lights"

I have been on streams in which a guy would donate a $1 every time with a dumb message. So there was this big graphics in the middle of the screen every few seconds. The streamer had to actually ban him.

I also hate when a stream has to stop playing to read some long message that was already on screen and then die.

I know that streamers use this "I want to see my name in lights" and "I want to hear my name called out" tactic but it really degrades the viewing for me.

One time a streamer doesn't want donations, he said so multiple times and people still keep donating over and over and over. The more he said it the more donations came in with a big graphic on the page. The streamer got so angry he had to stop to remove the link from the page.

Just my pet peeves. I am done now.

 

[KarmaCow]

So will gaming videos still show up on regular youtube?

This is more of a filter than a replacement. This is just a site that is focused on the subset of youtube about gaming.

 

[fugimax]

Is there any way to add games to the current database when typed in search?

Nope, but what are you looking for? We can add it..

 

[Resolution]

I'm trying out 9k bitrate now, still kind of blocky.

Any other ideas?

Try streaming at 720p

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I really hate the culture of "I want to see my name in lights"

I have been on streams in which a guy would donate a $1 every time with a dumb message. So there was this big graphics in the middle of the screen every few seconds. The streamer had to actually ban him.

I also hate when a stream has to stop playing to read some long message that was already on screen and then die.

I know that streamers use this "I want to see my name in lights" and "I want to hear my name called out" tactic but it really degrades the viewing for me.

One time a streamer doesn't want donations, he said so multiple times and people still keep donating over and over and over. The more he said it the more donations came in with a big graphic on the page. The streamer got so angry he had to stop to remove the link from the page.

Just my pet peeves. I am done now.

That's fair, interesting story the last part. Maybe he didn't want to get so many donations he'd have to do legal paperwork.

 

[fugimax]

Not in Canadia it isnt

Soon™

 

[daviyoung]

Just gave it a go from the UK

+++

• UI is slick, much better than Twitch.
• Easy to set up with OBS.
• Works well with other Youtube gaming content.

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• My upload speed is very bad, but this handles it worse than Twitch.

 

[Teknoman]

This is more of a filter than a replacement. This is just a site that is focused on the subset of youtube about gaming.

Ah, that's actually pretty cool then.

 

[The Flash]

I have no idea what I'm doing

 

[Nokterian]

Have 200+ subs can't add them all..that is unfortunate. Also i do not like the layout it to me is a mess on both the left and right side. The middle is not hot either...

 

[Blak_Status]

I'm watching one of my streamer friends on YT. He usually averages around 15 viewers or so on Twitch. He's at 31 viewers on YT right now. Just for perspective. I hope they implement hosting options and other stuff.

 

[Lashley]

Is there a way to view my watch later list using gaming.youtube?

 

[Ardenyal]

I'm trying out 9k bitrate now, still kind of blocky.

Any other ideas?

DVD has a similar bitrate and that's designed for SD content. You need a lot higher bitrate to get good quality at 1080/60.

 

[Kyougar]

Live Streaming is not available in your country due to rights issues.
Sorry about that.


Fuck you too Youtube! What rights issue? Twitch is working fine! (Germany)

 

[mcrommert]

DVD has a similar bitrate and that's designed for SD content. You need a lot higher bitrate to get good quality at 1080/60.

Dude dvd is fucking mpeg 2 - not at all comparable

9000 is fine for streaming 1080p60

 

[Vuze]

Live Streaming is not available in your country due to rights issues.
Sorry about that.


Fuck you too Youtube! What rights issue? Twitch is working fine! (Germany)

Channels need to be whitelisted before you can watch them (aka sign a contract w/e in which you agree not to stream any GEMA licensed music). Some German channels already did this, but good luck with international channels lol.

Anyway, I get a 404 error on my desktop rig when I try to browse the site and it's totally unusable on my notebook (1366 x 768). Can't even scroll down without using the arrow keys.

 

[Chezzymann]

The quality is so much better than twitch its not even funny, sure the UI is gross but that's not the main part

 

[NetMapel]

https://youtu.be/DhAbXnXbIdo

I'm trying this out playing some Arma 3. I've had an issue so far with my stream going blocky with lots of movement, and I didn't really have this problem on Twitch. I upped my bitrate from 3500 to 4000 and still have the same result. I also switched to the "less buffering" instead of "low latency" option as the low latency option wasn't very low latency.

Hey there. Watched your video and yeah I noticed those weird blockiness. In OBS, I use a bitrate of 8,500 and here's the result I get from of the more demanding game, Rocket League.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0WAfqTHuPg

I think yeah, you just need to up your bitrate to a maximum of 9,000 if you can. Quality will be excellent especially if you want to do 60fps.

Twitch always has the 3500 kbps cap even if you are a partner, and if you use 3500 without being partnered a huge portion of potential viewers won't be able to watch because you won't have quality options.

The Youtube player is so much better than Twitch it's unbelievable, there's no additional delay if you pick a lower quality (which makes me wonder if even the highest quality is still being transcoded, much like with regular uploads) and I can switch between the different qualities with literally a quarter of a second pause. All they need to do is not have a shit ui and they might actually scare Twitch into trying a little bit.

Thanks for clarifying. I played around with Twitch early on when I started streaming and left for Youtube pretty quickly afterward. So some details about Twitch is probably wrongly memorized in my mind.

 

[Zedox]

They need chat, and apps on XBO/PS4 and I say they'll have a good competitor.

 

[Setsuna]

This guy is streaming at 30k bit rate 1080p60fps so this is what the future looks like

 

[One Punch-Man]

Trying to stream but its skippy

 

[IonicSnake]

Works nice in Sweden, watching Jim Sterling playing Zombi live at the moment.
https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9M4TnBCj8

Will switch to YT streaming with PS4 Firmware 3.0.

 

[Diablohead]

The big plus of everyone having resolution settings for the viewer is that an old pc like my own can use a high bitrate to stream video footage without using tons of cpu time to compress the video, as if you were uploading a regular youtube video.

Example, on twitch I cap my upload to 1500 and stream in something around 480p so other can watch, with youtube I could in theory upload 720p at 6000kbps using a lightweight compression which would not kill my old core2duo and people of all internet types could still tune in and watch, this is a big plus.

 

[Sou Da]

Chat's definitely better but it still needs some work. I feel like the avatars are making it load a bit weirdly.

 

[The Flash]

I got it to work with my Elgato for a couple of minutes and now I have no idea how to get it back up.

 

[Azure J]

Currently running a test stream (Splatoon) through it. I like the quality of the video itself and everything being HTML5 is such a massive plus, but little things like the chat and UI elements are bugging me as a person entrenched in the Twitch experience.

 

[Sou Da]

Currently running a test stream (Splatoon) through it. I like the quality of the video itself and everything being HTML5 is such a massive plus, but little things like the chat and UI elements are bugging me as a person entrenched in the Twitch experience.

They should probably just use an irc instead of the hangouts chat.

 

[Diablohead]

How does ad revenue work with gaming youtube? does it actually work with it or is there no way to earn anything yet?

 

[finalflame]

Are people saying the UI is "gross" just used to Twitch and refuse to accept that YouTube Gaming is different? I was never a heavy twitch user but holy crap, this seems great. The quality, chat, and UI all seem fine to me.

 

[Blak_Status]

Are people saying the UI is "gross" just used to Twitch and refuse to accept that YouTube Gaming is different? I was never a heavy twitch user but holy crap, this seems great. The quality, chat, and UI all seem fine to me.

Nah... YT UI is crowded. Way too much going on. Especially compared to Twitch who has a simple, straight forward approach. Quality on YT is great though.

 

[KarmaCow]

Are people saying the UI is "gross" just used to Twitch and refuse to accept that YouTube Gaming is different? I was never a heavy twitch user but holy crap, this seems great. The quality, chat, and UI all seem fine to me.

It's just very clearly a tablet and touch-based UI, which sucks when there are huge buttons and menus on both sides.

 

[atbigelow]

Are people saying the UI is "gross" just used to Twitch and refuse to accept that YouTube Gaming is different? I was never a heavy twitch user but holy crap, this seems great. The quality, chat, and UI all seem fine to me.

I hate Twitch's UI but YTG still has some trouble spots. Most of the actual content pages, like the stream page, are good.

But there are a bunch of other issues, like the hovering sidebars and eyegasm on the front page.

 

[Hylian7]

https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=DhAbXnXbIdo

Giving this a try again, I have QuickSync on this time.

 

[ExitPlanetDust]

Downloaded the iOS app. Much much better experience than the desktop browser version. Loads quick, better than the primary YouTube app. The stream begins almost instantly, unlike the initial buffering I usually get when viewing streams in the Twitch app. Chat pauses when you tilt to landscape mode. This is kind of neat until you realize you have to swipe like a mad man to get to the most recent comments in an active chat when you tilt back.

For now, I think navigation in Twitch is still a bit more intuitive, but I think that the YouTube Gaming interface will be easier to build on.

 

[Sou Da]

It's just very clearly a tablet and touch-based UI, which sucks when there are huge buttons and menus on both sides.

Literally has "tap here" prompts.

 

[Junior Mint]

Is there no way to tell what game you're actually watching like Twitch has?

 

[atbigelow]

Is there no way to tell what game you're actually watching like Twitch has?

I'm definitely seeing it on some streams at the bottom:

"[x] watching [channel] playing [game]"

Seems as though not everyone is setting it.

 

[jediyoshi]

Are people saying the UI is "gross" just used to Twitch and refuse to accept that YouTube Gaming is different? I was never a heavy twitch user but holy crap, this seems great. The quality, chat, and UI all seem fine to me.

What about the UI on desktop specifically do you prefer? I'm actually at a loss as to what use case flows are actually improved.

 

[Junior Mint]

I'm definitely seeing it on some streams at the bottom:

"[x] watching [channel] playing [game]"

Seems as though not everyone is setting it.

Yeah, you're right. I was watching the Jim Sterling stream and like half the chat is asking what this game is.

 

[ExitPlanetDust]

Is there no way to tell what game you're actually watching like Twitch has?

In the mobile version there is a selector below the video. If you tap the "Details" selection it shows what you're watching.

I'm getting a banner at the bottom of the browser in the desktop version.

 

[Diablohead]

Speaking of mobile layouts i'm currently trying the website out on my windows 10 tablet, it's taking about a minute to load in the videos on the main page before I can do anything...

clicking on a live channel to view it is also bogging down firefox to the point where I think it's crashed.

*edit* its amazing how the chat is destroying playback because it's loading in everyone's avatars, and in a room of 400 people talking it's nothing but buffering and pausing due to chat. Honestly youtube remove the avatars.

 

[TheAbsolution]

Even though I like the app a lot better than the desktop version, I still don't like the way chat is handled on a YouTube stream at all.

 

[Hidden One]

Quality is nice.

 

[Pancakes]

This layout is complete and utter garbage holy shit. Just show me a grid view of the most popular channels right now and what games they're playing. Shit isn't hard.