Fair enough, I still think it's better to be upfront about what you will get.
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Mario Golf: World Tour DLC [3 packs, 2 x 18 holes ea., New Chars, Day 1, Season Pass]
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Fair enough, I still think it's better to be upfront about what you will get.
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bomb
Unconfirmed Member
Well your post instantly goes off the beaten path to talk about console sales. Big surprise.
Nintendo can only come out with so many great games a year. I am happy they decided to beef up the content in the games that they do come out with. If a "precedent" is made that the games are 25% cheaper on release but feature a season pass for additional content. Wow. Win/Win. right? Or did you not figure the 25% cheaper on release in your overly negative post?
Except the "complete game" as you put it, would have double the amount of content that's normal for the series. That's reasonable, day 1 DLC is bullshit though.
Yes, you read ''Nabbit'' correctly.
I...I can't believe it! I'm going to have to change my avatar once we get a picture of this ridiculousness. Haha. Nabbit for Smash confirmed?!
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
And people say Nintendo doesn't know how to market their products...
This game would have probably less than half the attention if it wasn't for this "controversy"!!!
This game would have probably less than half the attention if it wasn't for this "controversy"!!!
Stormwatch
Member
This season pass is uniquely different in that you know everything that it comes with. Most season passes like Assassin's Creed or Trials Fusion only say that you'll get all DLC for a year, but don't tell you what that DLC is. It's basically a crap shoot.
prag16
Banned
This. In my opinion everyone up in arms about this is being ridiculous. Look at the value proposition. It's very very reasonable.
If you're going to make the slippery slope argument, you first have to prove the slope is slippery. In the case of Nintendo, we have zero such proof to this point. So until then, we should judge the value here on its own merits, and and it comes off very strong. People won't like that the first installment is there day one I guess, but this is a $30 game at launch vs. $40 for all the big 3DS titles.
If they did day one paid DLC for MK8 with the MSRP of the game the full $60 that'd be slightly more annoying, but still not enough to prove Nintendo's slope is slippery and that they've "turned evil".
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Given what's in the base game, the pricing, and what's in the packs, I have no problem with this at all. I'll probably purchase the pass myself. Yes, in a way it's kind of like watching Nintendo lose it's "innocence" but I feel this was bound to happen eventually, especially once Iwata gets the boot. At least in this case it's done well.
It's optional DLC. You don't have to buy it.
Because it's Nintendo
Gotta be. Nobody has ever raged about day 1 DLC and season passes before Nintendo did it. No sir.
This might sound a bit crazy and fanboyish (I know from me impossible right) but did anyone consider that this DLC exists because the base game took all the space on the physical cart?
Would kinda make sense considering those carts aren't exactly amazing in size.
Most people raged about the typical Season Pass/Day 1 DLC bullshit like Harley's DLC in Arkham City. This is pretty much a whole new game's worth of content for $15. Apples and oranges here.
Would kinda make sense considering those carts aren't exactly amazing in size.
Most people raged about the typical Season Pass/Day 1 DLC bullshit like Harley's DLC in Arkham City. This is pretty much a whole new game's worth of content for $15. Apples and oranges here.
panama chief
Member
no mention of feeling cheated. but when you say "about the same content" who or what are you comparing it to?
edit: for those who questioned my first point i only said "complete" because its day 1 DLC. which as we all know.....couldve been on the cart.
Boards of Canada
Member
I think this is great news.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Got ya, thanks for clearing that up.
Investing in the unknown, yeah, that could end poorly.
"planned and announced before release" is one thing, "ready and releasing on day 1" is another. I don't mind if they announce DLC before release but I feel slightly ripped off when there's (non-cosmetic) DLC at launch that could've been included with the game.
It's not too bad, but slightly annoying.
Benzychenz
Member
Lol I actually just downloaded the demo.
Not that I'll buy it anyway, it costs $60 here in Australia.
matty2Dfraud
Banned
How does that compare to previous DS' and Gameboys? Mobile market going to continue to take market share from Nintendo portables. Don't get too comfortable.
I didn't say anything bad about the 3DS itself, so settle down. I like mine.
Stone Ocean
Member
Yeah, those poor devs couldn't fit all that content on a small cart so they're doing players a favor by allowing them to buy the content.
Damn that's some serious jade. It's an honest question. What if the cart was actually full because they picked a cheaper cart to make a cheaper game?
Nintendo have always stated that they want to do DLC and other practices that other developers partake in, but not until they figured out how to do them properly. They've been experimenting with different takes and ideas. NSMB 2, Steel Diver:Sub Wars, FE:Awakening DLC, NSLU, NES REMIX and this. I think they've been doing a good job so far.
Extending the scope of these games, making them more accessible and giving the consumer more options. Having it day one is a bit strange but it almost seems like a whole game in breadth for a good price. Lots of potential here for games like Pokémon, MK and Smash.
Extending the scope of these games, making them more accessible and giving the consumer more options. Having it day one is a bit strange but it almost seems like a whole game in breadth for a good price. Lots of potential here for games like Pokémon, MK and Smash.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
yuuuuuuup
I'll probably hold off on this for a while since I'm getting Triple Deluxe that day, but it's definitely on my must-buy list.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Don't get the hate here.
1. Nintendo needs to do stuff like this for the betterment of their company. This is, at the very least, another sign that they're FINALLY moving forward in an effort to catch up in this area of the industry.
2. You still get a full game's worth of content without the DLC and you aren't forced to buy it.
3. This gives huge hope that Mario Kart 8 will have the DLC tracks.
1. Nintendo needs to do stuff like this for the betterment of their company. This is, at the very least, another sign that they're FINALLY moving forward in an effort to catch up in this area of the industry.
2. You still get a full game's worth of content without the DLC and you aren't forced to buy it.
3. This gives huge hope that Mario Kart 8 will have the DLC tracks.
Stone Ocean
Member
I'm just saying you're grasping at straws here. No one makes DLC because they worked too hard, this stuff is planned in advance.
If the reason for this was indeed the cart being full, wouldn't selling this content be really, really slimy considering this was meant to be part of the game?
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
Cool.
The price actually sounds really reasonable considering what you get. It's more than I can about a lot of other developers who have done the same thing.
The price actually sounds really reasonable considering what you get. It's more than I can about a lot of other developers who have done the same thing.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
People don't want to try to understand/take into consideration things that they already have made their minds up about.
With that said, I have no idea the technicalities of memory as far as numbers are concerned with games.
Why is day 1 DLC a problem when the base game is fully featured and contains everything expected, while the DLC are just extras? Am I missing something? I thought people complained when devs took out expected content and decided to sell it as DLC.
What's with their recent £10.79/£13.49 pricing though? I mean I get it works out roughly equivalent compared to the Euro but it wouldn't kill them to go £9.99/£12.99 to match the US dollar instead.
Edit: Goddamn, some of those assets look like they were made for Wii U.
Worth mentioning that this is already a $29.99 title as opposed to many first-party 3DS titles which start at $39.99. I am pretty sure there is gonna be plenty of content.
entremet
Member
My big issue with DLC is that if you're into physical media having a good portion of your game contents only available online makes it tenuous if a platform holder goes out of business. From an archival and collection perspective it's detrimental. No longer do you have the full game on your cart or disc.
I never said anything about working too hard, I asked if the base game physically filled the very limiting memory cart format 3DS uses. IIRC the cheaper cart is only something like 2GB so it's very possible they could have just filled the thing up with the current content.
ActStriker
Member
You got to feel like NoA should've called it a "Three-Pack Set" instead of "Season Pass" so people didn't kneejerk at the term.
The "discounted" price is already higher than the normal US one though. And after that it gets even worse.
It's Nintendo. They'll have been around for 125 years as of this September. They're going nowhere.
Different economies. Plus UK price is post-20% tax. US price is pre-tax.
StreetsAhead
Member
Assets
God damn it. I think they just sold me. I'm such a sucker.
I think they mean "get with the times" in terms of online infrastructure, account management, that sort of stuff.
Not like this :<
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Day one.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Didn't even notice Gold Mario in the original announcement and holy crap is this a galaxy themed level?
How cool would it be if you could hit it onto those planetoids and instead of crossing a bridge over water like in real golf, you use that star to fly to where your ball went???
Because they could have included it for free!
I get both sides. On the one hand the conent is already done, so they might as well include it. On the other I can't blame Nintendo for wanting to make extra money with content that goes well above what the normally deliver in Mario Golf games.