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BRÜTAL LEGEND official thread of umlauts and schaferian awesomeness

MMaRsu

MMaRsu

Banned
bkfount said:
the 6 hour time isn't bullshit. You can fly through the story depending on difficulty, skill, and what you choose to do. I'm far through the story, but started doing some side stuff between missions when I realized how quickly I was flying through it. There's side missions and exploration/collectibles to add some time, but I don't doubt at all that people can beat the story in 6 hours. People can even beat Fallout 3 in an hour, but it doesn't mean the game sucks ass.
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Where did you get the game? :eek:
 
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Deleted member 30609

Unconfirmed Member
I have to wait until Friday thanks to stupid Australian street dates.

Most places will probably get their copies in tomorrow. I'm hoping I can pick one up a bit early. We shall see.
 
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Deleted member 30609

Unconfirmed Member
BobTheFork said:
Wait, how the hell does one beat fallout 3 in an hour?
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you can run straight to the place where your dad is if you know where it is.
 
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Shurs

Member
Rez said:
I have to wait until Friday thanks to stupid Australian street dates.

Most places will probably get their copies in tomorrow. I'm hoping I can pick one up a bit early. We shall see.
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If it makes you feel better, I doubt I'll be getting my copy until the end of the week.
 
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BobTheFork

Member
Rez said:
you can run straight to the place where your dad is if you know where it is.
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yeah, but then you still have to free him and double back to a few places that you can't teleport to if you haven't been before. Then getting the stuff from the enclave. There's no way you get through the tutorial, and run that far out, THEN do the endgame stuff that fast. I'm gong to look up speedruns :p
 
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painey

Member
well I got back from playing maybe 4 or 5 hours of it at my friends and I have to say I am absolutely gutted at how this turned out. I am a huge Schafer fan, I mean I own every game he ever worked on, but to me this game is truly awful.
I came in with such huge expectations, especially considering how great Psychonauts was but this has left me with nothing but a bad taste. From the first menu "cut scene" of Jack Black I had a big smile on my face, but as game kicked in it turned into a frown and then a grimace.
Essentially this game is one big mini game fest, with all the finese of a movie tie in. You drive from one hastily and loosely explained plot point to another playing out a set piece, either a short combat section, an escort mission or what is probably the most stinking piece of shit i have ever had the misfortune to play this gen, a horrific "RTS" section. Just thinking about how poorly done it is makes my blood boil.
The story is not only stupid in concept, but nonsensical in application, every cut scene (which are actually very well voiced) jumps from plot point to plot point in a blink of an eye, introducing and removing key characters before you can even remember their name. In the 5 hours i played i unlocked most of the story achievements and still cant understand the point of most of it.
The graphics are great, but frame rate chugs even in cutscenes and the camera is a thing of nightmares which often leads to you driving off cliffs into a quick respawn death.
There is far too little polish.. constant tool tips pop up reminding you of things you already know, when upgrading your car and scrolling through the options Ozzy Osbourne explains them, but as you scroll from one to another the audio doesnt stop and your minions constantly come out with the same lines over and over, sometimes while not even on screen. Constantly flipping about and clipping when you drive, mundane and unordinary side missions.
Quite probably the worst thing is the lack of humour, the one thing you would expect from a Schafer game. I laughed once the entire time and it was more of a dry laugh than a chuckle i got constantly from Psychonauts. There are huge numbers of opportunities for witty comments or jokes but they just don't come, the closest you get is an eyebrow shrug or a lighting of a smoke after someone says something.
There are some positives, like I said the voice acting is great and do the best of an unfunny script and Lemmy and Ozzy are great. The combat is more than adequate, but its used very seldom as you spend most of your time driving or commanding squads.
I know this is a poorly written and sloppy write up, but I am just blotting down thoughts as they come to me.. I am truly gutted and cancelling my pre order because it just isnt worth £35 to me. I feel like i've just seen my pet get shot. I don't really know what else to say.
 
Z

Zoso

It's been a long time, been a long time, been a long lonely lonely lonely lonely lonely time.
Thanks for the impressions, even if they weren't entirely favorable :lol
 
LiquidMetal14

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
V_Ben said:
wow. dunno what else to say to that. maybe a bit marmite?
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I am really digging things based on the demo but I understand where he's coming from as a fan of Psychonauts.
 
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DieNgamers

Member
VibratingDonkey said:
So you don't think it's good?
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He thought it was awful....so probaby not. :lol Seems to be something different than he expected or something. I don't get the "no humor" part as I laughed numerous times just watching some random videos. :lol Well, you can't please everyone. I'm so pumped for the reviews!
 
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V_Ben

Banned
LiquidMetal14 said:
I am really digging things based on the demo but I understand where he's coming from as a fan of Psychonauts.
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i get you i think. psychonauts wasnt the best playing game, but i'll be damned if everything else about it was sweet. im expecting brutal legend to be pretty much the same. you have to suffer through some annoying stuff to get to the next cutscene, and then all is forgiven.
 
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Kusagari

Member
The humor part of what he said doesn't scare me but I long feared the RTS sections might suck and his impressions make me even more scared about them.
 
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Vercingetorix

Banned
Thanks for the impressions painey, I appreciate them.

Out of curiosity, did you find any parts in the demo funny? I thought the intro was pretty good, and Jack Black had some good lines throughout. Are those few good lines just a fluke?
 
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Shurs

Member
painey said:
well I got back from playing maybe 4 or 5 hours of it at my friends and I have to say I am absolutely gutted at how this turned out. I am a huge Schafer fan, I mean I own every game he ever worked on, but to me this game is truly awful.
I came in with such huge expectations, especially considering how great Psychonauts was but this has left me with nothing but a bad taste. From the first menu "cut scene" of Jack Black I had a big smile on my face, but as game kicked in it turned into a frown and then a grimace.
Essentially this game is one big mini game fest, with all the finese of a movie tie in. You drive from one hastily and loosely explained plot point to another playing out a set piece, either a short combat section, an escort mission or what is probably the most stinking piece of shit i have ever had the misfortune to play this gen, a horrific "RTS" section. Just thinking about how poorly done it is makes my blood boil.
The story is not only stupid in concept, but nonsensical in application, every cut scene (which are actually very well voiced) jumps from plot point to plot point in a blink of an eye, introducing and removing key characters before you can even remember their name. In the 5 hours i played i unlocked most of the story achievements and still cant understand the point of most of it.
The graphics are great, but frame rate chugs even in cutscenes and the camera is a thing of nightmares which often leads to you driving off cliffs into a quick respawn death.
There is far too little polish.. constant tool tips pop up reminding you of things you already know, when upgrading your car and scrolling through the options Ozzy Osbourne explains them, but as you scroll from one to another the audio doesnt stop and your minions constantly come out with the same lines over and over, sometimes while not even on screen. Constantly flipping about and clipping when you drive, mundane and unordinary side missions.
Quite probably the worst thing is the lack of humour, the one thing you would expect from a Schafer game. I laughed once the entire time and it was more of a dry laugh than a chuckle i got constantly from Psychonauts. There are huge numbers of opportunities for witty comments or jokes but they just don't come, the closest you get is an eyebrow shrug or a lighting of a smoke after someone says something.
There are some positives, like I said the voice acting is great and do the best of an unfunny script and Lemmy and Ozzy are great. The combat is more than adequate, but its used very seldom as you spend most of your time driving or commanding squads.
I know this is a poorly written and sloppy write up, but I am just blotting down thoughts as they come to me.. I am truly gutted and cancelling my pre order because it just isnt worth £35 to me. I feel like i've just seen my pet get shot. I don't really know what else to say.
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CrushedEsteem.gif


I just ordered the game from Toys R Us a few hours ago.
 
Jonsoncao

Jonsoncao

Banned
well I just saw this game hits the torrent on xbox-scene

hopefully some pirate would kindly live-stream some gameplay
 
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saunderez

Member
painey said:
well I got back from playing maybe 4 or 5 hours of it at my friends and I have to say I am absolutely gutted at how this turned out. I am a huge Schafer fan, I mean I own every game he ever worked on, but to me this game is truly awful.
I came in with such huge expectations, especially considering how great Psychonauts was but this has left me with nothing but a bad taste. From the first menu "cut scene" of Jack Black I had a big smile on my face, but as game kicked in it turned into a frown and then a grimace.
Essentially this game is one big mini game fest, with all the finese of a movie tie in. You drive from one hastily and loosely explained plot point to another playing out a set piece, either a short combat section, an escort mission or what is probably the most stinking piece of shit i have ever had the misfortune to play this gen, a horrific "RTS" section. Just thinking about how poorly done it is makes my blood boil.
The story is not only stupid in concept, but nonsensical in application, every cut scene (which are actually very well voiced) jumps from plot point to plot point in a blink of an eye, introducing and removing key characters before you can even remember their name. In the 5 hours i played i unlocked most of the story achievements and still cant understand the point of most of it.
The graphics are great, but frame rate chugs even in cutscenes and the camera is a thing of nightmares which often leads to you driving off cliffs into a quick respawn death.
There is far too little polish.. constant tool tips pop up reminding you of things you already know, when upgrading your car and scrolling through the options Ozzy Osbourne explains them, but as you scroll from one to another the audio doesnt stop and your minions constantly come out with the same lines over and over, sometimes while not even on screen. Constantly flipping about and clipping when you drive, mundane and unordinary side missions.
Quite probably the worst thing is the lack of humour, the one thing you would expect from a Schafer game. I laughed once the entire time and it was more of a dry laugh than a chuckle i got constantly from Psychonauts. There are huge numbers of opportunities for witty comments or jokes but they just don't come, the closest you get is an eyebrow shrug or a lighting of a smoke after someone says something.
There are some positives, like I said the voice acting is great and do the best of an unfunny script and Lemmy and Ozzy are great. The combat is more than adequate, but its used very seldom as you spend most of your time driving or commanding squads.
I know this is a poorly written and sloppy write up, but I am just blotting down thoughts as they come to me.. I am truly gutted and cancelling my pre order because it just isnt worth £35 to me. I feel like i've just seen my pet get shot. I don't really know what else to say.
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Wow....are we even playing the same game? Apart from the audio quips which I agree with I've had absolutely no control or camera issues in my play time. I feel like I know the major characters intimately at this point and I'm probably 5 hours in too. I also understand whats going on in the story which differs from your experience. I've had no issues driving and very few control related deaths. And there's definitely no lack of humour, even compared to Psychonauts. My issues mainly stem from the RTS segments which I haven't quite mastered yet, apart from that I'm having an exceptional time with the game. Sure the side missions are pointless and repetitive, but show me an open world game where that isn't the case. This game is definitely shaping up to be a 9 for me and I'm not even a fan of metal.
 
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DieNgamers

Member
Painey, you had some kind of media-blackout and didn't play the demo right? Just asking because I may have seen about two hours of the game already ( I tried to resist ..:D ) and pretty much know what awaits me...and that's why I'm so hyped. :)
 
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big_z

Member
eXistor said:
Awesome, we're bound to get it tuesday then (we don't get stock on monday). Can't wait. I'm counting on Brütal Legend to be the one big release this year not to disappoint. Uncharted 2 might join that small club too, but we'll see.
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most stores already have the game, its just not on the shelf. i went out yesterday looking for it early but i guess no employee slip ups this time.



edit: when do the reviews go up?
 
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V_Ben

Banned
saunderez said:
Wow....are we even playing the same game? Apart from the audio quips which I agree with I've had absolutely no control or camera issues in my play time. I feel like I know the major characters intimately at this point and I'm probably 5 hours in too. I also understand whats going on in the story which differs from your experience. I've had no issues driving and very few control related deaths. And there's definitely no lack of humour, even compared to Psychonauts. My issues mainly stem from the RTS segments which I haven't quite mastered yet, apart from that I'm having an exceptional time with the game. Sure the side missions are pointless and repetitive, but show me an open world game where that isn't the case. This game is definitely shaping up to be a 9 for me and I'm not even a fan of metal.
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aaand the world is a better place once more.
 
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saunderez

Member
RPGCrazied said:
long as it isnt really 6hours long, im ok
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I'm (at a guess) 5 hours in and I don't feel like I'm a long way through the story yet. I've done every side mission up to this point and a lot of exploring for the collectibles, its feeling like this will be a 20-25 hour game if you want to do and see everything.
 
RPGCrazied

RPGCrazied

Member
about the framerate problems, i did notice them in teh demo.. so its in the final game?

id rather take those, then screen tearing though. . does installing the game help at all?
 
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mjc

Member
I'm really crossing my fingers on this one, I could see critical response going either way to be honest.
 
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saunderez

Member
RPGCrazied said:
about the framerate problems, i did notice them in teh demo.. so its in the final game?
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It's a bit variable at times, not bad enough to annoy me though. I am playing installed so I have no idea if that made a difference.
 
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Kifimbo

Member
It's NOT a 5-6 hours game.

Most reviews are under embargo until the 13th.

I need help on the hunting missions. The third one I think.
 
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saunderez

Member
Kifimbo said:
I need help on the hunting missions. The third one I think.
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After the part where you have to herd the boars to Ophelia just stand up on the stairs and take them out with lightning or fireballs. Run down to aggro them and then run up and kill them. Rinse and repeat 10 times.
RPGCrazied said:
oh well, no screen tearing tho?
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Not that I've noticed, no.
Cant0na said:
how big is the install
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I'll have to check when I get home.
 
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Kifimbo

Member
saunderez said:
After the part where you have to herd the boars to Ophelia just stand up on the stairs and take them out with lightning or fireballs. Run down to aggro them and then run up and kill them. Rinse and repeat 10 times.
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I forgot what the razor boars were. I was killing other creatures and nothing was happening.


can you listen to metal music outside the car? They should've made an mp3 player accessory or something. :p
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As far as I now, no you can't, unless you are close to your car.
 
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BobTheFork

Member
If anyone has to type up that much about what they hate, they must need to prove the point very badly. This game is going to be so good :D
 
Dr. Kitty Muffins

Dr. Kitty Muffins

Member
saunderez said:
Wow....are we even playing the same game? Apart from the audio quips which I agree with I've had absolutely no control or camera issues in my play time. I feel like I know the major characters intimately at this point and I'm probably 5 hours in too. I also understand whats going on in the story which differs from your experience. I've had no issues driving and very few control related deaths. And there's definitely no lack of humour, even compared to Psychonauts. My issues mainly stem from the RTS segments which I haven't quite mastered yet, apart from that I'm having an exceptional time with the game. Sure the side missions are pointless and repetitive, but show me an open world game where that isn't the case. This game is definitely shaping up to be a 9 for me and I'm not even a fan of metal.
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