KainXVIII
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But online resources can be easily stolen =( And i have so little of it..
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Metal Gear Solid V: Forward Operating Base (FOB)
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KyanMehwulfe
Member
yeah it's a cool little theme to it too, I like that it's Mosquito's PF with a unique logo rather than just something nameless and random
maybe if we beat all 7 platforms, we'll unlock his logo at the end of the event
I sort of am biased though I think because I use Mosquito all the time and I replayed Mission 22 a bunch of times until I was able to finally to a total stealth/non-lethal playthrough
Unprocessed materials can be stolen. I don't think processed online materials (which is what you need to build nukes) can be stolen from FOBs but this is all new so I can't say for certain.
Srey Plaughtered
Member
I decided to grind resources today to start building a Nuke and saw this. Man this is some serious bullshit. How does one get more processed resources online?
I just want to plat the game and properly start MGO, why you add more annoyances Konami. :'(
Will that work for sure? I just might have to do that.
Edit: Yeah disconnecting makes it require offline resources, fantastic.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
this has become my favorite way to defend a FOB 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7FJHj2rQTw
soooo satisfying, basically feels like you're physically making him GTFO hehehe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7FJHj2rQTw
soooo satisfying, basically feels like you're physically making him GTFO
hehehethis has become my favorite way to defend a FOB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7FJHj2rQTw
soooo satisfying, basically feels like you're physically making him GTFO
That was pretty satisfying
I had a cheater with infinite ammo infinite health spamming a Stun smg with no recoil at me from across the fob, had to let him get close and use Cheater Quelling Countermeasures (CQC) on his bitch ass and fulton him
RandomExpletive
Member
damn wish you hadn't said that, I was tense enough playing last night, now I know the guy could've come to defend!
Holy shit ghosting a 4/4 strut is the absolute craziest thing ever, I was able to roll through the first one, got stuck for a bit on the 2nd, breezed through the third, only to absolutely shit myself but make it through the 4th, I wish my 560 had shadowplay, shit was tense AF
I got lucky and had earlier pulled the guy on the upper level down to the stairs over on the right, but holy crap I was sweating bullets climbing that ladder and jumping across to the goal
YianGaruga
Banned
So is there a limit to how often you can get invaded while inactive? Or is everyone who comes back after a month or two going to find an empty mother base and his GMP deep in the red because of defense costs?
Damn I dodged a bullet there. I developed the nuke 2 or 3 days before the update.
this has become my favorite way to defend a FOB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7FJHj2rQTw
soooo satisfying, basically feels like you're physically making him GTFO
grats on defending your fob dude
Unless you go on a monster invading spree yourself, the chances of actually getting invaded seem pretty minimal.
Since the game came out I've invaded 5 people (for that event they held with extra prizes) and been invaded twice in return (both of whom nabbed some fuel, but not much else).
It's really not a big deal, unless you open yourself up for it to become a big deal.
YianGaruga
Banned
Well then lets extend those 1-2 months to 6 months.
I do actively invade people but I also get invaded back pretty much once a day.
Over time people will invade you unless there is some kind of limit if you're inactive long enough. Just curious if anybody knew but I gues snot since Konami doesn't explain shit
YianGaruga
Banned
It pushed me away from the game completely. I only have some objectives and S ranks left but I won't bother if Konami intends to make the game worse with every patch
Facism
Member
who knows? I came back after 2 weeks and was 1.5 million in the red :3
I just removed all my staff and am spending 0 on readiness, now. Can't be assed with this crooked mode.
YianGaruga
Banned
haha this is what I was worried about.
Sounds great
I wonder if Konami has thought this through at all
FOBs will live on PC where we don't have anything else.
is there any way to check which of the mosquito's platforms (the new event) i have infiltrated?. also, if i do all of them, do i receive some sort of extra reward?
because i've infiltrated the intel one, and got few resources and shit gmp.
i just want to know if it's worth it. thanks
because i've infiltrated the intel one, and got few resources and shit gmp.
i just want to know if it's worth it. thanks
KyanMehwulfe
Member
if you research battle armor (it'll say equipable by security team), they'll wear those balaclavas with small green armour
likewise for the sneaking suit, they'll wear gas masks instead
likewise for the sneaking suit, they'll wear gas masks instead
Dick Justice
Banned
What the fuck, I keep getting invaded by this one guy over and over again. He invaded me twice while I was offline, i retaliated with no alert, and then he invades twice again. Using the 3 day insurance trial which mitigates it, but it's still bullshit.
What the fuck, I keep getting invaded by this one guy over and over again. He invaded me twice while I was offline, i retaliated with no alert, and then he invades twice again. Using the 3 day insurance trial which mitigates it, but it's still bullshit.
Sounds like it's working as Konami intended.
What the fuck, I keep getting invaded by this one guy over and over again. He invaded me twice while I was offline, i retaliated with no alert, and then he invades twice again. Using the 3 day insurance trial which mitigates it, but it's still bullshit.
So there are hackers on PS4 now?
Foxhound286
Member
Well yesterday I completely botched an invasion. I decided to invade a decently defended FOB. I thought that I could do it.
Right away i'm spotted by two guards. They don't have helmets, so I figured they'd be easy to tranq. But instead of pullng out the tranq gun, I pulled out the rocket fist. I didn't realize this until I shot it, and watched in slow motion as they sounded the alarm, and I got slaughtered. From now on i'm just going to use the regular arm.
Right away i'm spotted by two guards. They don't have helmets, so I figured they'd be easy to tranq. But instead of pullng out the tranq gun, I pulled out the rocket fist. I didn't realize this until I shot it, and watched in slow motion as they sounded the alarm, and I got slaughtered. From now on i'm just going to use the regular arm.
Dick Justice
Banned
PC version.
Haunted
Member
Being able to opt out would defeat the whole purpose of their threat generation system in the first place.
For those wanting to know where these kinds of systems come from, how they work psychologically, there's a great article on Gamasutra (about this tactic in mobile F2P games, but Kojipro/Konami implemented this 1:1 in MGSV).
F2P: Threat Generation
YianGaruga
Banned
You don't need to read an article to undertsand why they're doing it
It's still bullshit since this isn't a F2P game
Zombegoast
Member
Yeah after yesterday, I'm done dealing with FOB. When in the last strut, it's impossible to hide after entering in a alert because the Security guard will straight up cheat.
What the fuck, I keep getting invaded by this one guy over and over again. He invaded me twice while I was offline, i retaliated with no alert, and then he invades twice again. Using the 3 day insurance trial which mitigates it, but it's still bullshit.
Maybe it's a Konami employee
Need to be sure people will buy the insurance.
Dick Justice
Banned
Got to the objective in an FOB, Snake just stands there like a dumb fuck while the guards are still looking for me. Buggy load of shit.
The door doesn't open if there's a combat alert.
Dick Justice
Banned
No alert. Was standing right inside, and it was just stuck there.
Jeevesmeister
Banned
I feel like I'm getting a lot better recruits replaying the story missions - is there any point to going non-lethal during the FOB missions if that's the case? I actually managed to do a 3/4 today with the Battle Dress, the pump action stun shotgun, the American semi-auto sniper rifle loaded with .308, and the tranq pistol, but I ended up having to cheese the guards a bit with the box and hiding the 2-3 times I popped the alarm.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
i have a lot of trouble jumping across railings... anyone else find the window awfully short. i'even went into practice FOBs just to practice it but the way it triggers is so odd.
this is what i mean... doing a jump across railings like this... much of the time I try do this, because the window for it disappears so quickly and is replacing with climbing, i just hop over the railing and hang lol
best thing i found was to just walk very slow toward it but even then if you try to reactively press it, the window is too small... usually better to just tap Action before you actually approach the railing so it's already being spammed soon as the jump window does appear. i dunno feels a bit odd.
but i mean, if you're 3/4 battle dress and into FOBs, you may no longer care about scores and especially heroism. i mean, non-lethal will improve your worldwide pvp rank more but it's an efficiency trade off, too... you may get less score per FOB but going lethal can maybe farm FOBs even faster. so over 5 hours you probably level up the ladder more. most of the high rank players i've seen go lethal with that lethal AM sniper.
this is what i mean... doing a jump across railings like this... much of the time I try do this, because the window for it disappears so quickly and is replacing with climbing, i just hop over the railing and hang lol
best thing i found was to just walk very slow toward it but even then if you try to reactively press it, the window is too small... usually better to just tap Action before you actually approach the railing so it's already being spammed soon as the jump window does appear. i dunno feels a bit odd.
well you get a higher score... more heroism, too. plus you can fulton/recruit them for a higher score/heroism too.
but i mean, if you're 3/4 battle dress and into FOBs, you may no longer care about scores and especially heroism. i mean, non-lethal will improve your worldwide pvp rank more but it's an efficiency trade off, too... you may get less score per FOB but going lethal can maybe farm FOBs even faster. so over 5 hours you probably level up the ladder more. most of the high rank players i've seen go lethal with that lethal AM sniper.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Is there any point in really going non-lethal for your FOB security?
I also watched someone an hour or so ago keep doing the dive move and they made it all the way to the last platform before I stopped them with rubber bullets or whatever the stun assault rifle uses. That was interesting...
Now if only the game would stop taking my offline gained resources and putting them online, including vehicles and armaments that until it starting doing that I was selling for extra GMP past a certain number. <_<
That would be nice but it doesn't seem so. It's kind of annoying like other aspects of this FOB mess.
I also watched someone an hour or so ago keep doing the dive move and they made it all the way to the last platform before I stopped them with rubber bullets or whatever the stun assault rifle uses. That was interesting...
Now if only the game would stop taking my offline gained resources and putting them online, including vehicles and armaments that until it starting doing that I was selling for extra GMP past a certain number. <_<
That would be nice but it doesn't seem so. It's kind of annoying like other aspects of this FOB mess.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
yeah there isn't. if you do the last one though you get a S+ solder again just like the first time you did one. would be cool if there was a Mosquito logo surprise reward at the end of the event though.
They get shields and are a PITA to deal with fully leveled vs 1 shot stunning with the Uragan Stun-slug 5 shot hand cannon
akachan ningen
Member
What can you buy with mb coins besides insurance and gear in mgo?
RandomExpletive
Member
Extra FOB's for single player. Save that shit for the swimsuit gear!
Hopefully they keep giving em out as login rewards, I'd hate to blow 1k MB coins on swimwear and then see something better come out...
KyanMehwulfe
Member
NL get gas masks too which helps with hope popular smoke is on FOBs
I like short range and shields now too because obviously shields help a lot versus grenade launchers or run and gunning with a AM semi-auto sniper rifle... but I feel like short range AI is different, too.... long range snipers sit back and let the Invader hide on the stairs and heal.... I mean, it's like the SP, right? who were the most annoying in-your-face NPCs? guys with shields and shotguns... they always charged you more. that's useful against Invaders that want to hang back, hide, kite, etc to snipe, lose alert, etc... more important than 'added armor' or faster killing is keeping the Invader in Combat Alert and suppressed... and NL short range guards that have shields or shotguns, and gas masks, seem the most annoying in terms of... they chase you more, get in close range and chase you downstairs more, you can't just smoke grenade 'em to sleep cuz the gas masks... harder to grenade laucher them to death cuz the shields protect against grenades... they basically bum rush you more and are harder to neutralize.
I like short range and shields now too because obviously shields help a lot versus grenade launchers or run and gunning with a AM semi-auto sniper rifle... but I feel like short range AI is different, too.... long range snipers sit back and let the Invader hide on the stairs and heal.... I mean, it's like the SP, right? who were the most annoying in-your-face NPCs? guys with shields and shotguns... they always charged you more. that's useful against Invaders that want to hang back, hide, kite, etc to snipe, lose alert, etc... more important than 'added armor' or faster killing is keeping the Invader in Combat Alert and suppressed... and NL short range guards that have shields or shotguns, and gas masks, seem the most annoying in terms of... they chase you more, get in close range and chase you downstairs more, you can't just smoke grenade 'em to sleep cuz the gas masks... harder to grenade laucher them to death cuz the shields protect against grenades... they basically bum rush you more and are harder to neutralize.
I actually rolled back my MGSV to Beta 1.007 on steam and now my game is forbidden from going online unless I let it update, it's been great.
I was completely screwed when I invaded a guy's base with a sleep grenade launcher and every soldier in the base had gas masks haha
I can't pick the weapons they use, right?
I can only pick letal/non-lethal or weapon rage, I assum
endlessflood
Member
I just logged in after only about 12 hours and my 100,000 GMP has been replaced with a 400,000 GMP deficit. WTF?!! I've never completed the FOB tutorial so surely it can't be that, can it? Is there some way to check if your FOB has been attacked? Nothing shows up in the log.
Lionheart1827
Member
You weren't attacked, they put some weird change into the game that was implemented after the last patch. If you go online it will take a bunch of your resources and put them "online" for no reason. This includes the resources, vehicles, weapons, plants, etc. I haven't gone online since before the patch so I haven't seen it for myself.
endlessflood
Member
Hmm, sounds like that might have been it. Wow. I've never seen a company try to screw over their player base the way Konami has with this game.
The sooner these guys exit the business the better.
Celestial Mortal
Member
Look who lost...
Oh fuck you Konami. Got a message that my fob was being invaded. Hopped in, got into a sniper position and had the sucker completely pinned down. Until I got a disconnected message and I was thrown out of the game, and now I can't even get into my own FoB to defend it, giving the guy clear space to do whatever the hell he wants. Bullshit.