Professor Beef
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Then buy that version instead. Problem solved.
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Fire Emblem Fates' localization doesn't have the petting minigame
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Then buy that version instead. Problem solved.
TriAceJP
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The west gets the game.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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There are only two same sex options (one for male/male and another for female/female) and one of them is apparently a sociopath so despite the effort being appreciated, the options aren't terribly attractive.
It's probably less about laziness and more about a lack of time available. The longer this takes to release, the closer and closer it gets to being zero spotlights available once the NX barrage hits. FE may be more popular these days, but it's still no Zelda.
NeoHorizon
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Nope lol. I been using this name since 2012. Didn't see someone to using 'horizon' in their username before I got into Gaf.Is this your alt?
On topic, I'm very disappointed with the way things NoA are handling localization. This could only mean #FE will have significant changes and I'm talking about the swimsuits in-game. I would hate to see that one go.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
One and done
Good bye and good riddance. That thing was creepy and I'm sure they didn't want the backlash from it.
What exactly does not having face petting in have to do with being "backwards and conservative"? It's just creepy whether it's women or men.
The Yo Tornado
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Well, at least that fan-translation has an actual point now disregarding people who couldn't wait eight months. (I may or may not have been one of those people.)
But yeah, I thought it was weird as hell, and although I tried it a few times because it supposedly increased support rates, it was unbelievably uncomfortable and I can't say I'm going to miss it.
To be fair, one of Awakening's most popular females was a sociopath in a very similar vein, so at least they're consistent there. The biggest issue is that you lose out on units by going the same-sex route. Fates is one of the most outlandish games I've ever played in terms of ass-pulls and things happening simply because things dictate they do so, so I really don't understand why they couldn't use some sort of dragon magic to let those pairings get the kid units anyways.
But yeah, I thought it was weird as hell, and although I tried it a few times because it supposedly increased support rates, it was unbelievably uncomfortable and I can't say I'm going to miss it.
To be fair, one of Awakening's most popular females was a sociopath in a very similar vein, so at least they're consistent there. The biggest issue is that you lose out on units by going the same-sex route. Fates is one of the most outlandish games I've ever played in terms of ass-pulls and things happening simply because things dictate they do so, so I really don't understand why they couldn't use some sort of dragon magic to let those pairings get the kid units anyways.
partyphone
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I hate this attitude. more doesn't always mean better. it's how games have become big, bloated nightmares. they need more content than the last one.
SenorArdilla
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At least the Vita is region-free.
It looks like I might have to wait for the fan translation depending on the extent of the changes.
Air Zombie Meat
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I've read it raised character affinity. I know it's my own fault for being a completionist but I'd have felt the need to do it just for that. I don't have a problem with other people that wanted it left in, just personally prefer it gone.
So you would be fine with localization teams cutting any minor content and game features they want solely to reduce costs?
Yeah, buying the version of the game that's completely in Japanese for your region-locked handheld is a great idea.
YoYo Switch
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Sigh. I don't care anymore. I'm broken
I'll see how I feel come February. It was a stupid mode and I was barely gonna use it but I'm glad it existed cuz it made me laugh it was in.
I don't like when things are changed because someone out there on a high horse wants to be offended for other people. I think it's great that all manner of things exist for all kinds of people. I don't want things to become homogenized
But I dunno. I've lost. I've lost it all
I'm gonna throw up. I feel sick
Sigh
I'll buy it anyway
I'll see how I feel come February. It was a stupid mode and I was barely gonna use it but I'm glad it existed cuz it made me laugh it was in.
I don't like when things are changed because someone out there on a high horse wants to be offended for other people. I think it's great that all manner of things exist for all kinds of people. I don't want things to become homogenized
But I dunno. I've lost. I've lost it all
I'm gonna throw up. I feel sick
Sigh
I'll buy it anyway
ElephantShell
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Yeah I'm not complaining, I would never do that if it was optional so I don't care if it's not in the game.
Dandy Crocodile
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Shame it's gone.
I'll live but I would have liked to play the mode.
I'll live but I would have liked to play the mode.
Professor Beef
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Well you've waited this long, a little longer won't hurt.
If costs are prohibitively expensive and would otherwise prevent the release, sure.
Is that the case here? Who knows. We don't even know if it was purely cost savings.
I can understand this argument if you think that this detracts from developer resources that could be used elsewhere, but this is cutting already finished content.
Hellwarden
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The feature was dumb, but removing it is silly, especially since it was completely optional.
Oh well.
Oh well.
Less also doesn't mean better either. In this case we're losing an optional minigame and potentially dialogue as well for nothing in return. It's not like they're going to put more effort into the core gameplay at this point.
If you are getting this emotionally wrecked and feeling like you're going to throw up because of a petting minigame in a Fire Emblem game I think you might genuinely need help to be honest.
If it is the difference between getting the game in English or not, yes.
Probably not the case with Fates though.
I'm not saying it's super important by any means but I personally see the lines as charming and for people who already like the romance aspects, it adds a few extra moments with characters your care for. Also I did point out that some people had more/ better things to say than others.
Not having the content in the game isn't a deal breaker for me since I'm more interested in the combat and overall story. I'm sad it isn't there and I think its worthwhile but losing it does not ruin the game.
User 73706
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Now I'm curious to see just how mad the internet would be if they only kept in the petting minigame for the gay options.
Professor Beef
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You act like content has never been cut ever before in the history of game development. If I got upset every single time it happened, I would be the Incredible Hulk.
Buy a JPN 3DS and the JPN game, then. Either that, or vote with your wallet and don't support the US release.
SenorArdilla
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I want my otome simulator. I'm still pissed that NoA didn't bother to localize the FREE boyfriend DLC for Style Savvy Trendsetters.
Exterminieren
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Good riddance.
I have a certain amount of sympathy with this, but I can't help but think it's reaching a bit (platonically rubbing guys' faces is absolutely no substitute for actually meaningful LGBT content), and I CERTAINLY don't think what it's what the vast majority of the defenders of this have in mind.
I have a certain amount of sympathy with this, but I can't help but think it's reaching a bit (platonically rubbing guys' faces is absolutely no substitute for actually meaningful LGBT content), and I CERTAINLY don't think what it's what the vast majority of the defenders of this have in mind.
TriAceJP
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Yes? You do realize how many games the west doesn't get, right? It's that or nothing.
How did people get to be so entitled?
yes and thats what i say, i dont care if an easy make more people play the game good for them.
I will not use it but i dont want to remove it if the developers put it in the game.
thats not fucking fair and you know it.
and if it was that simple, then why couldn't people who didn't like just ignore it?
Its funny how "deal with it" suddenly becomes an legit option when the shoe it turned...
This is why we should remove marriage altogether
I didn't suggest face petting, itself, was forward-thinking or worthwhile. I'm saying I think the reason for its removal might be rooted in fear of conservative families taking issue with the visual of men physically touching men. NOA might feel like they're already pushing things with the few LGBT relationships in the game. They still strike me as a very cautious company in this regard.
Thanks. Yeah, it's incredibly frustrating to see so many people in support of its removal while I'm sure they're not realizing this perspective.
I'm honestly considering whether or not I should try to raise awareness of this like I did for Tomodachi Life, but I'm not sure it would really matter much at this point. I like to think that the Miiquality campaign at least partially influenced Nintendo's decision to add same-sex marriage and intimacy in Fire Emblem Fates, so it was a win in that sense (and we're still waiting to see what may come of a new Tomodachi Life game), but now we're losing a big part of that in the localization... Of course, there's not going to be any changes to the game before release now since the localization is already done, and I highly doubt they'd bother patching it in later since that would mean more text and voice to localize... This whole situation just sucks. =/
Scientist Supreme!
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Reading some post and being bi this decision kinda sucks.
Not enough to not buy the game but still.
Not enough to not buy the game but still.
They're getting something at least.
The exclamation point that triggers a petting scene was shown in the Amiibo video.
Who knows what it is now.
TriAceJP
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You and me, both. But to be fair, us two and maybe 5 other people actually play that game on this side of the world.
I'm really cool with Phoenix mode as normal mode isn't now stupid easy.
Captainbojanglesiii
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Having that minigame in the game honestly made me uncomfortable, and I'm very glad it's gone.
I also don't understand how removing this alone is going to affect people's decision to buy the game, but to each their own.
Take a step back and think about this for a minute. Or go talk to someone about this. No need to get physically sick over a localization choice of optional content in a video game.
I also don't understand how removing this alone is going to affect people's decision to buy the game, but to each their own.
Is this a real post? Come on, man.
Take a step back and think about this for a minute. Or go talk to someone about this. No need to get physically sick over a localization choice of optional content in a video game.
That's not what I'm saying or asking. The way you laughed at the assumption that amount of content should be equal between regions, it makes it seem like you do not care how truncated a game is when it is received overseas. What if a game was not prohibitively expensive, but a localization team came to realize there are people with your mindset who won't care how much gets cut off the game, no matter how innocuous the content is? They could save a lot of money by cutting content all over the place, and they would judge that their audience would be okay with it or even defend it.
You're looking too far into my question. I'm not talking about a situation where the West gets a game or not. Not everything is black and white. I'm talking about situations where a localization team can bring a game over with 100% content, but they decide to cut off several minor features that most of the consumers won't miss.
Fan translations typically lose whatever steam they had when an official localized version is released. Most people playing don't give a shit to the extent needed to bother with homebrew to get around minor censorship/cut features. Fan translators are going to get more attention translating unavailable games than they will reversing localization changes.
Instead of bothering with Fates, people should be working on better translation patches for the SNES games.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Call me old fashioned but I don't see how a person-petting mini game can be creepy for straight people and not creepy for non-straight people.
The game was coming over anyway. This isn't some obscure niche series anymore. Fire Emblem is back as a tentpole series for Nintendo.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Of course. At the end of the day, if the series lost all of the characters and was just abstract geometric shapes vs abstract geometric shapes in entirely blank environments I'd still buy it, because it's a good game, and supporting those takes precedence for me. I'm still going to voice my opinion, however, and people that care more about this particular removed content will choose not to purchase it.
I just think that if this was done to make the game more comfortable for american audiences, it's an entirely hypocritical point when you can point out things that are a thousand times worse that are entirely ignored.
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