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Xbox Project Scorpio Announced - 6TFlops, 320GB/s - Fall 2017
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I have forza Apex ta, and my rig runs a splendidly locked 60fps at 4k
But your point is,,,,,pointless, scorpio is not out yet, hell according to the youtube stream MS only told devs about it weeks ago.
Yes they are, but clearly some people don;t get that part.
Uh... c'mon now.
There is a big difference with changing a policy and performance targets.
I have forza Apex ta, and my rig runs a splendidly locked 60fps at 4k
But your point is,,,,,pointless, scorpio is not out yet, hell according to the youtube stream MS only told devs about it weeks ago.
My point isn't pointless, in fact... your point is pointless because there are zero reason to believe they would do what you're claiming.
In fact "Playing Without Boundaries" was a big part of their conference.
ethomaz
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They said native 1080p framebuffer before.
It's Intel and AMD processor core speeds all over again...
DaleinCalgary
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Sign me up, finally get a xbox one/scorpio.
I may be dead of old age before it comes out though
I may be dead of old age before it comes out though
are you referring to the xbox one here? plenty of games are 1080 on that console.
That is true, but MS cannot tell every publisher what to do, and there are some mighty lazy devs out there.
Pretty much. Neat though since it is a far better proposition for those that might be entering a particular ecosystem or moving from a very old console. Buying an Xbox One or even the S right now might not be as worthwhile, but I suspect if they keep the 3 tiers, people may stick to the same level through each "gen" or the more hardcore go for every other one or subsequent consoles. More choice is good, but MS isn't going to be pushing too far for the sake of cost at the time
dr_rus
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They're not actually. It's the non-teraflops stuff which is completely different and which results in less effectiveness of AMD's teraflops for gaming performance.
Please, educate us all?
If PS4K is $399 this fall then Scorpio will be $399 next fall. 45% more GPU power is around the normal progress of 12 months.
ethomaz
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Most are sub-1080p... native 1080p are exceptions.
Tinúviel;206850772 said:
Pretty clear they are going for 4K gameplay. Which should be possible with optimized SOC architecture.
Also interesting was when Larry asked Phil about people choosing to wait for Scorpio vs XB1 S. Phil said they wanted to give people that choice. The two will obviously have price difference so its more about what the customer wants and their budget.
Allonym
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What incentive would people have to buy games on the Scorpio then? Having better graphics? I don't think people would invest in a Scorpio if the exact same games are available between the consoles. The graphics won't be a gen jump, I believe we're talking about the differences between medium settings and high/ultra when it comes to visual fidelity. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I feel like it's a mistake on Microsoft's part and Scorpio is a big gamble that may not pay off.
Then PS4K.5 will be $399 in 2018 with 25% more GPU power than Scorpio
I can feel that cycle
SEGAvangelist
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But it looks like it'll be 45% or so, right?
Pretty much all the games that the mass market cares about are on both consoles (and pc)
element
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Come on. People aren't writing assembly code. Vulkan and DX12 open things up, but seriously. This "to the metal" crap needs to stop.
That is actually a really good point, might be worth tweeting Phil
Mixolydian
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That's up to the dev and what kind of graphical flourishes (or ai behavior/game features) they add to the game. There is no guarantee on something like framerate; it's not some promise by MS.
LlamaJohnson
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Exactly. Everyone can play on the device they can afford. I don't get the hate.
True! Maths...
Xenon - In the the HD Era
Scorpio - Beyond Generations
Phil is adopting the same approach, dev prioritization, creating a very human-built device
shark sandwich
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I actually thought this was really cool of Microsoft. Imagine if they announced Scorpio like 3 months after One S launched.
Mixolydian
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Good. This will lead to more online fan boy wars, which will lead to increased cases of carpal tunnel, which will lead to less fanboy wars.
My logic is undeniable, sound, and completely rational.
I would actually be pretty surprised if more than a handful of AAA games ultimately target 4K. I could see Forza 7 because it will probably be one of the big launch games and it is certainly feasible for that series, but I doubt it will be the norm.
Piku_Ringo
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Not sure how this is "going the way of PC". Last I checked, neither the Scorpio or Neo offered modular hardware components. Unless you just mean "less time between upgrades" and "more expensive to remain current"... which is more the Mac/phone/tablet model, than desktop PC gaming.
mugurumakensei
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The biggest reason AMD flops haven't been worth the same as nVidias has been due to drivers on PC. That's a good 80% why. It's why AMD has shown much more substantial gains with DX12.
I have forza Apex ta, and my rig runs a splendidly locked 60fps at 4k
But your point is,,,,,pointless, scorpio is not out yet, hell according to the youtube stream MS only told devs about it weeks ago..
The bolded aspect is interesting and the feeling that i got from the press conference. The specifications Microsoft mentioned are most likely the target specs, there is no guarantee that those will be the final specification, they could be better or they could be worse. The fact they had nothing tangible to say besides 6TF is telling in itself. I've said this before, but scorpio and the announcement today are microsoft's 'panicked' reaction to the leaks about Sony's neo.
OdysseusVA
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shitty ports is not the same as locking to "console" settings
Obscuritas
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Xenon - In the the HD Era
Scorpio - Beyond Generations
Scorpio even gives you your hair back
Jessie.Bristol
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Just announced, devs making games now for Xbox One can toggle a scaling option for Scorpio.
dr_rus
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The teraflops can't be different because these are just peak throughput numbers which are counted in the exact same way. The perceived difference comes from the fact that AMD GPUs are more bottlenecked by the frontend and backend stuff (the h/w which sits before and after SIMDs like schedulers, geometry setup engines, tessellators, ROPs, memory controllers, etc.) and thus their real world processing h/w utilization is lower than that of NV. This has been changing slowly lately in part thanks to GCN console h/w influencing how the games code is balanced against the capabilities of h/w - and AMD teraflops utilization were moving closer to that of NV thanks to this. I won't be too surprised if by the time of Scorpio's launch the real world performance will be pretty similar between the same TF rated AMD and NV GPUs.
The Hermit
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Good. Let it die like the non NN3DS.
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