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Donald J. Trump elected 45th President of the United States
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isn't a president protected from lawsuits?
Presenting centrism as this wise, pragmatic, smart, realistic strategy, calling both sides out for vilifying each other and endorsing compromises feels the most empty and vacuous thing to say at this point. Besides false equivalence, Trump did not employ such a strategy and he won so. Identifying specific faults would be more illuminating.
The Elite
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Would that move the VP into power?
RPGCrazied
Member
I'm hoping for some large protests during him being sworn in, and the entirety of his time in office.
Fox Mulder
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The crazies pushed Trump past a huge field of established actual republican politicians. The DNC favored Clinton from the inside because it was her turn.
300+ million people and this is what we had.
Directly? No, there would have to be such an outcry that the GOP can't ignore it. He would have to mess up royally for that to happen though.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Its due to start in December, so he technically won't be President yet.
Don't see why the Repubs, who will control every branch, would impeach themselves.
Reckheim
Member
It didn't work when the republicans were upset that Obama got elected, what makes this situation any different?
Half of the US voted for him, you'd need a much bigger majority to even consider it (or a military coup)
He won't be President until January.
first of all, he must do something like an impeachable offense, somebody files it in Congress
but you want Pence instead?
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
So honest question from a non American
Does this election have the potential to actually be the catalyst for an official 3rd party in the U.S.?
With so many republicans distancing themselves from Trump and the general apathy to vote for Hillary from small Democrats, could a centralist party form?
Or is that just not an option in American Politics where is in Canada that seems to be fairly easy thing to do with support(Relatively speaking.)
Does this election have the potential to actually be the catalyst for an official 3rd party in the U.S.?
With so many republicans distancing themselves from Trump and the general apathy to vote for Hillary from small Democrats, could a centralist party form?
Or is that just not an option in American Politics where is in Canada that seems to be fairly easy thing to do with support(Relatively speaking.)
Beerman462
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This is what happens when you have two very polarizing candidates.
it vanished into thin air
The Rain King
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It's heart breaking.
What about if he becomes a warcriminal?
StrategyFan
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it comes down to primaries
the DNC was incompetent (they failed to pick a candidate who could beat trump)
the republicans had like 11 candidates or something so the most anti-establishment candidate won the primary because people hate the system
It's not an option. And really the Republican Party is stronger than ever. America as a whole has completely rejected liberalism last night.
Johnny Cage In The Shower
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I cannot even muster the energy to watch Trump give a speech as "president", my nerves can't handle it. I am getting depressed and infuriated...watching his smug face. I cannot listen to anything this guy has to say for the next 4 years and take it seriously.
Never thought in million years I'd feel this way about a US president.
Never thought in million years I'd feel this way about a US president.
Audioboxer
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Sure, but that's my point. You were never going to beat the Trump campaign at trolling.
Bernie might have had a chance being effective at fighting Trumps corruption and scandal, but having Hillary as your main candidate to go after said things backfired spectacularly. Hence the Clinton campaign regardless of good intention just spent too much time trying to out-Trump Trump.
From the second Trump uttered Crooked Hillary, she was unable to shake it. Sadly, but as I have admitted I am not her biggest fan and I don't think many were. That has lead to Trumps campaign unfortunately fostering such resentment to Hillary, deserved or not.
newshinycd
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GOP doesn't have 60 votes in the Senate and they aren't going to get rid of the filibuster. That means GOP has to actually do things and govern. All the GOP has done the last few years is say "no" and "Democrats are bad!"
Now that America has given them a chance (why), expect any new laws to go under a microscope. Any law that causes more issues than solves = bad for GOP.
GOP will flock again to Trump because he won, there is already was a 3rd party, Johnson lol
Ironic, considering how things turned out.
Obama used Super pacs. Nominated two judges that oppose citizen's united. And if you're referring to speeches, they don't really say what you're saying they say. Regardless this is pointless now. Hillary will never again be a force in politics. Congratulations.
Yeah really, never thought I'd long for the days of seeing GWB.
God damn, I cannot believe I am still awake. I've been up all night. Can't sleep. My wife can't sleep. She was a wreck earlier, but seems to have calmed down a little. I hate seeing her like this. I powered up the PS4 to play some games, but I can't bring myself to play anything. I really need to go to sleep, but I'm not looking forward to the dreams. The sun is already coming up. Sigh. What have you done, America? What the fuck have you done?
Fuck I am so ashamed to be an American. I'm also afraid, once again, that I'm black. I fear for the minorities, women, and LGBT citizens. The fallout of this election is going to be felt for a very long time. All that progress. 8 years of progress is going to be undone. It wasn't all perfect, but things were moving forward. Slowly, but still forward. People were starting to feel proud of being an American. We had a President that conducted himself with class and dignity. Now we get Donald fucking Trump. Sigh. What have you fucking done, America? It must feel really good to be a non-minority or non-marginalized group, and be able to just brush this election off and go on about your business. I don't mean that as a criticism, I just imagine it's got to feel nice. For everyone else, this is a disaster. It feels bad. Real bad.
Fuck I am so ashamed to be an American. I'm also afraid, once again, that I'm black. I fear for the minorities, women, and LGBT citizens. The fallout of this election is going to be felt for a very long time. All that progress. 8 years of progress is going to be undone. It wasn't all perfect, but things were moving forward. Slowly, but still forward. People were starting to feel proud of being an American. We had a President that conducted himself with class and dignity. Now we get Donald fucking Trump. Sigh. What have you fucking done, America? It must feel really good to be a non-minority or non-marginalized group, and be able to just brush this election off and go on about your business. I don't mean that as a criticism, I just imagine it's got to feel nice. For everyone else, this is a disaster. It feels bad. Real bad.
Fox Mulder
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This should kill third parties really. It only causes one of the two real choices to lose votes.
Heckler456
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Trump will do a passable job for everything in the short-term, while fucking everything up in the long-term. No one cares for the long-term, as is quite evident by the fact that a large portion of the American public is willing to potentially sign away the rights of people other than themselves without realizing what kind of implications that stuff has, so people's coin will drop in hindsight instead of when it should have: Before this dunce got elected. Nothing will change.
At any rate, I'm kind of staying hopeful in the knowledge that the progression of these kinds of social issues tend to work like a pendulum, but that progress will be made regardless, in the long-term. We're just on a back-swing right now, so let's do our best to make sure this idiot doesn't break the fucking clock.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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just woke. only had about 3 hours of sleep
i'm still in dismay
the feeling of waking from a fuckin nightmare.
I'm not the most well versed in politics, so maybe someone can enlighten. My biggest worry here is that checks & balance stuff. Is this country really changing direction at a snap of the finger just like that...Since the Republicans taking 2 and likely the third branch? or is there still a big form of power within local/state governments?
i'm still in dismay
the feeling of waking from a fuckin nightmare.
I'm not the most well versed in politics, so maybe someone can enlighten. My biggest worry here is that checks & balance stuff. Is this country really changing direction at a snap of the finger just like that...Since the Republicans taking 2 and likely the third branch? or is there still a big form of power within local/state governments?
RPGCrazied
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Yeah. Its time for an all media black out and no reading newspapers. I can't handle this shit. I'll just stay oblivious for 4 years.
2000 didn't change anything. Why should it change now?
PackAPunchedMick
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When can we expect the "special prosecutor" to investigate Clinton and throw her into jail?
NimbleNavigator
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Is it safe to say that white people are responsible for this?
Reckheim
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Presidents don't become war criminals. The US has been at war for something like 80 straight years, many of the conflicts not being very justifiable.
Beerman462
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At least we get more Alec Baldwin Trump.
It's bad
And local governments are mostly republicans lol
We are in a bad situation. A lot of progress from the last 8 years is about to go down the drain.
AlexMeloche
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Please Michelle come save the US in 2020.
Oh, he won't even begin to be able to deliver on the promises he made (mostly), that's not what I meant.
Trump winning is very likely to inspire other outsiders to run, or change the way political hopefuls approach the podium.
It has also made many aware of the importance of voting. Again, Brexit happened in large because an incredible amount of people din't vote. I had a friend who was staunchly opposed to Leave, yet he sat at home on the days leading to the vote without registering with the mindset that "whatever, we're obviously going to win."
Also, if Trump truly makes a mess of his tenure perhaps people will look at the idea of a protest vote itself and realise the risk isn't worth it.
The point is that this will change how races are run and how people engage.
This feels horrible right now, but there is a chance it's exactly what was needed to get people aware.
after his inauguration? Donald Trump with his wife on stage , and him being sworn as president, just wow
Increased minority vote for Trump too. Not just white people.
It really seems like a complete rejection of liberal values in the modern internet age.
Completely. White turnout for Trump was election deciding.
The Elite
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Maybe the day after the election should be a holiday.
Andodalf
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Based on his words in his acceptance speech, I don't think so. He seemed content to sweep her under the rug.
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