Brutalitops
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Posts like these are why I came here today. It's insane.
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Donald J. Trump elected 45th President of the United States
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Gentleman Jack
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This has been happening for years now at least. Trump was a catalyst for sure but around 2008 they really came out of the woodwork.
Whether Trump or Clinton won, we knew there were institutional problems with our society as a whole. I think the people recognize major changes are needed and the Trump is the guy offering that. And to be fair to them, many of our issues from income inequality, climate change, etc can't be solved by changing the tax % by a few numbers here or there. Granted - doubt Trump will do anything that truly helps the poor. Democrats have to capture that populist sentiment as well and we simply can't just start calling white people trash.
Spiral Insanity
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The same response as many Brexit voters..
That's what other people does as well and Trump and his minions wants them deported.
Only illegal immigrants are the ones that are at risk of deportation.
I mean, they are called illegal, so they are in the country against the law. It's just that many ignore them and let them be. All Trump was proposing is enforcing existing laws.
J-Roderton
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Uh..
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Hillary likely won the popular vote. In terms of the election as a public opinion poll, it's not like the country just turned 90% against liberal/democratic values. If only a few hundred thousand people had voted the other way, Trump would have lost.
This is the problem with a divided country that is so polarized. Political power is swinging back and forth between two huge but largely equally sized groups, with each group seeing itself as representative of the "real" country. So every time it flips one side thinks they have been utterly rejected.
Unfortunately, the GOP has done a good job of locking up structural political power at both federal and state level. The danger is that this can allow 50% of the country to pretend that they are 100% That's what Trump's "take our country back" pitch was entirely predicated on.
Sato Koiji
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Im so sorry US citizens 
Massive Duck. C.M.
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This IS that "something", same with Brexit. It's only going to continue to get worse because like Brexit there is no turning back, so Trump supporters/Brexiters have to toe the line or else they'll be seen for who they really are (hypocritical bastards).
The problem with Trump is that no one truly knows what his presidency will bring, him being such a wild card and flipping his stance on everything depending on who he's talking to.
The worst case scenario is that the current generation of the GOP controls the entire government, this is a harder pill to swallow.
My only hope is that people actually pay attention to midterm elections (wishful thinking) and vote at that time and in four years we'll get fresh faces on both sides for the candidacy.
The worst case scenario is that the current generation of the GOP controls the entire government, this is a harder pill to swallow.
My only hope is that people actually pay attention to midterm elections (wishful thinking) and vote at that time and in four years we'll get fresh faces on both sides for the candidacy.
Ivanka Trump was here illegally in the past was what that post referred to.
Audioboxer
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This isn't going to happen. One thing the Democrats need to quickly look back with hindsight on is being baited by outrageous comments and hyperbole has not ended well. Don't do it next time.
I called it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1151326
And poligaf and mods said it was never going to happen.
Modbot was complacent and thought we were joking. Just locked the thread and thought we were bullshitting.
EnlightenedMint
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Time to see the stock market open.
marginal minority increases. Overwhelmingly unexpected white turnout for Trump.
Can't be a complete rejection of liberal values, Clinton won the plurality. It's losing support in the same states obama won prior, and the huge differences there are the white vote margins. So perhaps in those areas, they were energized by Trump's anti establishment campaign.
Why does anyone think this is sane. you vote someone u thought wouldnt win. Thus giving them a vote they wouldnt have got.
Like pardon me being abusive but thats being utter retarded like your treating it as a joke.
If thats ur mindset u just shouldnt vote period
RPGCrazied
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I guess I can agree with Trump on one thing. The election really was rigged. Who knew?
This is the exact opposite of what needs to be done.
Involve yourselves if you want better outcomes. Heads in the sand is enabling this shit.
Psycho_Mantis
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Cannot believe this happened.
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
its to bad, we still need electoral reform here but I do think funding and support for other parties that rally enough support is an important part of our democracy, even if it dilutes the vote somewhat.
I know many are heartbroken by this but since its decided,I hope in time some good can come of this for our fellow North Americans in the U.S.
Brutalitops
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Maybe he wanted Trump to win even though he thought he wouldn't? Why is that so strange?
Retarded really?
YuriLowell
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Okay so realistically what can he change in 4 years?
People like you make zero sense to anyone. Remain yourself Mr. E Nigma and be done with it.
SentryDown
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I wanted to make a joke about bad decisions and poor presidents but I was reminded we (french) have a president who stands at solid 4% approval rating.
RPGCrazied
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Too late man. He already won. No point.
Sorry, But you can't just wash away millions of primary voters and the caucuses. The DNC is not Dr Evil's Consortium, and inflating their role in Clinton being the parties nominee isn't going to help next time elections/primaries roll around.
Fueled System
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Somebody can support a candidate and think they will still lose you know..
Ganzlinger
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Uh.. It looks like he voted Trump because he wanted him to win, but didn't expect he would. It's not a joke vote.
Immaculate
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Lmao crazy how we let the guy who we all agreed was a joke candidate(like literally a guy people joked about electing) win
eot
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Republicans would surely have said the same thing if Hillary won. The success or failure of democracy is not a function of how well the election results align with your personal political views. Your line of thinking is extremely fragile, which is why we still have and promote democracy.
SonicMegaDrive
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I'd imagine so, as 60% of the women in the United States are white.
KeyBladerXIII
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Odds on KKK members showing up in full costume?
With Republican control of house and senate? A LOT. No hyperbole. He can fuck up a lot.
Sorry this isn't directed at you specifically but I'm sick of this rhetoric. If you're in a dire situation you're an idiot if you get fooled by someone who, by all evidence, does NOT care for you and in fact will go against your interests entirely. Trump doesn't give a single fuck about the working class poor and Brexit/the Tories don't either. It's Turkeys voting for Christmas, nothing more and nothing less.
Sorry, but giving up is enabling. You're no better than the people who voted him in if you do this.
There is /plenty/ you can involve yourself in to steer your country in the right direction.
Galactic Specter
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Seriously, I'm more surprised by anything, it really seemed like Hillary had it in the bag. Anything can happen in an election.
Napoleonthechimp
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He won't build anything (including the wall). But he'll likely pull down everything that came before him including repealing Obamacare.
Ganzlinger
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Don't worry, Marine Le Pen will make France great again.
Iriscomeback
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Wow, what a night.
Couldn't go to sleep so watched it all and was shocked at first. How could a man like this win?
After the shock passed I was less surprised. The western world in general has been moving right and this is no exception. First the Brexit, now Trump. people are ANGRY. There is a large group of voters that feel abandoned, frustrated. They feel like they don't matter, feel like their country's gone to shit, losing control.
The EU is slowly showing cracks in it's foundation, and over here in the Netherlands it's no different. Far right groups are winning everywhere and our nationalist party, the PVV, could very well be the largest coming elections next year.
It's something the ruling order just completely ignored or didn't want to see, who knows. I think we are partly to blame for the succes of these groups.
Moving forward I am very curious how this all is going to work. is the rhetoric of these people going to become business as usual? Or was it just election propaganda?
Time will tell.
It's scary, but life goes on. Stay strong and try to have a little faith in humanity, although that may seem like a tall order right now. We've been through much, much worse.
Couldn't go to sleep so watched it all and was shocked at first. How could a man like this win?
After the shock passed I was less surprised. The western world in general has been moving right and this is no exception. First the Brexit, now Trump. people are ANGRY. There is a large group of voters that feel abandoned, frustrated. They feel like they don't matter, feel like their country's gone to shit, losing control.
The EU is slowly showing cracks in it's foundation, and over here in the Netherlands it's no different. Far right groups are winning everywhere and our nationalist party, the PVV, could very well be the largest coming elections next year.
It's something the ruling order just completely ignored or didn't want to see, who knows. I think we are partly to blame for the succes of these groups.
Moving forward I am very curious how this all is going to work. is the rhetoric of these people going to become business as usual? Or was it just election propaganda?
Time will tell.
It's scary, but life goes on. Stay strong and try to have a little faith in humanity, although that may seem like a tall order right now. We've been through much, much worse.
Mr. Poolman
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USA
To DC? Never.
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