It can vary. Dragon Age: Inquisition's probably one of the most notable examples of a negative turn around a few months after launch.
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some guy leaked FFXV's story six months ago | up: newer 4chan stuff as of Dec 9th
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It can vary. Dragon Age: Inquisition's probably one of the most notable examples of a negative turn around a few months after launch.
I mean shoving important plot points in easy missed books, is not really the way to go with story telling. Same with shoving information into random NPC dialogue or the radio bites.But it is, it's just not a mandatory cutscene.
The story of Bahamut and the Oracle is in the Cosmogony book at Wiz Chocobo Post.
Her holding the ring is explicitly shown in a cutscene, walking away from Insomnia and meeting Gentiana.
The part about summons said to slumber gathering power to fight the Starscourge is in one of the paintings in the tutorial.
But of course, feel free to use it. I don't want any credit, though, it's in the game, it's not my fanfic
Credit goes to the game's writer, Saori Itamuro.
Easily my GOTY so far. Still didn't play The Last Guardian, though, I'm saving it for christmas.
Especially after the reception of XIII, where people slated it because they felt like they needed to read the datalog to understand the story, and those weren't miss-able.
The thing about FFXV though, is that they (seem) like they are going to actively try to fix the main issues with the game.
Good on square for actually knowing that there are things that need explaining and fleshing out.
Diprosalic
Banned
Yes.
DarkLordMalik
Member
The problem with XIII that despite the wealth of reading it required, did the story make any sense? I don't think it did. Then the sequels were released and they only muddied the plot further.
How do you feel about how the Souls games tell their story?
This has been a big issue with Bioware imo.
I disagree, I'm sorry. It makes the world more alive and rewarding to explore. Story and unique content are the best rewards for exploration, imo, and they nailed it with the lore, miniquests and optional dungeons.
I totally understand why it's not something people would expect out of Final Fantasy. I myself was quite surprised at this, but I enjoy that type of storytelling a lot.
Bloodborne is my favorite story this gen, by far, not even a competition. And it's much harder to understand.
I also think a lot of people just got used to knowing things about Nier, but don't quite remember how they got to know them, so if Automata keeps a similar approach to storytelling, we'll have some similar complaints too. The thing is that the character drama was also very good in Nier, imo, but I'm still expecting to read quite a few "how the hell was I supposed to know that?" when it comes to deeper discussion of Automata's story and the state of that world.
EDIT: I wouldn't be a fan if they were longer books too, I should clarify. I stopped reading Witcher 3 books very early on, but the texts here are very succint and relevant to the actual game, instead of just flavor lore on a much larger world that is irrelevant to the story.
I think it did, and I didn't read shit there either. It wasn't good, but I was able to follow it.
At least at the time, not sure how much I can remember now. And the sequel was awful, even though I think XIII is a great game.
Still didn't play Lightning Returns, but I plan to, heard great things about its combat system.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I won't lie, I don't mind playing through the trilogy again.
I have only played XIII and XIII-2 and thought they were okay, enjoyable in their own right. I didn't finish Lightning Returns but heard great thing about its combat.
Hopefully the rumor about the trilogy on PS4 is true so we get a chance to replay them with some improvements like fast forward for the battle and 60 fps. I would also love to have the option to skip a lot of the jank, by which I mean cutscenes.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I dunno, FF games used to do that all the time even in the classic older entries.
It'd be interesting to see self-contained animated work separate from their game properties. A short film compilation by each of their directors would be cool.
Some side information explaining characters backstories or motivations maybe, but I can't think of any situations where you were missing a big chunk of direct plot outside of the main story scenes in FFIV - IX.
this is the most FFXV post ever
thekiddfran
Member
It is the MGS V of Final fantasy Franchise
Lol so true
Shadow Ranger
Member
I'm not opposed to a streamlined, simplified, less scattered story. Or even different but based on, just like all their Princess movies.
vainglorious
Member
Hahaha
cartographer
Member
Something that should probably be assumed regardless of how you feel about the leak overall. This team released two demos, on top of everything else. It's often an absurd amount of work to get one demo working, much less two.
Lot of time and money goes into those, and for a game that probably didn't need the promotional help of two demos.
That's not Kingdom Hearts though, have you played DDD?
I guess i'll ask you too.
Do you like the way bloodborne or darksouls tells their story? Because, FFXV tells it story details similarly.
People seem to love the souls style of story telling.
Zoe
Member
What makes you think there's a crossover between the two fandoms?
Zoe
Member
Well I for one did not like the Souls way of storytelling at all. Gameplay was fine and was my chief reason for playing it, not the story.
The opposite is true for FF series.
The game suffers from poor narrative direction. The potential is there, the execution is not.
XANDER CAGE
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Haha what. They are absolutely nothing alike.
FFXII had such a great translation and dialogue.
Not much great anything else when it comes to story though
That video made me feel like checking out a final boss + ending video. I had to totally forgotten about Mecha-Broly Vayne. The hell is this example of complete and utter tastelessness. I wonder if he existed before Matsuno went insane.
Honestly, thinking about it, the last time I enjoyed a FF's game story might have been FF9, but in all truthfulness I remember almost nothing about it, not even if I liked it or not. Funny how you can spend 50 hours on a game and then forget all about it.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
FFXII is like the Obama of FF. You all bitched and nitpicked about it in its day, but you are you're gonna look back on it fondly and with great respect when you see what comes after...
There's a Obama shadow the hedgehog joke here....somewhere.
Apparently the same person came back to do another Q&A? http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/360166949
I didn't read the whole thread but the most interesting bits would be that the party members in XV were the same characters (plus Umbra) in the original version of the game, Uncharted 4 inspiring that Chapter 0 prologue and more details about Versus.
I didn't read the whole thread but the most interesting bits would be that the party members in XV were the same characters (plus Umbra) in the original version of the game, Uncharted 4 inspiring that Chapter 0 prologue and more details about Versus.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Link ?
Killer Queen
Banned
Makes me happy to hear that FFXV stuff is going to continue being worked on hopefully a lot
A story that is in the background and requires you to look for details in the game world, like exploration, side character dialogue, and a lot of hidden text that not everyone ends up reading.
Souls games have incredibly bare bones story when it comes to cutscenes and exposition, You need to actually dig into item descriptions and explore a lot to find out about the world.
Just like in FFXV where the cutscenes don't give you the full story and you actually have to look for details in the world for explanations to some of the finer points. For example, the radio snippets, the mythology books strewn around the world, and the newspapers/research papers that you need to explore to find.
Sorry to break it to you dude, but it's actually pretty similar to how souls games approach story telling.
I sense a bit of denial.
I loved it at the time, and I still like it today.
Yabberwocky
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Oh, wow, I'd never noticed Ashe's mouth beginning to tremble after
Rasler's illusion appears
One is the result of an intentional storytelling methodology. The other is the unintended consequences of a rushed, stitched-together game with missing scenes. You can't compare them.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Ashe's outfit is a bit silly but I love the design for her face and hair. She's so different than the usual FF heroines.
Zomba13
Member
I like how SE's decision regarding a female character in light of controversial female character handling was to just cut it out to make the female character paper thin and just in the plot to die YET they keep the needlessly sexy and skimpy car mechanic that even does the sexy carwash stuff to your car when you ask her to fill up the tank.
Like, Jesus, they really don't get it do they? And then they even teased a new Play Arts Kai of Cindy focussing on her chest! Christ...
XANDER CAGE
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The Souls games are like that by design. FFXV is not.