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Trago · Apr 4, 2017

Hero said:
Why Digital Foundry? That's kind of weird.

Because everyone goes to them for gaming tech analysis. It's really the best possible option for a reveal. It's new hardware, so they might as well get the gaming tech guys that everyone flocks to to go all in on the hardware themselves.

Really smart way of going about this I think.

SEGAvangelist · Apr 4, 2017

Hoo-doo said:
Is this an event sponsored or backed by Microsoft?

Or are DF just getting a sneak peek and the rest is up to them?

I would assume that someone like Richard Leadbetter was invited to Microsoft to put the hardware through some tests and to capture video to use in a detailed specifications and performance write-up. At least that's what I'm expecting.

blue_phazon · Apr 4, 2017

PackAPunchedMick said:
I go to digital foundry for impartial advice about which games, consoles and peripherals to purchase under the impression they ain't getting bank rolled by a manufacturer of said content.

Its sort of hard to lie about specs and what they're capable of

Rourkey · Apr 4, 2017

Bulby said:
So happy that they are going through DF for this. They must be really confident in showing what the system is.

Im really happy for the DF guys aswell. They do such great work and this is a massive get for them.

this

In Service · Apr 4, 2017

Hero said:
I guess I'm crazy since I figured we should be wondering what games they will be showing on the system rather than the technical aspects of it.

As others have suggested, E3 for games but get the technical specs out the way on Thursday?

Maybe. I don't know.

Deadly Cyclone · Apr 4, 2017

Hero said:
Why Digital Foundry? That's kind of weird.

They do all the benchmark videos. If MS believes Scorpio is indeed very powerful, why not have the guys that benchmark everything reveal how powerful it actually is?

The potential downfall is if Scorpio is not as powerful as MS thinks.

VincentMatts · Apr 4, 2017

Hero said:
I guess I'm crazy since I figured we should be wondering what games they will be showing on the system rather than the technical aspects of it.

Did everyone forget e3 is in like 2 months? I dont understand how some of you think.

Rösti · Apr 4, 2017

Hoo-doo said:
Is this an event sponsored or backed by Microsoft?

Or are DF just getting a sneak peek and the rest is up to them?

According to shinobi, it's a collaboration:

https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/849281419826409472

DeuceGamer · Apr 4, 2017

Feels like a strange way to reveal a new console. I'm excited to see what type of tech it has, but more importantly I want to see what (exclusive) games they have in the works as ultimately that will decide if I get one regardless of how powerful it is. Hopefully they are also able to show off at least a few new games.

Shil Pencer · Apr 4, 2017

I am finding it weird that people are not hyped up that DF is going to show this thing off.....i mean all everybody has been talking about is what the performance might be and now the best place for that is doing it and people are saying why them?

Venom. · Apr 4, 2017

Digital Foundry are renown for checking console performance so this associates Scorpio with power. Good move for Microsoft but does it suggest bias further down the line?

ironcreed · Apr 4, 2017

Microsoft are in a position where I think they need to come out like a blitzkrieg with this thing. Just blindside people with surprises. Hopefully that is the plan.

Filthy Casual · Apr 4, 2017

Cool! Can't wait to see Xbox reach its zenith!

chubigans · Apr 4, 2017

Hero said:
I guess I'm crazy since I figured we should be wondering what games they will be showing on the system rather than the technical aspects of it.

It had the exact same games as XB1. Literally the only reason to buy a Scorpio is the tech specs. That's the whole point.

Besides you'll see all that at E3 I'm sure.

Carn82 · Apr 4, 2017

sora87 said:
What? It's just gonna be an DF article? Not a conference?

My guess is that there is nothing to show. An official spec-breakdown sounds like the most plausible thing. They might show stuff on a similar specced PC.

flkraven · Apr 4, 2017

wesleyshark · Apr 4, 2017

Venom. said:
Digital Foundry are renown for checking console performance so this associates Scorpio with power. Good move for Microsoft but does it suggest bias further down the line?

No.

This is what Sony should have done with the Pro

Mrbob · Apr 4, 2017

I think this just goes to show how much bigger DF has become. The only other sites you would really want to do this are PC hardware sites like anandtech but they don't cover consoles.

Let's see how in depth the coverage is first before declaring teh bias!!1!

VincentMatts · Apr 4, 2017

NXGamer said:
Lol, this is of course an exclusive deal so it will be "positive" of course, but doubt beyond that.

And you can always trust me to be honest, Ms, Sony, Nintendo wouldn't pay me in buttons ;-) lol

What kind of buttons? Gold buttons?

dancrane212 · Apr 4, 2017

Remij said:
So does anyone else take that post to mean that maybe XO games will see more of a boost than people might think?

I dream of post processing AA for 360 games.

Okami Haundo · Apr 4, 2017

Deadly Cyclone said:
They do all the benchmark videos. If MS believes Scorpio is indeed very powerful, why not have the guys that benchmark everything reveal how powerful it actually is?

The potential downfall is if Scorpio is not as powerful as MS thinks.

I mean... I'm fairly confident that the Xbox team knows how powerful their machine is. I doubt they'd be going to DF if they felt they needed to put some spin on things.

RoKKeR · Apr 4, 2017

An interesting but smart choice to reveal more info IMO. Looking forward to it!

hanspampel · Apr 4, 2017

wesleyshark said:
Enhance 🕵️

this confirms the SOC is made by TMSC and not GloFo, like i suspected
Zen is now a more unlikely option for the console

Serenitynow · Apr 4, 2017

Great that Microsoft is confident about the tech under the hood, but I'm more interested in hearing about a unified vision for the Xbox brand - why do they think I should own one of their machines? Is it just for power or are their compelling exclusives to back that up? E3 will hopefully be when we get all that, but I am intrigued for Thursday nonetheless.

Xaero Gravity · Apr 4, 2017

Hero said:
Why Digital Foundry? That's kind of weird.

How so? This is most likely a specs reveal and DF is perfect for that.

Ricker · Apr 4, 2017

The Futurist said:
I'm assuming they have to be bringing some big 3rd party titles to show the difference between current versions.

Maybe Wars of Mordor...

graybot · Apr 4, 2017

Its a very interesting way to reveal it. Original and they must be extremely confident

Im not going to pretend I know anything about whats good or whats bad. I see jaguar CPU mentioned and I have no idea if people are hoping for or against this

WhiskerFrisker · Apr 4, 2017

Hero said:
I guess I'm crazy since I figured we should be wondering what games they will be showing on the system rather than the technical aspects of it.

Yes you are. Microsoft is seemingly giving information in a tiered release. If this thing will be releasing in the fall, then it's important to explain what it is truly capable of. It's a high-end Xbox; you can expect Xbox games.

Space_nut · Apr 4, 2017

Alienous said:
Phil: "So it's playing at a smooth 60fps at what resolution?"

Digital Foundry: "... 4K"

Phil: "Upscaled?"

Digital Foundry: "... native"

Phil: "You're god damn right".

Perfection

MosquitoSmasher · Apr 4, 2017

Rösti;233345786 said:
According to shinobi, it's a collaboration:

https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/849281419826409472

So that should mean folks from MS will be there too?

iMax · Apr 4, 2017

Zombie James said:
I mean, sure? Why would there be negative surprises?

Because it's being revealed by journalists, not marketers.

SEGAvangelist · Apr 4, 2017

hanspampel said:
this confirms the SOC is made by TMSC and not GloFo, like i suspected
Zen is now a more unlikely option for the console

Darn.

barit · Apr 4, 2017

So this pretty much put all rumors to end about "new generation" and "crazy power you have never seen before" if you choose a 3rd party site to reveal your new product. I mean nothing wrong with DF and their solid work but it's the same as if Apple would reveal their newest IPhone over a similar tech site. So it is indeed a Xbox Pro after all. Hope that everyone gets what he/she wanted from Project Scorpio.

witness · Apr 4, 2017

Really brilliant move by MS and a fantastic get for DF, those guys are terrific.

Zvonimir Boban · Apr 4, 2017

VincentMatts said:
What kind of buttons? Gold buttons?

Mrbob · Apr 4, 2017

graybot said:
Its a very interesting way to reveal it. Original and they must be extremely confident

Im not going to pretend I know anything about whats good or whats bad. I see jaguar CPU mentioned and I have no idea if people are hoping for or against this

Jaguar CPU = bad, pray for Zen or Intel

leeh · Apr 4, 2017

Bear Cub in Sky said:
Hey dude, don't lose the hype. We can remain hyped. Even if the hardware isn't EXACTLY what we expect, MS wouldn't be revealing the news this way if the hardware doesn't deliver 4K gaming as advertised.

Ha, don't worry. I'm hyped.

hanspampel said:
this confirms the SOC is made by TMSC and not GloFo, like i suspected
Zen is now a more unlikely option for the console

Noooooooo

chubigans · Apr 4, 2017

Ricker said:
Maybe Wars of Mordor...

That game is fugly, no thanks. Honestly even showcasing titles from last year would be a good idea, like Battlefield.

Nzyme32 · Apr 4, 2017

VincentMatts said:
This is about specs. It can either do things or it cant. Its hard to bias facts.

It is actually quite easy to do with an audience that isn't necessarily fully understanding of all the terminology. Eg I could talk about an amd and nvidia card by tflops and then claim the amd card with the bigger number is better, which isn't necesarily true when it comes to performance.

Anyway, this is incredibly minor a point

Septic360 · Apr 4, 2017

CassidyIzABeast · Apr 4, 2017

Alienous said:
Phil: "So it's playing at a smooth 60fps at what resolution?"

Digital Foundry: "... 4K"

Phil: "Upscaled?"

Digital Foundry: "... native"

Phil: "You're god damn right".

Xaero Gravity · Apr 4, 2017

ResidentDante said:
You're trying to hard. As usual towards anything Xbox related.

At first I thought he was being facetious, but now it's obviously just flamebait.

wesleyshark · Apr 4, 2017

Expecting Jaguar, hoping for Zen or some custom thing.

Theorry · Apr 4, 2017

MosquitoSmasher said:
So that should mean folks from MS will be there too?

I wouldnt be suprised one of the tech guys being there.

GreyWind · Apr 4, 2017

And Project Neon dropped today for new apps. That's MS new design language for Windows and Scorpio will use it too.

daveo42 · Apr 4, 2017

hanspampel said:
this confirms the SOC is made by TMSC and not GloFo, like i suspected
Zen is now a more unlikely option for the console

Is anyone really surprised?

ironcreed · Apr 4, 2017

Venom. said:
Digital Foundry are renown for checking console performance so this associates Scorpio with power. Good move for Microsoft but does it suggest bias further down the line?

I mean, if it's a good system then they will say good things about it. Being positive about a Microsoft product does not automatically mean that one is on the payroll or has some biased agenda. Jesus.

Harp · Apr 4, 2017

xxracerxx said:
I take that as more of a hype tweet from an MS employee.

He is a Microsoft Employee, leaking info but not getting fired? Hmm...

belvedere · Apr 4, 2017

I'm sure you can thank the Sony reveal for Microsoft's decision to invoke DF.

Sony learned it's hard to hype resolution when no one can reproduce it via low bit-rate streams.

Kaako · Apr 4, 2017

Rösti;233345786 said:
According to shinobi, it's a collaboration:

https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/849281419826409472

Interesting. Phil will most likely be there or one of the their top execs.

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