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FINAL FANTASY Type-0 Official Trial Version Thread
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Megidolaon
Member
Just about to start this demo now. Can you save a file in it? Cause after downloading the demo, I only have 97 MB left on my stick, so I wanna know if I need to delete anything before I begin.
Callibretto
Member
Cheska said:
wth at 4th mission, visibility is bad because it's foggy, mech everywhere, and all my character died in 1 hit.
Megidolaon
Member
Ok, thanks. Guess I'll delete some music or something.Skilletor said:
I'll need to save because because I'm sure I'll be constantly dying playing this in moon language.
Penguin nerd
Member
Aeana said:
For real. Felt like everything was a one hit kill in that mission. ;_;
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I didn't pay attention to that. I guess I should actually look at the text while I save! :lol I know about the costume stuff, though. It's neat that you could change abilities and check out Altocrystarium, though. Looking at it now, the demo is pretty beefy, and I wasn't expecting that at all. I figured it'd be all missions.Keiician said:
And gathering Fantoma is pretty cool. SO missions seem pretty neat as well.
With some minor fixes (camera), this game will be pretty good. Now that I've gotten the hang of the battle system somewhat and am using characters that I like, I'm not so bothered by it. But reserving final judgement for the final product, of course.
_Justinian_
Gold Member
Megidolaon said:
97 MB should be FAR more than enough space to save a game.
Alright, for being a real melee oriented type of person, Rem and Sice will be my choices.
The breakdown IMO
Rem/Sice: good flexible all around melee with good AoE attacks.
Queen/Nine: linear with lances/rapiers. Jump is pretty awesome though.
Machina: linear as well, but a bit more flexible compared to Queen/Nine.
Ace: Decent ranged, definitely a lot easier to use the Kill sight on
King: Pure hax. Amazing ranged, honestly it felt like I was playing T3B again. Think he could make this game easy mode.
The breakdown IMO
Rem/Sice: good flexible all around melee with good AoE attacks.
Queen/Nine: linear with lances/rapiers. Jump is pretty awesome though.
Machina: linear as well, but a bit more flexible compared to Queen/Nine.
Ace: Decent ranged, definitely a lot easier to use the Kill sight on
King: Pure hax. Amazing ranged, honestly it felt like I was playing T3B again. Think he could make this game easy mode.
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
This looks... promising?
I'm a battered wife ;_;
I'm a battered wife ;_;
Megidolaon
Member
Oh you're right. I got KB and MB mixed up in my head. Thanks._Justinian_ said:
Haha, thanks. that's more than enough.Keiician said:
I'm liking this game so far. I'm used to bad camera on PSP games, and so I expected this.
_Justinian_
Gold Member
kiryogi said:
Thanks for the breakdown. I'm testing out each character now and what you're saying seems pretty accurate so far...
The reason why you guys are having so much difficulty is because the demo is poorly balanced. I'm reasonably confident that it won't be this way in the final game, but in the demo, for the harder missions, you're reduced to waiting/dodging until you can get a break sight attack in. Keep in mind that this works with magic as well as physical attacks, and with the mechs in particular, thunder is great to use a break sight with.
I really didn't like how it was pretty much the only way to do decent damage in a reasonable amount of time, at least from what I found. Perhaps someone else has found a better way to do it, dunno.
Either way, once you start doing that, it all gets pretty easy. IMO, at least.
I really didn't like how it was pretty much the only way to do decent damage in a reasonable amount of time, at least from what I found. Perhaps someone else has found a better way to do it, dunno.
Either way, once you start doing that, it all gets pretty easy. IMO, at least.
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
Yeah, not sure playing this demo in Japanese is going to happen for me. I don't have that sort of patience anymore.
Older CFW folks: I'm struggling to get the ISO out of the EBOOT.PBP. Normally Prometeus (for the Mac; not sure about Windows) can extract it easily, but with this game Prometeus crashes when I try to do that, leaving behind a zero-sized ISO file.
Has anyone else managed to get this game running on pre-6.39 FW? As good as this demo looks, I'm not messing with my CFW again and possibly losing existing games just to run it.
Has anyone else managed to get this game running on pre-6.39 FW? As good as this demo looks, I'm not messing with my CFW again and possibly losing existing games just to run it.
Seven Force
Banned
Finally beat the last mission. Rem's Thunder attacks saved my hide more than once there.
That being said, I think I'm fairly confident in actually importing this now.
That being said, I think I'm fairly confident in actually importing this now.
Megidolaon
Member
It's kind of a shame how the cutscenes are kinda reduced to the PSP screen size with its low res, because they're actually very well done. I actually kinda teared up when the guy and the chocobo died. My God. That scene was hard to watch :*(
They really went all out with the war stuff, which makes the scenes very disturbing. It'll be interesting to see how the story goes, because it has the potential to be quite memorable. Like the intro to FFXII
They really went all out with the war stuff, which makes the scenes very disturbing. It'll be interesting to see how the story goes, because it has the potential to be quite memorable. Like the intro to FFXII
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I've started playing with the abilities and now I feel the need to grind for AP. I'm doomed. I need to keep in mind that it's only a demo and nothing is transferable except for the superior uniforms. Haha.
Just tried out Ace. He's pretty good too. It doesn't feel difficult to time Kill Sight with him at all.
Just tried out Ace. He's pretty good too. It doesn't feel difficult to time Kill Sight with him at all.
Full impressions time.
This demo suffers from the same problems pretty much every RPG demo does. Systems exposed with no explanation of how to use them, throwing the player in the middle of difficult missions without ensuring they have a handle on all of the mechanics. I also think that most RPG demos preset you with suboptimal ability sets, and this one isn't any different.
That said, while I was initially very disappointed with the combat, the base mechanics have grown on me a little bit. I like the phantoma system. When you kill an enemy, they leave behind colored phantoma which is affected by the methods you used to defeat them. It seems to tie in nicely with the crystarium (being spent to power up your magic), and also encourages varied spell usage while rewarding you with MP recovery at the same time. The break sight system is wonderful. Someone said it was reminiscent of fatal strikes in Vesperia, and I have to agree. the problem in this demo, though, is that they are pretty much required to use if you want to do reasonably well in the later missions. I'm really hoping that in the full version, they won't be quite as compulsory. As much as I like timed response systems (a lot), I don't like feeling like I have to use them.
The special order mission system appears to add a significant risk/reward system to the game, giving you nice buffs and other such things in exchange for agreeing to take the mission on. While going through a mission, you will get a message that says a new special order has come through. You can bring up screen that tells you what the objective is, how long you have to complete it, and what buffs/etc. you'll get if you accept it. Completing the missions gives pretty good rewards like money and items. Unfortunately, failure results in death for your character, so the risks are really high. Still, I really like this system and I expect it to be pretty fun in the full game.
The taste of the customization systems has me feeling mostly positive, although I do wish some explanation or at least more freedom would have been given to mess around with ability sets and AP. As I mentioned above, I like how the phantoma system ties in with the crystarium. It's nice that you can switch magic around on your characters, but the opportunities to do it are too few and far between for a demo version of the game, I think.
The camera is an issue, and sadly RemoteJoy isn't completely compatible with this demo. I was able to play with it for a while, but it eventually freezes during combat 100% of the time. Very disappointing. The other really big issue I have is that the action doesn't stop when you go into the menu. I suppose the reason for this is tied to the multiplayer component of the game, but since there does not appear to be any way to use items besides going into the menu and navigating through the pages, I fear they will end up feeling fairly useless, as they do in games like Infinite Undiscovery where the menu also does not pause the action.
The aesthetics of the game are wonderful, and I really actually love the setting even more than I thought. The cutscene at the end of the ice mission has some implications for how the FNC lore applies to the game, so I'm really looking forward to seeing how that works out.
Overall, I'd say that the demo has me interested in the game, albeit this time with my expectations about the gameplay grounded in reality. If past RPG demos are any indication, then this should hopefully turn out to be a great game.
This demo suffers from the same problems pretty much every RPG demo does. Systems exposed with no explanation of how to use them, throwing the player in the middle of difficult missions without ensuring they have a handle on all of the mechanics. I also think that most RPG demos preset you with suboptimal ability sets, and this one isn't any different.
That said, while I was initially very disappointed with the combat, the base mechanics have grown on me a little bit. I like the phantoma system. When you kill an enemy, they leave behind colored phantoma which is affected by the methods you used to defeat them. It seems to tie in nicely with the crystarium (being spent to power up your magic), and also encourages varied spell usage while rewarding you with MP recovery at the same time. The break sight system is wonderful. Someone said it was reminiscent of fatal strikes in Vesperia, and I have to agree. the problem in this demo, though, is that they are pretty much required to use if you want to do reasonably well in the later missions. I'm really hoping that in the full version, they won't be quite as compulsory. As much as I like timed response systems (a lot), I don't like feeling like I have to use them.
The special order mission system appears to add a significant risk/reward system to the game, giving you nice buffs and other such things in exchange for agreeing to take the mission on. While going through a mission, you will get a message that says a new special order has come through. You can bring up screen that tells you what the objective is, how long you have to complete it, and what buffs/etc. you'll get if you accept it. Completing the missions gives pretty good rewards like money and items. Unfortunately, failure results in death for your character, so the risks are really high. Still, I really like this system and I expect it to be pretty fun in the full game.
The taste of the customization systems has me feeling mostly positive, although I do wish some explanation or at least more freedom would have been given to mess around with ability sets and AP. As I mentioned above, I like how the phantoma system ties in with the crystarium. It's nice that you can switch magic around on your characters, but the opportunities to do it are too few and far between for a demo version of the game, I think.
The camera is an issue, and sadly RemoteJoy isn't completely compatible with this demo. I was able to play with it for a while, but it eventually freezes during combat 100% of the time. Very disappointing. The other really big issue I have is that the action doesn't stop when you go into the menu. I suppose the reason for this is tied to the multiplayer component of the game, but since there does not appear to be any way to use items besides going into the menu and navigating through the pages, I fear they will end up feeling fairly useless, as they do in games like Infinite Undiscovery where the menu also does not pause the action.
The aesthetics of the game are wonderful, and I really actually love the setting even more than I thought. The cutscene at the end of the ice mission has some implications for how the FNC lore applies to the game, so I'm really looking forward to seeing how that works out.
Overall, I'd say that the demo has me interested in the game, albeit this time with my expectations about the gameplay grounded in reality. If past RPG demos are any indication, then this should hopefully turn out to be a great game.
_Justinian_
Gold Member
Thanks for the very detailed impressions, Aeana.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
That's definitely how I did it. King and lots of Thunder spells.jae said:
At least there seems to be more changes incoming, especially with regards to the camera.
SourceAndriasang said:
I think I'm about done here too. I have a few more costumes to find, apparently (14 in all). My sentiments pretty much echo Aeana's, particularly with regards to the Altocrystarium, Phantoma and the abilities. I only did three of the OS missions, so I can't really make an adequate judgement for those, but I liked what I experienced for the most part. I failed my third one and that resulted in a death, though.
I don't like how it seems like Kill/Break Sight is essential to taking enemies down sometimes. This might relate to the increased enemy difficulty in the demo, though. The iffy camera has got to go, and if Tabata suggests that the camera control might be changed for the full version of the game, then that might ameliorate some of the issues I have with it currently. The situation where I'm busy running around dodging an enemy's blasts while trying to Kill Sight it in a tight spot and the camera isn't exactly being my friend isn't very pleasant at all.
That isn't to say Kill Sight is bad. I think it's pretty fun when you're taking down fodder, or when you finally take down one of those mechs. Overall... I kinda like the demo's mechanics more than I did before. I found a bunch of characters whose style I really liked to use, adjusted to their attack timing (especially for kill sight), and used them in the story missions. All the characters are kind of different (with regards to speed, power and timing) so you really do have to experiment in the tutorial mission and see which ones you like using.
The music is great. If you liked what you heard in Crisis Core, you're most likely going to like the Ishimoto stuff you're going to get here (similar instrument samples here and there too). There's one acoustic piece that I really liked that was reminiscent of a few of the pieces in CC (probably a cross between "Moonlight Wandering" and "Night of Seclusion"). Overall, I think it's shaping up to be a great soundtrack. The presentation of this game is amazing, by the way. The CG is wonderful, the voicework is great and the settings are really nice to look at most of the time.
Ice mission was my favourite as well; there was a lot going on in that one. The cutscene at the end of that one was pretty interesting.
I was surprised that SE released such a beefy demo, though (for free!). I wasn't anticipating being able to explore the ability system or Altocrystarium just yet. Definitely going to import this (and its soundtrack) when it's released. My lofty expectations going in have been tempered somewhat, however.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
The demo has me convinced I will love this. The graphics are so crisp and clean looking for a PSP game.
Just wish I could play it in English so I could know what the hell I'm doing in the menu's.
I died in the corridor just after you fight that gorilla/yeti thing. I loved that Piano music during the robot boss. So epic.
Favourite character to play as is definitely King. His camera lock is solid and it's so easy to kill the enemies before they can even hit him.
I enjoyed teleport spamming with Ace as well.
A Vita release could really fix the camera issues.
Just wish I could play it in English so I could know what the hell I'm doing in the menu's.
I died in the corridor just after you fight that gorilla/yeti thing. I loved that Piano music during the robot boss. So epic.
Favourite character to play as is definitely King. His camera lock is solid and it's so easy to kill the enemies before they can even hit him.
I enjoyed teleport spamming with Ace as well.
A Vita release could really fix the camera issues.
Nix said:
I've discussed it at length before. As always my hate isn't just to hate:
1, 2, 3
Basically, however, the DMW system was the worst anything ever, the combat was some awkward middle wasteland of straight up action and ATB that contained the strengths of neither, those optional side missions - which make up like 75% of the title - are some of the most awfully constructed little bits of repetitive gameplay ever, the story is so poorly written that I think if I heard "DO ANGELS DREAM?" one more time I would probably end up killing someone in a fit of blind passionate rage. The ending... what is the ending supposed to do? Oh, I made it up to the ending. I beat it. Am I supposed to be sad that this one dimensional puppet died? I dunno man. When the writing is so bad I just can't say I can care about anything that happens in the story, even if the story of the entire FFVII franchise wasn't laughable shit.
Anyhow, as for Final Fantasy Type-0, I hope the demo just sucks and the actual game is improved. I don't want to believe the camera is THAT bad, but then again I totally can believe it due to the team it's from. I just want a good solid Final Fantasy game with airships and chocobos and a world map, is that too much to ask?
Risk Breaker
Member
Hmmm... I'm on 6.39 (OFW - CFW PRO B8) and my PS3 won't let me copy the demo. "You must perform a PSP system software update" what is this madness? -_-
crap
crapnailed all of the costumes. Hope I can help you guys.
エースの夏服：clear mission 3
デュースの夏服：
1. in the first half of mission 1, only kill the soldier leader when the leader and the soldier appears from behind the gate.
2. After killing the leader, get they key from the surrendered soldier, unlock 1 of the trucks, get another key from the soldiers in there.
3. Unlock the other truck and defeat the boss that spawns from it.
トレイの夏服：talk with NPC アキ
ケイトの夏服：clear mission 1
シンクの夏服：
1. talk to the girl under the tree in town アクヴ a few times until the 3 other children nearby comes to the girl.
2. talk with the 3 children a few times
3. The girl will then head to the alley nearby, go and talk to her again
4. head to the entrance of the town where a soldiers spawns in, talk to the soldier and receive the letter from soldier.
5. give the letter to the girl.
サイスの夏服：finish the only side quest, who is in the hall where you start missions. You have to collect 10 red Fantoma where you can easily obtain them by killing enemies with fire based attacks.
セブンの夏服：clear mission 2
エイトの夏服：
1. In mission 3, only kill the leader mecha in the last section of the mission.
2. grab the keys from the surrendered mechs
3. open the door close by.
ナインの夏服： buy from store in town アクヴ, 980G
ジャックの夏服：give NPC in the mission hall 5000G, the NPC appears after clearing mission 1
クイーンの夏服：clear mission 4
キングの夏服：obtain from NPC appears in the beginning of mission 4
マキナの夏服：clear training battle mission
レムの夏服：In mission 2, clear the last SO, which requires you to kill 10 of the zombie like monsters. Ally kills does not count.
edit: thanks Keiician
エースの夏服：clear mission 3
デュースの夏服：
1. in the first half of mission 1, only kill the soldier leader when the leader and the soldier appears from behind the gate.
2. After killing the leader, get they key from the surrendered soldier, unlock 1 of the trucks, get another key from the soldiers in there.
3. Unlock the other truck and defeat the boss that spawns from it.
トレイの夏服：talk with NPC アキ
ケイトの夏服：clear mission 1
シンクの夏服：
1. talk to the girl under the tree in town アクヴ a few times until the 3 other children nearby comes to the girl.
2. talk with the 3 children a few times
3. The girl will then head to the alley nearby, go and talk to her again
4. head to the entrance of the town where a soldiers spawns in, talk to the soldier and receive the letter from soldier.
5. give the letter to the girl.
サイスの夏服：finish the only side quest, who is in the hall where you start missions. You have to collect 10 red Fantoma where you can easily obtain them by killing enemies with fire based attacks.
セブンの夏服：clear mission 2
エイトの夏服：
1. In mission 3, only kill the leader mecha in the last section of the mission.
2. grab the keys from the surrendered mechs
3. open the door close by.
ナインの夏服： buy from store in town アクヴ, 980G
ジャックの夏服：give NPC in the mission hall 5000G, the NPC appears after clearing mission 1
クイーンの夏服：clear mission 4
キングの夏服：obtain from NPC appears in the beginning of mission 4
マキナの夏服：clear training battle mission
レムの夏服：In mission 2, clear the last SO, which requires you to kill 10 of the zombie like monsters. Ally kills does not count.
edit: thanks Keiician