Are Microsoft and Sony not worried about customer outrage should they not have access to their digital libraries next gen? *sigh*
What does this even mean? Sony's first party games are amazing.
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VGLeaks Durango specs: x64 8-core CPU @1.6GHz, 8GB DDR3 + 32MB ESRAM, 50GB 6x BD...
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Are Microsoft and Sony not worried about customer outrage should they not have access to their digital libraries next gen? *sigh*
It will play the same but at different graphic levels. Much like the PC.
I think he meant in terms of who is slightly more powerful.
PC gamers would be fine with this, but that average console gamer would not.
Na... you used to talk about how Sony may bring out a beast in vgleaks thread. So another way to look at it is that you "now" don't give preference to anyone.
I'm wondering if there was a misunderstanding here also.
Is anyone corroborating Proelite's info wrt that?
brain_stew
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GPU is expected but a massive disappointment all the same. Games aren't the priority of this box.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Off-topic but this was posted in the Orbis Controller thread: http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publ...KC=A1&FT=D&ND=&date=20121213&DB=&locale=en_EP
Someone needs to translate it cause this looks awesomely weird.
Someone needs to translate it cause this looks awesomely weird.
It would take 132 seconds to fill the 3584 MB of RAM if the drive is 6x. If I'm calculating this correct.
But do you really need to fill it up all at once?
pr0cs
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There is in no way shape or form enough information in all the threads on GAF added up to make any sane decision on that.
I stand by the statement that if you've already chosen one system over the other based on these 'perceived' power ratings you had no interest in the other system at all.
It all comes down to the games, services and software. Until you see what both companies have to offer you're really not much of a gamer to make a 'decision' already.
Several DVRs (TiVo for example) have LAN control. So for instance I have the TiVo iPad app that lets me browse the EPG, view my recordings, edit my season passes and start a recording playing or switch the channel. No IR, just communication over the network.
That would be ideal, but not all DVRs support it, hence my tiers.
Yeah. That is true. We are not asking for the source. We are asking for info. If that is not possible there is no point to keep saying I know and not mention anything.
Clay Davis
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it is vitally important in the early part of a new generation. games for the old console are still releasing and having bc makes sure you get through some really dry patches without any trouble.
this gen is also very different in how much some people have invested in their accounts. I've spent thousands across psn and xbox live arcade, to lose them would simply be unacceptable and would destroy any faith I have in eithers online ecosystem as well as severely limit the number of games I buy from either store.
Listen boys, I have an international flight to attend to, so I am about to sign off, but please, do not ever, put words in my mouth.
I have said this over and over again. Different engines will prefer either more bandwith or more memory. If your instincts are trying to tell you I have made a judgement on which system is more powerful, than you are wrong. This is a case by case scenario, if we look at things on paper, which only tells us 1/3rd of the story.
Man up folks, it's a long time till launch.
KefkaPalazzo
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6x is more than adequate...i'm not sure if people are just looking for something to complain about or don't know much about tech.
gundamkyoukai
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I know , it's crazy how people calling your name when comes to which system stronger .
You said that each system will have a advantage in certain things and that it .
I very much doubt MS and Sony are willing to take the same initial losses they did last generation, though. I'm betting they'll each retail at $400, sold at a relatively small loss.
Well now you're just teasing
tinfoilhatman
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You do realize 360(not being an x86) was compatible with most popular Xbox games?
Can Crusher
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ThisWreckage
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I also get the feeling that a lot of these insiders are leaning toward Microsoft because Sony has been more tight-lipped and isn't keeping everyone in the loop. They're the real darkhorse in the middle of all of this. No one really has a clue what their focus is or what they're doing.
Yeah, especially when you add in the fact that devs can now take advantage of the HDD since every console will have one.
Pika pika.
It's beginning to seem more and more possible/clear
Pretty much.
Baconsammy
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Especially if they're going to once again allow us to install games to the HD.
biosnake20
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So Orbis is a bit more powerful?
according to kanye west albums
I still don't believe that, if there were a way to simply improve GPU efficiency by 50%+, we wouldn't have seen the necessary API changes to facilitate it.
Large efficiency gains in particular scenarios I can see, but across the board?
No, not putting word in your mouth but you used to speculate about we GPU capable of 2.5+TF was quite doable. At that time, people may or may not have thought you had insider information. Now, however, you have nailed down your info sources and are very diplomatic about what's what. It's not a judgement so calm down and enjoy the flight and try not to thrash about in the plane.
Until we uncover the function of these Data Move Engines we can't say that yet.
gundamkyoukai
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That was before he found out his info then he started to change how he post .
I found out the real specs, and I accepted reality. This is not a game of black and white. GAF needs to rescind this rhetoric where "X > Y or Y > X", it isn't black and white, and the paper isn't telling us why. Until an actual developer comes out and proclaims reality, you are left to your own devices.
It would take 132 seconds to fill the 3584 MB of RAM if the drive is 6x. If I'm calculating this correct.
But do you really need to fill it up all at once?
There bit more added for seek times but 2 mins is very bad in itself.
and stream off disk is really dependent on the game. Just remember all the games the ps3 had to install to the hdd.
TheGreyHulk
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whatever happened to the 2nd GPU?
remember all those rumors about there being a 2nd GPU.
there was even another rumor i saw on the semiaccurate forums mentioning that there's 2 blocks for the 720. 1 was the app block and the other was another system block that contained another cpu/gpu.
so confused now.
remember all those rumors about there being a 2nd GPU.
there was even another rumor i saw on the semiaccurate forums mentioning that there's 2 blocks for the 720. 1 was the app block and the other was another system block that contained another cpu/gpu.
so confused now.
The Elite
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What will happen if we connect Durango's HDMI OUT with Durango's HDMI IN?
Divide by 0
Baconsammy
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Yet somehow you came to the conclusion (on about 30 different occasions now) that the Durango is built to solely be a DVR and to house "bloatware".
What will happen if we connect Durango's HDMI OUT with Durango's HDMI IN?
Nothing, hermaphrodites cant have babies.
Pai Pai Master
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What will happen if we connect Durango's HDMI OUT with Durango's HDMI IN?
RROD
in your eyeballs
oversitting
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So do tell us what the Blocks do, I mean you surely know since you say they don't sound like they do much.
hdd dont stop loads. There are still plenty of long load times on the ps3 with games installed. Plus you still get those micro pauses from content loading in.
though durangos massive amount ram should knock that right out.
I doubt those will be something of a major breakthrough game changer kind of thing. But they better be something good since MS decided to put them over extra shader units.
And with it the wave of disillusionment washed over us. I liked thuway better when it was just speculation. Stuff was made of sweet dreams XD.
Oh well, guess we'll have to wait 6 more years to get what we really want "today".
Proelite
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What will happen if we connect Durango's HDMI OUT with Durango's HDMI IN?
Selfcest?
iamshadowlark
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LOL what? I explained pretty clearly why that post doesn't mean much and you who admit you don't know anything said "maybe its reasonable" or whatever. Lol, how are you gonna swear by something you have no clue about? The only one who "looks bad" is you.
Anyways,
Xbox is rumored to be a 800MHz part with 12 CUs for a theoretical peak of about 1.2TFLPS. I forget where this puts it on the consumer AMD scale but its not up with the 7970m(or 90% which the PS4 is rumored to be) . And lets not forget the "bespoke compute unit" the PS4 is supposed to have . The bandwidth and latency advantages are already apparent with GDDR5 vs DDR3.
Baconsammy
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I'll laugh, and cry, if the HDMI-in port is the backwards compatibility option. "There ya go, suckers!"