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RadioHammer500
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(04-18-2015, 08:37 PM)

Originally Posted by DecoyOctopus

I guess V has come to
Okamid3n
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(04-18-2015, 08:37 PM)

Originally Posted by Sn4ke_911

Painful supernumerary phantom arm following motor cortex stimulation for central poststroke pain

http://thejns.org/doi/pdf/10.3171/foc.1999.6.5.2

That's from a while ago though. Refer to this post :

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=326
Slowdive
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(04-18-2015, 08:38 PM)
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Here's everthing so far:

Dr Sergio Canavero is a part of the Turin Advanced Neuromodulation Group.

Kojima on Taboo:

The next project will challenge a certain type of taboo," he wrote. "If I mess up, I'll probably have to leave the industry. However, I don't want to pass by avoiding that. I turn 47 this year. It's been 24 years since I started making games. Today, I got an ally who would happily support me in that risk. Although it's just one person. For a start, it's good."



Procedure for the transplant named HEAVEN.

Person getting the transplant is a CG artist and a game development supervisor. https://www.xing.com/profile/Val_Spiridonov

Head transplant in MGS V?





:P

Sergio is doing a talk in Cyprus which is presumably where the hospital in MGS V is. It's a location in the game anyway according to PC files.

Has a scientific article named The “Gemini” spinal cord fusion protocol: Reloaded http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/?lin...m_uid=24244881

Sergio submitted this article on GEMINI just two days after MGS V was revealed. http://www.surgicalneurologyint.com/...ulast=Canavero

http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Gemini

Dr Canavero believes that impossible is only a way of the mind. By changing perspective, everything becomes attainable.
He proved so when in three months at age 27 worked out the mechanism of one of the most intractable medical mysteries ever, central pain syndrome.

http://www.tedxlimassol.com/lineup/dr-serio-canavero/

TED Limassol is an anagram for Solid Metals

Logo for the Ted Talk


Originally Posted by DecoyOctopus

The talk's partner is a gaming site who has an office in Cyprus: https://wargaming.com/en/about/our-locations/nicosia/

Transplant patient's facebook cover pic:



10-20-2009, 10:31 AM
Just as more evidence that phantom pain is linked to the brain, I recall a report about a surgery done by Dr Sergio Canavero several years ago where a woman wound up with phantom pain in a 3rd arm that never existed. All from "tweaking" something in her brain and apparently messing up something with the brain's "map" of the body. Canavero has done a lot of good work, but there's always risk when you're on the cutting edge.

http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/archive...p/t-44363.html

This is presumably the report: http://thejns.org/doi/pdf/10.3171/foc.1999.6.5.2 Titled Painful supernumerary phantom arm following motor cortex
stimulation for central poststroke pain.

Has a book: http://www.amazon.com/Head-Transplan...der_1503243222

Some of these chapter titles sound familiar.


Also what kind of doctor has photoshoots like this?

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Rebel Leader
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(04-18-2015, 08:39 PM)
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This is fucking insane
Juan29.zapata
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(04-18-2015, 08:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by ElTorro

"Dr. Sergio Canavero" is supposed to be working at the "Turin Advanced Neuromodulation Group", but neither can I find that department's website, nor any mention of it or Canavero on the website of the University of Torino.

Most interesting!
Gleethor
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(04-18-2015, 08:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rebel Leader

This is fucking insane

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Soulflarz
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(04-18-2015, 08:40 PM)
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So basically, this guy is
-Working for a non-organization
-Reported by a bunch of news sources and was on tedx (with the specific venue being an anagram for solid metals x)
-Working on many things regarding Phantom Pain
-has 11m of funding from an unknown source


And some other things. lol
oti xero
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(04-18-2015, 08:40 PM)
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Is this Frog Fractions 2?
Revven
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(04-18-2015, 08:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by DecoyOctopus

params7
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(04-18-2015, 08:41 PM)
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Just a huge coincidence. Maybe Kojima had been following this doctor because of his work. Kojima is good like that.
Rapstah
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(04-18-2015, 08:41 PM)
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If you click on "organization" on the website belonging to the Neuroscience Department of the Torino University, it's not even filled in. More importantly, they don't mention "neuromodulation" even once.

None of the results when you search for "neuromodulation" or "neuromodulazione" on the university's site have anything to do with Sergio Canavero. Maybe his "advanced group of neuromodulation" works at another university.
Alessandro
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(04-18-2015, 08:42 PM)
I love postmodernism.
Dusk Golem
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(04-18-2015, 08:42 PM)
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My actual guess, btw, is that the doctor is not just a marketing campaign for MGSV, but was probably an inspiration for the game and they asked if they could use his likeness. I think a lot of this could easily be explained as Kojima drawing inspiration from reality and a real world interesting thing rather than the real world thing being an elaborate MGS marketing ploy.
Palculator
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(04-18-2015, 08:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Rapstah

If you click on "organization" on the website belonging to the Neuroscience Department of the Torino University, it's not even filled in. More importantly, they don't mention "neuromodulation" even once.

None of the results when you search for "neuromodulation" or "neuromodulazione" on the university's site have anything to do with Sergio Canavero. Maybe his "advanced group of neuromodulation" works at another university.

Or they're a bit mady uppy.
ElTorro
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(04-18-2015, 08:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Okamid3n

I said I wouldn't come back but you guys make it hard.

Just google "Turin Advanced Neuromodulation Group" and make google show up results only from before 2010. There's tons of mention of it from as far back as 2003 it seems.

That is true.



http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic...and-management
NuKERxyz
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(04-18-2015, 08:42 PM)
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The question IS, and Konami fired Kojima, really.. He is a Genius ffs.
DevilFox
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(04-18-2015, 08:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by ElTorro

A funny side story is that, should this indeed be a ruse, so many media outlets reported on the brain transplant story without doing any basic journalistic research and fact-checking whatsoever.

Italian media do that all the time ahah But I've more faith in the rest of the world, starting with Cambridge

edit: oh come on, anticipated .-.
SteveTR
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(04-18-2015, 08:43 PM)
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This is totally something that would happen in a Kojima game.
Screaming Meat
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(04-18-2015, 08:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by DecoyOctopus



Just sayin'
NaviLink
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(04-18-2015, 08:44 PM)
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I nominate this thread for best of the year 2015.
Palculator
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(04-18-2015, 08:44 PM)

Originally Posted by Dusk Golem

My actual guess, btw, is that the doctor is not just a marketing campaign for MGSV, but was probably an inspiration for the game and they asked if they could use his likeness. I think a lot of this could easily be explained as Kojima drawing inspiration from reality and a real world interesting thing rather than the real world thing being an elaborate MGS marketing ploy.

(This 100%. But to pretend otherwise is more fun.)

*This post does not necissarily reflect the views of Palculator.
Soulflarz
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(04-18-2015, 08:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by ElTorro

That is true.

Youre saying Kojimas been preparing this that long?
/s

Originally Posted by Palculator

(This 100%. But to pretend otherwise is more fun.)

*This post does not necissarily reflect the views of Palculator.

Quit doing my thing where all my speculation is not what I believe >.>
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(04-18-2015, 08:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dusk Golem

Using control+f, the word phantom is used 36 times in that article, the word pain 33 times.

That's a difference of three... we may as well confirm Half-Life 3 in this thread as well then!
eyeball_kid
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(04-18-2015, 08:44 PM)
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Whether or not Kojima is involved, this guy is something else.

If Kojima somehow orchestrated some or all of this, it's the longest, biggest con he's ever done, not only fooling gamers, but the entire world press and media.
DarkLordMalik
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(04-18-2015, 08:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dusk Golem

My actual guess, btw, is that the doctor is not just a marketing campaign for MGSV, but was probably an inspiration for the game and they asked if they could use his likeness. I think a lot of this could easily be explained as Kojima drawing inspiration from reality and a real world interesting thing rather than the real world thing being an elaborate MGS marketing ploy.

I have the same theory. Kojima probably drew his inspiration from him.
Palculator
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(04-18-2015, 08:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Soulflarz

Youre saying Kojimas been preparing this that long?
/s

Anything that's been published since 1987 is potentially part of this. He's been in the biz for long enough to have widespread influence we're only getting the hang of now that he's leaving.
Okamid3n
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(04-18-2015, 08:47 PM)
Okay, the "based off of this guy rather than an elaborate marketing trick" theory sounds a lot more likely.

...I'm on board.
Soulflarz
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(04-18-2015, 08:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by eyeball_kid

If Kojima somehow orchestrated some or all of this, it's the longest, biggest con he's ever done, not only fooling gamers, but the entire world press and media.

This is why I have my doubts. This would ascend Kojima to a new level in marketing trolling, to a point that will pass all other marketing attempts.
Seriously. We've gone from "he used a guy to look like another guy" to "he snuck a guy into ted talks who tricked the worlds press and the science community at large."
Twentieth
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(04-18-2015, 08:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Okamid3n

Okay, the "based off of this guy rather than an elaborate marketing trick" theory sounds a lot more likely.

...I'm on board.

Yep, it looks like we've found Kojima's inspiration but that's it.
Palculator
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(04-18-2015, 08:48 PM)
Will there be a limited (1) edition where you get the head of the other guy that's donating his body instead of the arm?
AJLma
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(04-18-2015, 08:48 PM)
Kojima reaching illuminati levels of deception here.
Skid 4 Dead
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(04-18-2015, 08:50 PM)
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All bald men are one. Fictional or otherwise.
ElTorro
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(04-18-2015, 08:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by eyeball_kid

Whether or not Kojima is involved, this guy is something else.

Yeah.

cyba89
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(04-18-2015, 08:50 PM)
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#TeamInspiration
DevilFox
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(04-18-2015, 08:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Okamid3n

Okay, the "based off of this guy rather than an elaborate marketing trick" theory sounds a lot more likely.

...I'm on board.

Don't ruin the party with your logic.
Hatchtag
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(04-18-2015, 08:52 PM)

Originally Posted by ElTorro

Yeah.

is that real or CG?
vulva
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(04-18-2015, 08:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Deadly Cyclone


So this Doctor is going to do a real-life head transplant. But that's not the weirdest part...

No, a head transplant is the weirdest part. Having something video game related as a connection or similarity is fine, but lets not act like kojima having something in a game is weirder than an actual head transplant.
OnionPowder
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(04-18-2015, 08:52 PM)
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The only logical conclusion is this is all Kojimas doing. That's why Konami pushed him out. He went too far this time.
Alessandro
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(04-18-2015, 08:53 PM)
To non believers in this thread, this wouldn't be the first time someone tricked science journals/community.

We welcome everyone at the church of Kojima, just make sure to attend mess.
Okamid3n
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(04-18-2015, 08:53 PM)

Originally Posted by DevilFox

Don't ruin the party with your logic.

It's not as fun of an mgs conspiracy topic without the doubters, admit it!
Palculator
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(04-18-2015, 08:53 PM)
Would be interesting if Kojima actually just thought he was quite a character (considering his very weird views) and got inspired thinking nobody would notice, but then the guy became publicly known because of this transplant attempt.
Soulflarz
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(04-18-2015, 08:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alessandro

To non believers in this thread, this wouldn't be the first time someone tricked science journals/community.

We welcome everyone at the church of Kojima, just make sure to attend mess.

But for the sake of a video game? >.>
Sn4ke_911
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(04-18-2015, 08:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by ElTorro

Yeah.

That picture looks so weird to me, which doctor poses like that? or even makes photos like this?

Ah idk it all seems so fishy to me.
Alessandro
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(04-18-2015, 08:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Soulflarz

But for the sake of a video game? >.>

That's the beauty of postmodernism.
plake
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(04-18-2015, 08:55 PM)
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Why are you doing this to me Kojima.
BreezyLimbo
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(04-18-2015, 08:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sn4ke_911

That picture looks so weird to me, which doctor poses like that? or even makes photos like this?

Ah idk it all seems so fishy to me.

I can't even tell if the doctor in that picture is CG

he looks so fake
Slowdive
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(04-18-2015, 08:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sn4ke_911

That picture looks so weird to me, which doctor poses like that? or even makes photos like this?

Ah idk it all seems so fishy to me.

Yeah it's pretty weird.
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(04-18-2015, 08:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by BreezyLimbo

I can't even tell if the doctor in that picture is CG

he looks so fake



:P
Palculator
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(04-18-2015, 08:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Sephiroth_GR_



:P

Ironically, the FOX Engine looks better, lol.
Loakum
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(04-18-2015, 08:59 PM)
???? I'm having a LOT of trouble processing all this.

We have the doctor from the MGS TPP trailer looking completely like a real life doctor. He performs a head transplant, and we have a character in the trailer with bandages all over his head.....*mind liquidizes*

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