The Broken Ska Record
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I think this may be the first Third version that I actually pick up.
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New Pokemon Game to be announced next week?
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Every time I read a Pokemon thread on GAF, I get the weirdest sense of deja vu.
Anyway, my two cents on everything:
a) Pokemon Grey/Gray will be on 3DS
b) Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire were pretty bad. Not as awful as everyone makes them out to be (D/P were honestly worse), but they were pretty bad
c) Gold/Silver were the best games in the series. Haters gonna hate.
d) Black/White are great.
e) Black/White had Pokemon level design. The games were easy. The story and characterization was great. The music was good. The environments were diverse.
f) Also, Charizard and Gyarados>>>>All.
Anyway, my two cents on everything:
a) Pokemon Grey/Gray will be on 3DS
b) Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire were pretty bad. Not as awful as everyone makes them out to be (D/P were honestly worse), but they were pretty bad
c) Gold/Silver were the best games in the series. Haters gonna hate.
d) Black/White are great.
e) Black/White had Pokemon level design. The games were easy. The story and characterization was great. The music was good. The environments were diverse.
f) Also, Charizard and Gyarados>>>>All.
ThatObviousUser
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645, telling it like it is.
Hate to break it to you bucky boy but Gen 5 was exactly the same as far as rivals go as 3 and 4 with no-douchebag childhood friends as rivals.
What?! That was easily the best part of HG/SS! Having so many obtainable legends in one game made them feel hugely satisfying, and having so many legend Wi-Fi events in a short time actually made Wi-Fi events worth it.
You will bow before the Ice Lord when Gray cometh. Yea, you all will. Prepare thyself, for the Frozen World is at hand.
Ultimadrago
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Registeel is the only good one. Let's be honest.
Always better to work together
*standing ovation*
Encore! Encooore!
That's the problem with you crochety old men. You get too attached to circles with eyes and suddenly Unova is too busy and digimon-like. Keldeo! Keldeo's awesomeness I say! Over firechicke's... firechickenness.
ThatObviousUser
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Drifblim is one of my favourite Pokemon from 4th gen.
Also Honchkrow is another badass Pokemon from gen 4.
High five duder.
Second most powerful trainer in the series after HGSS Red, hey-oh
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Yeah, it was done pretty well, but I still have to give the edge to Cyrus on ambition alone. And I kind of got the feeling that we were cockblocked from Sage battles that are being saved for Gray.
Waging war to liberate Pokemon from their trainers... through fighting Pokemon battles... didn't make a whole lot of sense either. Not even most Galactic grunts were that dumb.
Exterminieren
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There was actually a point to the personalities of the rivals in Gen 5, though. The way that they drifted apart in methods as they went through the game was a fuckload more satisfying than "Smell ya later, loser" the whole damn time.
I particularly liked the implication that the player is to Cheren as Blue was to the player in the originals.
It was lampshaded, to be fair, and I liked the little touches like the Plasma grunt who was having a crisis of confidence because he was getting too close to his Pokemon.
And I loved how much of a total, unapologetic bastard Ghetsis was.
ThatObviousUser
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Also Barry's Plat sprite is the awesomest:
Indeed, Gen 5 rivals were handled very well, even if Bianca is unduly annoying for most of the game.
Indeed, Gen 5 rivals were handled very well, even if Bianca is unduly annoying for most of the game.
Platinum is the only way Generation 4 was playable in my eyes. Such a huge upgrade over Diamond and Pearl.
Ultimadrago
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Also Barry's Plat sprite is the awesomest:
Indeed, Gen 5 rivals were handled very well, even if Bianca is unduly annoying for most of the game.
No lie. I loved seeing that sprite go while his theme started.
Exterminieren
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Sinnoh region wins off being a bloody good region, even if the Pokemon weren't my favourites.
Also Barry's Plat sprite is the awesomest:
Indeed, Gen 5 rivals were handled very well, even if Bianca is unduly annoying for most of the game.
I really felt bad for Bianca. She was never going to be a good trainer no matter how hard she tried but she seemed to come to accept that and wanted to do something else. I liked that.
The Pokemon Company should have taken the Nintendo approach to franchising. Keep your characters and conventions consistent. There wouldn't be such a division among Pokemon fans over which games are better if each new generation after Gen 2 didn't pretend like every game before it didn't exist. The way it stands, the series has all the stagnation of a Nintendo franchise without a lot of the lasting appeal to older fans. It's not unusual at all for someone to love one particular generation and hate another despite all of the games having almost identical gameplay.
Ultimadrago
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My Luxray suffered...SUFFERED by being the only decent Electric type I could find in the whole game.
...loved 'im to death though.
Damn right! Oh the hours spent trying to find a shiny shinx
I think I ended up with Luxray in all 3 of my Pearl/Diamond/Platinum playthroughs.
Retrospectively, those games are really nothing compared to HGSS and BW, Soul Silver was just a huge nostalgia trip for me and I celebrated like a madman when I beat Lance - just like I did when I was 9 years old. I'd really like to see Ruby/Sapphire remakes, I loved that game to death but I stupidly overwrote my save on a whim and now my beloved Kyogre and Sceptile live on only inside my Pokemon Colosseum memory card.
In truth, a remastered compilation of all the generations so far would be the ultimate game in my books, never gonna happen money grubbing and all that, but a man can dream.
Only if they de-uglify him.
Also, can't believe I missed Lapras and Articuno in my original post. Any of those beat the current Kyurem.
Dragoon En Regalia
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Nope. They added a lot of variety to R/S/E and provided some contrast to the terrestrial confines of Kanto and Johto. And diving allowed for a lot of cool stuff to do in the other diagonal half of Hoenn.
R/S/E, unfortunately, had the worst "rivals" of all, and the game couldn't decide between Brendan/May and Wally at all. At least Brendan/May got two amazing theme songs! Right?
Ultimadrago
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THE battle in HeartGold is my favorite Pokemon battle of all time. True story.
Exterminieren
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I think the first Pokemon I came across in my Platinum game was a shiny Shinx :3
ThatObviousUser
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Crazy junior ahoy!
The Pokemon and conventions are consistent.
No there still would be, the same way Mario fans argue over SMB3 vs SMW or SMG/2 vs NSMBW.
I guess all of us in this thread are completely new to the series!
Let's be clear, I'm sure all of us love all of these games. But that doesn't mean some games did things we didn't like, or some games did things we loved. That's how you know a series is good: there's no consensus on which is by far the best.
Although a remarkable amount of people do seem to think B/W are the best, but in Pokemon, the latest games are usually the best mechanically. But that's different from saying it's the best overall, there are other things to consider, like how much it changed things in the series for better or worse.
The Pokemon and conventions are consistent.
No there still would be, the same way Mario fans argue over SMB3 vs SMW or SMG/2 vs NSMBW.
I guess all of us in this thread are completely new to the series!
Let's be clear, I'm sure all of us love all of these games. But that doesn't mean some games did things we didn't like, or some games did things we loved. That's how you know a series is good: there's no consensus on which is by far the best.
Although a remarkable amount of people do seem to think B/W are the best, but in Pokemon, the latest games are usually the best mechanically. But that's different from saying it's the best overall, there are other things to consider, like how much it changed things in the series for better or worse.
I know.
But at least everything else in the game was good. Everything else in gen 3 and 4 absolutely SUCKED
ThatObviousUser
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Don't you like Sonic 06 more than Colors? Go back to enjoying bad games.
Whoa there. Gen 3 was a step back, and Gen 4 was redundant but they were still highly enjoyable games.
That's the one good thing about Pokemon. It's a bloody consistent series.
ThatObviousUser
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I think that was already posted?
Games-wise, I think my favorite gym leader might be Blue, Morty, Jasmine or Volkner.
Dr.Palutena
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Best gym leader is that one chick. You know the one. The one that fucked you up.
ThatObviousUser
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Not a gym leader but he is such a bro
Him and Volks are the best bromance in the history of gaming.
Whitney?
Ultimadrago
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Posted here? I must've missed it.
Surge, Big G, Maylene and Iris.
Must be somewhere between these four
ThatObviousUser
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Dr.Palutena
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bad gym leaders who aren't weak as shit and use shitty monkeys.
Ultimadrago
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You can play through a whole game and know next to none of the Pokemon in previous versions, not to mention you wouldn't know anything about the locations or characters. That's not the typical Nintendo approach and I think it's helped foster a division.
It's not crazy. Final Fantasy has the same problem. They had to come up with Kingdom Hearts to preserve everyone's favorite FF characters.
ThatObviousUser
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I don't think this is a problem. The games continue to sell massive amounts to both old and new fans.
Would it be nice? Sure, in fact it's why I put Gold/Silver on a pedestal. But is it necessary, or even preferred? No. Having a new gen introduce its own region and cast of characters is what makes each game feel fresh, despite being mechanically very similar to old games.
You find them fresh? I don't find them fresh. I find them uninspired seeing as how the new regions reinvent all the characters and Pokemon just to serve the same purposes they did in the previous games, but that might not be such a conventional opinion.
Didn't know Minato moonlighted as a gym leader...I think that was already posted?
ThatObviousUser
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It definitely makes them feel fresh. And obviously, I'm not alone. Each Pokemon game has its own feel and flavor.
I was thinking, when he said "watch Pokemon Smash" he didn't necessarily mean this Sunday's one.
StreetsAhead
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Maybe not this coming Sunday. Smash is filmed several weeks in advance, Masuda could have been confused. Or, it could be a complete surprise.
Regardless, there will be an announcement by mid-April of a Game Freak game, going by history.
EDIT: I added into the OP this morning that the Smash preview mentioned no game news or Masuda visit, btw.
He said 'watch it next week' specifically.
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