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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
- Thread starter shinobi602
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StoppedInTracks
Member
Wow they're schooling dark10x...
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
I don't get it... apparently DF has special equipment that captures lossless video. Which they then upload to I-cant-see-shit-Youtube. Isn't that weird?
Word of mouth, Reviews, DF, etc. will mention the differences until the general opinion is forged: Multiplats will look inferior on Xbone. Nothing stops the train.
SwiftDeath
Member
Does DF specify what capture equipment they use? Like specific models etc.
Sharpness people can just add in their own TV sets. It's better for the original source to not be pre-sharpned. We should have the choice to whether we want more aliasing, edge halo'ing, shimmering etc. I actually run my set at the lowest sharpness setting, which all professional calibrators would advise. Anything else is an artificial take on the image.
HawksWinStanley
Member
The guy I quoted said they screwed up the PS4/PC version as well which made the textures blurrier. So they're actually going to look that muddy and shitty in the final game?
StoppedInTracks
Member
That is a problem of the game (BF4) itself. It looks like BF3 on steroids.
Sony, IMO, shouldn't be spending 1 dolar advertising this game. Focus on Killzone instead and reap the "Best Graphics" Awards next year.
Chû Totoro
Member
Wii U fans : I don't care I have games to play now !
Metalmurphy
Member
Do we have any MP framerate analysis available?
Those of us happy with the results are comparing to our current consoles, not to PC. With the PS4 version I'm getting double the framerate, higher resolution, more effects, and 40 more players than I'm used to from BF3 and the Bad Company games.
NoirVisage
Banned
I actually dont blame you. Because resolution difference is really to be seen on your home big tv's for obvious differences.
Maninthemirror
Banned
Dark10x , leadbetter threw you under the bus, spill the beans
phosphor112
Banned
If they insist they have the settings right, then the Xbox is currently incapable of displaying full RGB.
TheRealTalker
Banned
they left the poor guy to fend for himself
Backfoggen
Banned
Lmao.
Marc
Member
Wow, trying to catch up on this thread is almost impossible. When you put it like that it is certainly a big gap, I wonder if the rumoured OS issues for Xbone is dragging its performance down as it shouldn't be that huge of a difference right? In real terms however, I would prefer better effects and such over extra FPS and pixels. Or both, yeah actually, I will have both please.
Anyway...
Haha, this is awesome. Is it new?
Fresh out of the GIF/GAF oven.
I may not be following this properly but as I understand it they apologised after it became obvious every other site captured footage showing the PS4 as superior (which DF's written text concludes). Now Leadbetter is on the case (would he be the one that set it up for Tom per chance?) and saying its not their fault and that everyone else used shoddy equipment. And throwing his colleague under the bus. Yet, why would the inferior equipment make the Xbox One look worse and PS4 better compared to DF? Thoroughly confusing, but reputation wise, if Richard is involved I will lean to the side of 'suspicious' as his credibility is below zero for me personally.
Lets put it this way, if the Xbox One hardware output is not the full range, why would that make for superior screenshots and the like? And why 'fix' it if its the case?
iceatcs
Junior Member
Seem so, that why Xbox one only one have crush black.
Mass Effect
Member
This makes no sense.
1) 900p compared to 720p isn't nitpicking unless you're playing on a small television. It's noticeable even from the footage we've seen (Digital Foundry's botched captures being the exception) and that's compressed and viewed on my 15 inch laptop.
2) While X1 will undoubtedly improve, the PS4 has a distinct compute advantage it has yet to exploit. It could conceivably maintain or even widen the gap once it does.
However, none of this really means a damn thing if X1 has the games you prefer. That's why I've had my PS4 pre-ordered and paid for since June. While its launch lineup isn't the best I've ever seen, I do love Killzone and that is enough to keep me happy until ND, SSM, RaD, Sucker Punch, Polyphony and others release their PS4 efforts.
This a hundred times. Artifically enhancing the picture will always result in worse image quality. Whats not there cant be produced with sharpening. This reminds so much of movie discussion with movies using DNR... Its pretty obvious to go for the most unaltred look.
NTIETS13A_Superiority
Banned
DF has so good capture equipment that it blurs PS4 footage.. Holy hell LeadButter. You are such a disingenious bastad.
Maninthemirror
Banned
Does the leadbetter article warrant a new topic ?
CambriaRising
Member
Now you are just spreading misinformation.
plagiarize
Banned
It sounds that way. I don't think they'd make such a claim if it wasn't true, currently.
Portugeezer
Member
Yes, from Digital Foundry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT1-mXZBDMM
Regularly dips to 50fps - 40fps
Because they're not a fit source for reading comparison faceoffs between platforms. Seriously, if no one thought something was wrong with the captured video (particularly if they were seeing non-captured real-time footage at some point in comparison), then they're not worth bothering to read anymore for such information.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
I guess ps3 owners who claimed the difference wasn't that big in 95% of the games were right all along.
Zombie James
Banned
So every comparison is going to be like this until MS fixes it?
I'm following DF since before he was a part of Eurogamer, he is using custom made hardware and codec for lossless capture. He is not using any commercially available capture cards/devices.
edit: you can find more info on his old site http://www.digitalfoundry.org/
MORTALIS
Member
Same thing for me. Hmm.
Wow, trying to catch up on this thread is almost impossible. When you put it like that it is certainly a big gap, I wonder if the rumoured OS issues for Xbone is dragging its performance down as it shouldn't be that huge of a difference right? In real terms however, I would prefer better effects and such over extra FPS and pixels. Or both, yeah actually, I will have both please.
Anyway...
Lol, this is amazing. Always loved that scene in Tropic Thunder.
You do know that the 720p image on Xbone will be scaled up to 1080p, right?
He's trying to spin 720p into a positive. He's very wrong.
SwiftDeath
Member
I almost think it does. It's interesting to see Leadbetter take the accusations serious enough to make a new article about it
That's interesting then. Not sure what to make of it
plagiarize
Banned
not really. it's just something that in the future will be adjusted for, as they do with Wii U in comparisons (which I believe only outputs in limited RGB, and which DF adjust for accordingly). presuming this IS broken, anyways.
Begaria
Member
This thread just sucked up two hours of my life. It was extremely enlightening and entertaining. Time to do it all again at that certain Russian's blog, which will be even more entertaining!
My two cents: BF4 is not an indicator of next gen in its entirety. We all know this. It's a game that was built to be on five different systems and it shows. When last gen dies, this upcoming gen can truly live. Ok, that sounds stupid, but it was totally awesome in my head.
My two cents: BF4 is not an indicator of next gen in its entirety. We all know this. It's a game that was built to be on five different systems and it shows. When last gen dies, this upcoming gen can truly live. Ok, that sounds stupid, but it was totally awesome in my head.
They're all scaled up to 1080p when displayed on your 1080p TV, so you're wrong.
SniperHunter
Banned
How can the xbone version look better?
No ao- this will be fixed later
No motion blur
No aa
720p
......??????
No ao- this will be fixed later
No motion blur
No aa
720p
......??????
50% less pixel rate, horrible aliasing issues, framerate drops weren't visible for you?