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Momodora V teaser trailer
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Crab Milk Mickey
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Excited for the gameplay possibilities the jump to 3D could bring, but it's looking far too crude right now visually. Should've waited on releasing a teaser.
More_Badass
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Whoa, that's quite a departure from 4
Darkroronoa
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Why 3D? 
Hopefully it will look much better than this teaser when it finished.
Hopefully it will look much better than this teaser when it finished.
xmajinjoshx
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I love 3rd person action games when they are done right. However I'm not sure how I feel about the transition from 2D Metroidvania to this. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt though.
CopperPuppy
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I'm as bummed about the departure from 2D as anyone else, but IV is so good that I have faith and will line up on day one.
Reminds me of Alice.
To be fair, the creator seems to be interested in tackling challenges. Momodara IV is pretty much a peak refinement, after 4 total, relatively similar games. I think they really wanted to take a whack at 3D. Hopefully they plan for at least a late 2018 release. Because it does clearly need a lot more time.
I'm fine with simplified visuals. But that gameplay has a lot to live up to. And circle strafing is not gonna be enough. Honestly 3D Momodara should probably take some hints from DMC 3 for combat. And Alice isn't a bad inspiration for levels.
To be fair, the creator seems to be interested in tackling challenges. Momodara IV is pretty much a peak refinement, after 4 total, relatively similar games. I think they really wanted to take a whack at 3D. Hopefully they plan for at least a late 2018 release. Because it does clearly need a lot more time.
I'm fine with simplified visuals. But that gameplay has a lot to live up to. And circle strafing is not gonna be enough. Honestly 3D Momodara should probably take some hints from DMC 3 for combat. And Alice isn't a bad inspiration for levels.
Bloodporne
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I get that it's early but I don't know about that. Nothing about it looks like an interesting or appealing shift from the 2D iterations at all to me.
The video reminds me of Castlevania's miserable forays into 3D with beautiful 2D backgrounds being replaced by generic boxy rooms with ugly/boring textures.
The video reminds me of Castlevania's miserable forays into 3D with beautiful 2D backgrounds being replaced by generic boxy rooms with ugly/boring textures.
Conrad Link
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Ooooh that's not what I was expecting when I clicked on the vid!
Still, I'm sure the art will be pretty, but yea, came for the 2D goodness. :'(
Still, I'm sure the art will be pretty, but yea, came for the 2D goodness. :'(
Spring-Loaded
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Can't watch this right now, but I do wonder whether a direct translation IV's movement to 3D would be like a Souls game, or more like a DMC/Bayonetta.
Prepare to Kawaii
The_Darkest_Red
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Super bummed at 3D... they really had something to build on with 4.
that's an odd thing to say. the models are made that way to have that final look. it's not like they made "bad" models and decided to cover them up with shaders - it's all part of the look.
It's early so I'll keep an open mind, but this reminds me of when KoF14 went 3D.
Both KoF and Momodora are great series with great gameplay, but honestly a big draw for me is the really amazing animation and sprite work. Moving from some of the best animation in 2D, to anything less, even if it's still good, is going to be a disappointment. And Momodora is made by like, 4 guys? So even with years more in the oven there's no way their 3D animation or assets can even touch the previous two games. I'm sure it'll still be a fun game, but there's no way I can have the same excitement I had for Momodora 4.
Both KoF and Momodora are great series with great gameplay, but honestly a big draw for me is the really amazing animation and sprite work. Moving from some of the best animation in 2D, to anything less, even if it's still good, is going to be a disappointment. And Momodora is made by like, 4 guys? So even with years more in the oven there's no way their 3D animation or assets can even touch the previous two games. I'm sure it'll still be a fun game, but there's no way I can have the same excitement I had for Momodora 4.
I think it looks fine, and obviously very early. Animation and art will no doubt improve. It's also no surprise that it's 3D as rdein has been talking about it for months already on Twitter.
That said...
https://twitter.com/r_rdein/status/855783362161774592
That said...
https://twitter.com/r_rdein/status/855783362161774592
Lord of Ostia
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I'm sure they are getting a lot of nasty, unwarranted comments, but they had to expect some sort of backlash from switching from 2D to 3D. Maybe they shouldn't have released this early of a trailer. The big contrast between this trailer and the 2D titles is the quality of the animation. The 2D Momodora games havery great animation work, whereas the animations in this trailer are not very good.I think it looks fine, and obviously very early. Animation and art will no doubt improve. It's also no surprise that it's 3D as rdein has been talking about it for months already on Twitter.
That said...
https://twitter.com/r_rdein/status/855783362161774592
I think it looks fine, and obviously very early. Animation and art will no doubt improve. It's also no surprise that it's 3D as rdein has been talking about it for months already on Twitter.
That said...
https://twitter.com/r_rdein/status/855783362161774592
the reaction of the so-called "fans" and the drive-bys is all very depressing.
tbh I wish I hadn't posted this at all. I am very excited about it. rdein makes games I enjoy.
The footage was too early to show, but at the same time, people ought to be a bit less critical and take it for what it is: a video teasing what they've been working on. I feel like if this had been a first devlog feature on TIGSource, the reaction would've been a lot less negative.
Welp, rdein's twitter account is unavailable. I can imagine the level of bile being flung their way by drive-by shitposters and angry pixel art fetishists.
Still, presenting this as a teaser instead of some sort of dev blog preview might have been unwise. Most people are resistant to change and know very little about the actual game development process.
Still, presenting this as a teaser instead of some sort of dev blog preview might have been unwise. Most people are resistant to change and know very little about the actual game development process.
Ugh.
Coreda
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Consider though that this thread is titled 'teaser trailer', the video is edited like a trailer, and the description of the video doesn't make mention that it's early footage (though it's kind of obvious). I mean, it's not like it was released by making these points clear.
I think they just misjudged the reception and potential shock some may feel coming from their earlier games. Doesn't excuse anyone who goes overboard on Twitter but that platform encourages shitty communication tbh. TIGSource for sure is the better community for such early game dev showcases.
How About No
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I think it looks fine, and obviously very early. Animation and art will no doubt improve. It's also no surprise that it's 3D as rdein has been talking about it for months already on Twitter.
That said...
https://twitter.com/r_rdein/status/855783362161774592
Ugh, people can be trash.
Since they deleted their account, is there any other way to reach out to them? I'd like to help send out good vibe their way
GwyndolinCinder
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If it makes you feel better, you brought the game to my attention ^_^ and now im currently enjoying playing IV.
From what I can tell the person he quoted didn't really do anything, just wishing him luck as it currently looks very stiff/basic and thus needing work. That said, I hope Rdein manages to recover, I vaguely remember something similar from before.I think it looks fine, and obviously very early. Animation and art will no doubt improve. It's also no surprise that it's 3D as rdein has been talking about it for months already on Twitter.
That said...
https://twitter.com/r_rdein/status/855783362161774592
LukasTaves
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This is giving me Castlevania 64 vibes XD
But I have in faith in them, if not to make a good 3d game at least to realize that and go back to 2d XD
But I have in faith in them, if not to make a good 3d game at least to realize that and go back to 2d XD
Mechanized
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It looks nice but the animation is really stiff.
How About No
Member
Rewatching the teaser I think yeah it could have used a huge "THIS GAME IS IN VERY EARLY DEVELOPMENT AND IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FINAL PRODUCT" at the beginning to alleviate some of the bitching
Bloodporne
Member
As always, complete communication breakdown between a fanbase and creator. Fan base can't put itself in the creator's shoes and vice versa.
That doesn't warrant top shelf insult-hurling antics at all so fucking major shame on the fan base once again, stop and think before letting those nerdy fingers loose. My assumption is that it immediately got personal and vicious to level 11 on some platform even if not viewable on Twitter, it always does.
On the flipside, how can the creator expect the average fan to know all the ins and outs of development and just assume the game is incredibly early and will be awesome when the video looks really rough? I was into games for over two decades before joining NeoGAF and have only since learned even the most rudimentary terms and vague ideas of how games are made.
That being said, "making games was a mistake" etc. posts...step away from Twitter and calm down first.
That doesn't warrant top shelf insult-hurling antics at all so fucking major shame on the fan base once again, stop and think before letting those nerdy fingers loose. My assumption is that it immediately got personal and vicious to level 11 on some platform even if not viewable on Twitter, it always does.
On the flipside, how can the creator expect the average fan to know all the ins and outs of development and just assume the game is incredibly early and will be awesome when the video looks really rough? I was into games for over two decades before joining NeoGAF and have only since learned even the most rudimentary terms and vague ideas of how games are made.
That being said, "making games was a mistake" etc. posts...step away from Twitter and calm down first.
I'm tentatively excited. Art direction looks pretty nice. I enjoyed the atmosphere of the games previously.
Not much else to say other than the obvious early development stuff.
Wish the developer all the best. I'll definitely keep tabs on this.
Nothing says he can't work on 2D again later, sometimes you just want to try something different and that is ok.
Not much else to say other than the obvious early development stuff.
Wish the developer all the best. I'll definitely keep tabs on this.
Nothing says he can't work on 2D again later, sometimes you just want to try something different and that is ok.
I had the same thoughts. It feels a lot like a PSone game (obviously better looking) so it has a certain charm if you forget about the series' 2D history.
Nose Master
Member
Showing a game this early is silly. Even if you understand it's miles from the target, it still gives a shit first impression. Keep it under your hat until it's close to the final vision.
Coreda
Member
That screencap gives quite a different impression without this knowledge. Guess they just didn't want to be reminded the animations are rough. If that's the thing bothering him taking a break from Twitter is good move. There are those that just need that isolated environment to creatively thrive while tinkering at such early stages.
Mine too!
I certainly didn't expect the sequel to be 3D, but I'm pretty sure it will be interesting. The art style in the trailer grew on my while watching, even in its early incarnation.
ieptbarakat
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Hope the 2d to 3d transition works out for them and they give it the extra level of polish it needs to survive the scrutiny it will and has already received.
BasilZero
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1 and 2 is free on the dev's site (at least I think it was their site, looks a bit weird?)
From a forum post the dev says he wont port the two games to Steam cause it would be more difficult or something.
3 is $1.99 regular price on Steam
4 is the more recent one.
So if anyone is wondering
From a forum post the dev says he wont port the two games to Steam cause it would be more difficult or something.
3 is $1.99 regular price on Steam
4 is the more recent one.
So if anyone is wondering
How About No
Member
1 and 2 is free on the dev's site (at least I think it was their site, looks a bit weird?)
From a forum post the dev says he wont port the two games to Steam cause it would be more difficult or something.
3 is $1.99 regular price on Steam
4 is the more recent one.
So if anyone is wondering
ooOOoo thank you for the heads up sir!
Mr Fahrenheit
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Uh, I guess it's admirable to make the jump to 3D, but the visual style and design was kind of a big part of what drew me in to Momodora and while this doesn't look bad, it's just not as interesting to me. Obviously it's very early, but I feel like you wouldn't release a trailer unless you were within range of your target style/visuals.
Gameplay is kinda hard to judge but it looks rough atm, there are a lot more variables that can sink 3D gameplay so I hope they work it all out. Same thing though, I get it's early, but why release footage of combat unless it's in the ballpark of what you want it to look like?
Idk, I feel bad being down on it when they're already getting heat over it... but keep it in the oven if it's really years from release, because showing stuff this early never ends well.
Gameplay is kinda hard to judge but it looks rough atm, there are a lot more variables that can sink 3D gameplay so I hope they work it all out. Same thing though, I get it's early, but why release footage of combat unless it's in the ballpark of what you want it to look like?
Idk, I feel bad being down on it when they're already getting heat over it... but keep it in the oven if it's really years from release, because showing stuff this early never ends well.
freeofgreed
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Lol this is actually the same thing I thought. the transition of this franchise from 2d to 3d reminds me a lot of what Castlevania went through.