Comrade Crunch
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The chaos system is gone in this one.
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Dishonored: Death of The Outsider |OT| The Other Side of The Coin
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The chaos system is gone in this one.
Turin Turambar
Member
What bad ending? You defeat the evil gal, recover the throne and save your father. The end.
That's the end I had in my high chaos game.
Well that's awesome. Thanks for the answer!
Chance Hale
Member
There is no chaos system this time around
Have never really gotten that complaint tho, you could always kill a few people and only headed towards the darker path if you were killing dozens of people per level which makes sense in a game you can finish without ever touching anyone and depends on reactivity to your actions. Emily has that power where you tip people in half with tentacles, that's unnecessary!
badcrumble
Member
The endings in Dishonored games reeeeeally aren't that interesting. What I like about the Chaos system is the way it affects the enemy population of levels as you get deeper into the game. I never play nonlethal or all-lethal because the game is way more fun when you mix up your tactics a lot, but I do like that the game has a form of dynamic difficulty in the sense that high chaos play results in more and more enemies in your way.
Part of the reason I'll be renting this. Looking forward to impressions though.
Equanimity
Member
Dishonored 2 came out last year, 2016
Maybe they meant following after Prey.
RadioactiveLobster
Member
Really looking forward to this.
Any word on the length?
Haha, typo. Just goes to show how often I think about how good Dishonored 2 is.
Haha, typo. Just goes to show how often I think about how good Dishonored 2 is.
ReplacementPelican
Member
Mine arrived today! Can't wait to play it.
Equanimity
Member
That wouldn't make much sense.
Haha, typo. Just goes to show how often I think about how good Dishonored 2 is.
Yeah, lol. 2 years in a row for you?
PeskyToaster
Member
Bethesda likes to hamstring their GotY-tier releases by not letting reviewers build free excitement and advertising for their really good games that they have no confidence in. It only works in the publisher's favor if the game is bad but if the game is good like Doom, both Dishonoreds, Prey. and Wolfenstein have been then it only helps everyone for not much cost.
The chaos system works really well thematically as a way to resolve ludonarrative dissonance. Think about it this way. Things would get undoubtedly shittier if your empress clawed her way back to the throne on the corpses of her former and future subjects as well as with the public use of powers granted by a forbidden dark god. Same way in the first game if a rebel group publicly assassinated several leading members of society to plant a child on the throne using a skull-masked assassin wielding dark powers granted by the god of a taboo at best religion. I don't see the endings in good or bad terms. They are just the logical conclusions of your actions and it's fun to see how it plays out. Bad is just as good as good!
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Oh man I forgot this was coming out so soon. Pre-ordered on Steam already, psyched to dive in later this week.
Bronetta
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You guys said it. My backlogs pretty deep but I have to support this day 1. Arkane may not put out mega blockbusters but what they do put out speaks to me, the freedom in approaching the genius level design speaks to me.
You know what, screw the backlog, I'll pick this up along with Metroid tomorrow. Arkane is day 1 tier. I still feel bad about buying Prey used so Ill make up for it here.
I totally get that. And i totally get why people like the system. But i hate it because it makes me feel like i have to choose between 'fun gameplay' and 'a satisfying story with a good ending'. And in a situation like that i always go with the latter because for me story>gameplay most of the times. And that made me quit the game quite early on, got loads of other games to play.
But like i said, i totally get why people like that system and i'm happy people have a game for that.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
So why not play it two ways? My first run through of Dishonored games is usually full-bore lethal, because I find that playstyle more fun. I will murder anything that moves and get the high chaos "bad" ending. Then I'll replay the game non-lethally, at which point I know the level layouts and where the objectives are, making a non-lethal run pretty easy. This way I get both the fun gameplay and the good ending.
Then I just do a bunch of replays to get achievements and various challenges.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I don't "put up" with Dishonored, I love it!
If we say Dishonored is a stealth game, where does Prey fall...?
Sweet. Really loved Bioshock, so that may push me over the edge.
Pandora012
Member
I mean you can go on a murder spree, just make sure you aren't killing innocent people. That's what the heart is for.
That may have been true with the first, but with Dishonored 2 non-lethal route basically has an alternate version of everything that lethal has and is really fun to play. Not only that, but low chaos is incredibly lenient - I think I killed something like 40 people in my D2 run and was still low chaos the entire time.
Like Dishonored, you can choose to play offensive/stealth/etc. Mostly at your own choosing and mostly viable IIRC.
As for Bioshock... even though it's more archaic mechanically in a lot of ways, I thought it was more memorable than Prey by far. The areas and enemies in Prey tend to bleed together even more so. Didn't care for the story or characters or setting really, although there is a "real life people" quality to the notes and logs scattered about. Which mean nothing to me personally. But an okay play overall.
Yes I'm aware I used "more" too much.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Thanks for the write up.
CrichtonKicks
Member
Are you just basing this "good"/"bad" thing off of what people say? Because that isn't the way the game presents it. The endings are high and low chaos. There is no "bad" ending in either game.
Further, in DH2, they introduced a mechanic where you can use the heart to determine someone's disposition. If they are evil then killing them results in a very minimal increase in Chaos.
Steam.... plz.... let us rename games:
This R and TM mania is too much.
Too much!
Using SteamEdit helps take care of that.
http://steamedit.tg-software.com/
You can either edit the name directly, or edit the Sort-By name.
It'll save your edits in the SteamEdit directory, because you'll need to re-apply them every so often.
It's always been THE most ridiculous complaint levelled at Dishonored, bar none. First of all, the threshold is very high. You can kill quite a few people before you trip into high chaos territory.
Second, it doesn't change things that much. A few more enemies, rats, flies, and general bloodshed.
Lastly, why not play more with the tools? Simply killing everyone is boring and easy. Play around - it's where these games shine.
Thanks for the quick reply. As long as they're close to the quality of 2's level design, I'm very happy with that number.
First and last will probably be very plot focused. So three proper missions, probably.
I'm bummed out that Meagan/Billie canon isn't from the timeline where you save Stilton in Crack in the Slab.
Edit:....waaaaait fucking minute. I think it pulls from your Dishonored 2 save...
HueyFreeman
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Tali'Zorah
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got my self a copy arriving tomorrow to play this weekend, Dishonored 2 was one of my favourite games of last year so as long as this is essentially just more of the same I'm pretty sure I'm gonna love this
HellforLeather
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NullPointer
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I thought it was The Dreadful Wail - but I thought wrong.
I forgot my /s
Honestly, I thought the high chaos ending was the better, as in more interesting, for the first game. It also promoted multiple play throughs.
More in line with System Shock 2 or Bioshock. You might get sneaky or cause distractions in specific rooms, but it's not ghostable. It also feels closer to an RPG than Dishonored. It has an inventory system and a variety of upgrade stats for weapons. Dishonored might give your arc mines one more target to chain to for example, but it's slightly more fiddly in Prey. Guns might be a little more mushy till you pop a few upgrades into them.
HellforLeather
Member
Yeah Im not trying to pour water on the theory here, I honestly dont remember.
EDIT: according to the wiki it is "Wale"
It was all but gone in DH2 and gone entirely in this one.
FYI in Dishonored 2 it was possible to play highly aggressive (fights, constantly alerted, etc) but actually not kill anyone. They added the ability to KO from killshots and KO thrown or stunned enemies. You could actually constantly get spotted and all beat everyone in combat without any kills.
Prey is my GOTG so far. It clicked so strongly with me. Dishonored 2 is third on my list.
Obviously, I'm buying this game.
So is this like... secretly reading my Dishonored 2 file?
I've just begun and Billie has
and there's a photo
. Those were things I accomplished in my last D2 playthrough.... Also, there are references to the events of D2 happening because of Emily, not Corvo. I played as Emily for that run.
Maybe it will be explained in time, but I'm.... intrigued.
It's Wale, guys.
I've just begun and Billie has
her arm
of her with Stilton
Maybe it will be explained in time, but I'm.... intrigued.
It's Wale, guys.
E_Darkness
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Just beat Dishonored 2 low chaos. Now I'm ready. Wish I went Emily because that story doesn't fit Corvo.
Anyway ready for tomorrow.
Anyway ready for tomorrow.
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