Flops is the number of single floating point operations. It's not related that much to Ram.
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[Eurogamer\DF] Orbis Unmasked: what to expect from the next-gen PlayStation.
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Flops is the number of single floating point operations. It's not related that much to Ram.
It's not impossible, I guess. There have been PCs and laptops that use a Cell CPU as a co-processor in the way the article described. Not sure what they'd do about the PS3's RAM or GPU, though...
Can Crusher
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His question is how will the added ram translate to more power when there's a 600 GFlop deficit.
4GB GDDR5... please be true, pretty please. Also trying to contain my hype.. but..
I have a PS3 already and I'm not looking to buy the next Playstation to play PS3 games. No one should care.
I have a PS3 already and I'm not looking to buy the next Playstation to play PS3 games. No one should care.
I am sure if you ask aegis Orbis has Atari 520 cpu. two days ago he said he has no clue on ps4, now all of a sudden he know everything about cpu? ok...
yup...waiting for a spin reply
AndrewDean84xX
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Good point, and lets not forget that other things might ship in each of the boxes that may make a huge difference from each other.
Specs, techs, smes, etc. It's how they are advertised, priced and packaged is what matters most.
256MB.
Ah okay... Sorry but my reading comprehension in any other than my native language suffers from too much beer.
JonathanPower
Member
However, it's also true the opposite. If Durango will have an overbloated OS, then the PS4 will have more power available for games and will feature better graphics, and PS4 games will look superior in comparinson with Xbox720 games. This is why I don't think these rumors of Durango having an overbloated OS are true.
Karak
Member
Mainly those comments are hear because the people who are ingrained in these forums are technical fans as well. So its not too strange to see those posts.
But of course the rest of the world is different.
If developers are happy and are applauding Microsoft's design choices, I think you don't have to worry too much. The crop of rumors from early last year have suggested Microsoft had the power edge, but this isn't what is important. It will be mostly similar.
Can Crusher
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Let's not put words in his mouth. I didn't say he said it.
0.600 tflops, far from similar.
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
You know, some want just play games with their gaming consoles, and don`t care for "services" and "features". We have other devices for that.
Shocker, and 3 GB reserved are a waste of resources for those gamers.
I really hope that the next gen consoles will be able to produce 1080p games that still look what many on GAF consider "next gen." I'll accept 720p if it's necessary for a game to run at 60 frames per second, but that's it.
What's ironic is that depending on what Steambox manufacturers end up doing (if those manufacturers even exist that is), they could end up serving the same purpose, just to a different end.
I've been thinking this for a while. The all-purpose set-top-box might end up being the next front in the Google/Amazon/Apple device war, and Microsoft wants to get ahead.
What's ironic is that depending on what Steambox manufacturers end up doing (if those manufacturers even exist that is), they could end up serving the same purpose, just to a different end.
I've been thinking this for a while. The all-purpose set-top-box might end up being the next front in the Google/Amazon/Apple device war, and Microsoft wants to get ahead.
So if i tape them together i get SS4 gogeta?
... Just don't judge gaming performance by raw power. There's more to it than just flops.
metalslimer
Member
So? Some people like using their consoles for other services, so you want MS to just abandon those peopel?
To be fair 1.8 teraflops compared to 1.2 teraflops is a significant gap if true. No optimization/customization can make up for such a difference. So Orbis will have the edge in GPU centric games assuming that's true and final.
Psychotext
Member
You seem to have a real hardon for that guy. Maybe you should just put him on ignore if his posts rile you so much.
like what
A few guesses just based on games we've seen so far:
1313
Watch Dogs
MGS GZ/PP/V
A lot of big Sony dev teams have been quiet for quite a while but who knows what will be at launch and what will be the second wave.
blast processing
Sounds like it won't be too far off the divide and differences this gen.
I won't repeat what others here have stated a thousand times in other next gen threads. Educate yourself in those
not really, I don't mind the guy at all. I just said IF he all of a sudden knows about Orbis CPU (whoever said it earlier) while 2 days ago saying he knows almost nothing on Orbis. That is a bit strange. But hey you can have your hardon and never ask any questions, just believe everything.
Blood Diamonds
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So will it be close to CGI?
Can Crusher
Banned
Million dollar question ain't it? Not enough info still mang
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Dont tease us!
I won't repeat what others here have stated a thousand times in other next gen threads. Educate yourself in those
So you don't have an answer, then don't reply bro. Nice spin btw if I was new to the internet it might have worked.
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
Shocker, you are in the minority thus you don't matter.
More people use these services and feathers than not so why would they remove them? Because 0.1% of the install base throws a tantrum?
MikeE21286
Member
So the way I'm reading this and processing this in my mind says....
The only thing holding back the development of "next gen games " was the existence of the ps3/360, and developers developing with them in mind while ignoring the existing PC hardware abilities.
Not really sure if I want these Orbis/Durango now. I don't see a need to replace my i5/570/12GB Current setup.
The only thing holding back the development of "next gen games " was the existence of the ps3/360, and developers developing with them in mind while ignoring the existing PC hardware abilities.
Not really sure if I want these Orbis/Durango now. I don't see a need to replace my i5/570/12GB Current setup.
IIRC he said he had some fairly credible rumors but didn't have enough certainty yet to share not that he had no clue
Oh sheeeeet. In that case all a next gen console needs is 512MB RAM reserved for OS. Vita pretty much does everything I want. Multitasking is great, I can have a game running while I open the store, web browser, listen to music, cross chat, or even open another games LiveArea to view leaderboards. The cool thing is it's instant (unlike PS3), The only thing Vita cannot do is run a video or a video application like Netflix or YouTube while running a game, but I am sure they can do this and more if the double the #RAM from 256MB to 512MB.
What services are u speaking of?
Sir, I'd like to purchase the floppiest console you have.
I blame Epic for the incredible extrapolations people seem to come to using literally only FLOPS as a measure.
Can Crusher
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Man what would happen to your head if U4 ran better on Durango? Explode!?
lol j/k
Yeah, we don't really need another jack of all trades-
What are you talking about lol. 512MB is more than enough for the features you speak of and considerably more than used for the 360, PS3 and Vita. In other words, the PS4 could have more features than has ever been used or seen in a console thus far.
The 3gb is extreme, but it's use will likely be for stuff that no one knows about or uses yet. But you can't say whether people will or won't use them yet because you don't even know what they are.
Don't delude yourself into thinking that there are magical devices that can make up for such a power difference. There can be optimizations that increase efficiency and separate modules which are intended to be used to offload certain tasks but raw performance is still a fundamental metric and 1.8tf vs 1.2tf means that there is a clear advantage in GPU perfomance.
bro just stop.
well said.
this is why something doesn't add up with these rumors. there is no way ms gives that much advantage to sony.'
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46202619&postcount=931
ok.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
yeah, nothing new i guess. while i believe a few people in here (like lherre for example, which has proved in the past to be a reliable source of information) actually know what's up, others are only parroting what they're hearing from other forums and 4th hand information that's doesn't seem to be up to date, or missing information altogether.
Blood Diamonds
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Now, imagine if Nintendo had made something as powerful as the Orbis seems to be and gave all that power to Nintendo first party developers.Oh god, imagine all that power in the hands of Sony first party developers.
*cries*
Guys, MS are experts on OS's and they'd be fools if they reserved more than 1 GB for all OS functions including Kinect. Look at what they can accomplish in 32MB in the 360. This whole 3GB talk is crazy.
Think about it, if the 720 is B/C with the 360, you'd be able to fit an entire game into memory, no loading times ever.
Think about it, if the 720 is B/C with the 360, you'd be able to fit an entire game into memory, no loading times ever.