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IGN Rumor: Nintendo Revealing New Hardware at E3 [Up: MCV + Videogamer]

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Mr. F

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I'd be ok with a new console if it was worth it, but maaaan I'd better be drowning in Wii U ambassador discounts/offers
 
I'm thinking a stationary tablet resembling a digital picture frame that you leave around the house. It has ambient sensors to detect your presence and could possibly also have a built in temperature/humidity/pressure sensor that matches the environments to historical data and current conditions. It was described in a patent from a while back and seems to fit in the non-wearable category.

Yeah something like this. An infoscreen witch cumulates your different tracking devices like a wristband, pedometer ( all branded nintendo) etc or just gives you nutrition tips, weather, monitors your heart, blood etc etc. All unified with some gamey overlay.
 
It's too early for a new handheld and way too early for a new console, must be their QOL thing though I have absolutely no idea what it could be. I just hope it won't be named Wii___, surely they've finally realized that the brand is dead.

I'm starting to think it might just be easier to make an image explaining why this is factually wrong and posting that when people say this instead of explaining it over and over again.
 

blu

Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Not specifically, no. Windows, Linux, Mac.
No BSD? Oh well, people always forget about that one.

Ok, what if you ran a browser on your home-computer desktop (or your phone, or your tablet, or your <insert capable browser device here>) to access, say, google docs on a POWER-based cloud. Would that make any difference to you in terms of modern-ism? Or is it all about what runs the browser?

Yes, they are computers. They are made up of the same parts of computers and do a lot of the same jobs as computers even though they are more focused on games than anything else. The same could be said for mobile devices(as far as doing the same things and being made of similar stuff), but consoles are much more closely related to PCs, even if that line is blurred everyday.
What makes consoles much more related to PCs, which does not hold true for mobiles, as you note yourself? I do have to ask here, since our discussion tends to stumble on terminology here and there, and we'd rather avoid that.
 

BM8

Neo Member
Im hoping its a gamepad revision. Make it smaller, and more appealing, with keeping the same screen size.
 
All bets on 3DS revision. Maybe a Wii U revision but I highly doubt it. QoL isn't really gaming so I doubt it'll even show up at E3.

I expect 3ds revisions every 1 to 2 years, but it's only been 8 months since the last one, I think that a Wii u and/or gamepad revision is more likely for this year, but it might be nothing.

I'm starting to think it might just be easier to make an image explaining why this is factually wrong and posting that when people say this instead of explaining it over and over again.

A brand new system is another possibility, there's no big lineup of software for the 3ds beyond e3, I can only find Smash Brothers, they could just jump onto something new instead of announcing a big bunch of 3ds games, but we'll see.
 
Hi! I left the message below on the news story linked in the OP, but I figured I should leave it here as well:

"I understand why someone would consider what we discussed newsworthy, but this story completely ignores an important piece of context: We didn't trust these sources enough to run a story on IGN."

So how exactly does that square with this?

IGN's Peer Schneider said:
They are absolutely going to show new hardware this year, there is no doubt in my mind... I've heard it from multiple people now. I've heard it from someone who used to be at Nintendo, I've heard it from somebody on the third-party front." Source

So what's the deal? Peer Schneider is a hack without the same journalistic guidelines as IGN? Or IGN is backpedaling for some other reason? The words are there. There isn't a lot of ambiguity to Schneider's claim.
 
I expect 3ds revisions every 1 to 2 years, but it's only been 8 months since the last one, I think that a Wii u or gamepad revision is more likely for this year, but it might be nothing.

The 2DS was a very different kind of revision though. I expect an actual 3DS/3DS XL revision sometime later this year and a discontnuation of the OG 3DS.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Oh, look! It's linked with the Fusion hardware rumour. Then it must be true! No other way around, those configurations are so realistic that it must be it!
 

SerodD

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I'm starting to think it might just be easier to make an image explaining why this is factually wrong and posting that when people say this instead of explaining it over and over again.

Game Boy Advance to Nintendo Ds, 2001 to 2004. (That's okay.)

3DS to Future handheld, 2011 to (2014?) (Not possible, no one will buy Nintendo hardware again!)
 

ironcreed

Banned
Not sure if you are aware of what that means, but this really would not apply in either case.

I know exactly what it means. Spreading misinformation that can harm. In this case, people would be upset that there was no big hardware reveal, as is being hinted at with this 'news.' That most certainly qualifies as a form of FUD.
 

BY2K

Membero Americo
The Nintendo Fusion rumor mentions Holographic Versatile Disc has the media storage format for their games. It can store TBs of data and is expensive as fuck, not meant for consumer use.

This is crap.
 

Shikamaru Ninja

任天堂 の 忍者
I would agree, but Nintendo can a) never ride the 3DS till 2017 and b) support a launch of two devices at once. Just not going to happen. The software architecture will be unified as stated by iwata himself. Hardware remains specialised, as said, again, by Iwata himself.

The market can not support individual Iterarions of each Nintendo franchise anymore. They simply can not develop two different Mario Karts every generation anymore. Especially when the console space is shrinking and getting closer to diminishing returns.

It makes sense to launch console and portable machines that play the same software. How big would the IPad / Apple TV market be if it required individual software skus for each.

It really should be a clear decision at this point. Especially with a new platform existing parallel.
 
Game Boy Advance to Nintendo Ds, 2001 to 2004. (That's okay.)

3DS to Future handheld, 2011 to (2014?) (Not possible, no one will buy Nintendo hardware again!)

And anything announced this year at E3 would probably be coming out sometime next year.
 

LordGouda

Member
The Nintendo Fusion rumor mentions Holographic Versatile Disc has the media storage format for their games. It can store TBs of data and is expensive as fuck, not meant for consumer use.

This is crap.

Sounds like something from 4chan.
 

Malio

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If this really is a 3DS re-design...hmmmm. I am sitting on a 3DS XL Pokemon Special Edition handheld, maybe now's a good time to unload it?
 
This is quite likely nothing, although if Nintendo intends to stay in hardware they need to be announcing a new handheld in, like, the next six months.

For the life of me I still can't wrap my head around what the "QoL platform" would even be like.

  • Not a portable.
  • Not a wearable.
  • Not something that would displace or directly compete the Wii U or 3DS.
  • ...But it still has to mesh with the rest of their ecosystem to some extent.
  • Implied to have connections to things like health, entertainment, education, exercise, cooking, and domestic stuff.
  • Stands on its own enough that it's considered a "platform" and not just a new group of software and peripherals for existing systems.

Nintendo sends a forceful yet polite maid/cook/personal trainer to live in your house, and she uses the Wii U gamepad to send your personal stats back to Nintendo's servers.
 
What about a cheap Wii U model that includes a balance board and some type of upgraded Fit Meter-type attachment. No gamepad included, one Wiimote, specialized QOL OS.

They want to enforce the gamepad, not get rid of it. On the contrary, a touch device in the household will be key to qol and games. They will never get rid of it. ^^ Adding more hardware, especially a balance board wouldn´t make it cheaper though. The NNID will be key to use all your Nintendo devices together. But don´t expect a Wii U without a tablet, a redesign maybe, but for Nintendo, the tablet is key.
 

monlo

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cheaper Wii U model, with somehow cheaper revised tablet controller.

that's my guess

or, a Wii U controller + 3DS combo, if you wanna flip the world upside down
 
They want to enforce the gamepad, not get rid of it. On the contrary, a touch device in the household will be key to qol and games. They will never get rid of it. ^^ Adding more hardware, especially a balance board wouldn´t make it cheaper though. The NNID will be key to use all your Nintendo devices together. But don´t expect a Wii U without a tablet, a redesign maybe, but for Nintendo, the tablet is key.

Nintendo also wanted to create games that showed how useful 3D was. In the end, they offered another SKU to make the device cheaper. I don't think they actually will get rid of, but let's not keep pretending it is completely out of the realm of possibility.

I think a cheaper Wii U with a redesigned gamepad(to be cheaper) is more likely though.

Also, the shitstorm is going to be intense when Nintendo spends a signficant amount of time for the QOL.
 

Riki

Member
This is quite likely nothing, although if Nintendo intends to stay in hardware they need to be announcing a new handheld in, like, the next six months.



Nintendo sends a forceful yet polite maid/cook/personal trainer to live in your house, and she uses the Wii U gamepad to send your personal stats back to Nintendo's servers.

I'll take three!
 

10k

Banned
I bet these 'rumours' are just from that keyword in the website's source code.
I was gonna come to post this. My bet is the yearly 3DS revision that gets released along side a big exclusive. 2012 was NSMB2 and the 3DS XL. 2013 was the 2DS and Pokemon X/Y. This will probably be a 3DSXLi or something lol.
 
The market can not support individual Iterarions of each Nintendo franchise anymore. They simply can not develop two different Mario Karts every generation anymore. Especially when the console space is shrinking and getting closer to diminishing returns.

It makes sense to launch console and portable machines that play the same software. How big would the IPad / Apple TV market be if it required individual software skus for each.

It really should be a clear decision at this point. Especially with a new platform existing parallel.

Agreed. They wan´t to approach this by software and to some degree we will get there. But they just can´t afford launching two devices at once. On the other hand they will ride out the Wii U at least till late 2016 but the 3DS won´t live this long. I still say 4DS at E3 2015. MAybe they would like to introduce it even sooner, but QoL is taking ressources and media buzz itself. I´ll stick to my prediction. ^^
 
I'm starting to think it might just be easier to make an image explaining why this is factually wrong and posting that when people say this instead of explaining it over and over again.

Why is it wrong then? The 3DS is only 3 years old. GBA to DS was because of the PSP, there's no such competition now.
 
I'd say a cheaper Wii U model that doesn't require the U pad and is released along side a system update that doesn't require the pad to be on when the system is up and running.
 

TriGen

Member
So how exactly does that square with this?



So what's the deal? Peer Schneider is a hack without the same journalistic guidelines as IGN? Or IGN is backpedaling for some other reason? The words are there. There isn't a lot of ambiguity to Schneider's claim.

Listen to the show, if you haven't. I just did to get clarification. Peer is very confident about hardware but he doesn't know exactly what type of hardware. Otero told him to chill and not get carried away with what he was hearing. I assume one guy hearing about some non-descript hardware from an old ex-Nintendo employee and a third-party acquaintance isn't enough for a story. If Peer knew exactly what was gonna be shown instead and his sources were current Nintendo employees IGN might run the story.
 

Oersted

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This is quite likely nothing, although if Nintendo intends to stay in hardware they need to be announcing a new handheld in, like, the next six months.



Nintendo sends a forceful yet polite maid/cook/personal trainer to live in your house, and she uses the Wii U gamepad to send your personal stats back to Nintendo's servers.

The-Stepford-Wives_7744_11.jpg
 

10k

Banned
I mean, don't you think if it was a new console or handheld they would have held a press conference for such a huge announcement instead of shoving it in a direct?
 

dolabla

Member
I'm a Wii U owner and I'd have 0 issue with them doing a radical redesign or a successor.

Same here. I own a Wii U and would be perfectly fine with a new more powerful successor announced. My Wii U doesn't get played much (though that will change when MK8 comes out). If they do announce, they need to do everything in their power to get third party developers back on board.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Sometimes I just wish Nintendo would launch a cheaper Wii U without the Gamepad, as it is, just to read all the threads here complaining about it.
 

Riki

Member
I'd say a cheaper Wii U model that doesn't require the U pad and is released along side a system update that doesn't require the pad to be on when the system is up and running.

That would be awful for navigation and ease of use on the system.
 

joseotero

Neo Member
So how exactly does that square with this?



So what's the deal? Peer Schneider is a hack without the same journalistic guidelines as IGN? Or IGN is backpedaling for some other reason? The words are there. There isn't a lot of ambiguity to Schneider's claim.

It's a conversation, and sometimes we get carried away. Peer did make the above argument, but we also framed the discussion around the context that we weren't sure. Unfortunately, the author made no effort to convey that in his news story.

If we believed what we'd heard, you wouldn't have found out about it on another site. We would have run that story ourselves. Just food for thought.
 
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