hosannainexcelsis
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When developers are making the leap into full 3D, their first 3D games usually look worse than their previous 2D games.
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The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel |OT| Class Warfare
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When developers are making the leap into full 3D, their first 3D games usually look worse than their previous 2D games.
The jump wasn't that bad, if you look at other companies like Gust and Atelier Rorona.
Basileus777
Member
Cold Steel is actually pretty reminiscent of some of Gust's earlier PS3 games.
BassForever
Member
Why? It feels so inconsistent why on Earth would Falcom do that?
tryptobphan
Member
I actually like the look of the game quite a bit. It's shocking going from Trails in the Sky 1 (didn't start SC yet since I didn't beat FC) to ToCS.
Indeed they are, but closer to Ar Tonelico Qoga or Atelier Totori than something like Atelier Rorona.
I have no idea, it still irks me when it happens.
I guess they're too small/poor to afford full VA.
I was just looking up some old sales numbers and I didn't realize Trails of Azure opened to 127,938 copies on its opening week for PSP only. That's better than Zero, which was 84k - I was expecting it to be less since it's a sequel.
In fact, that means that Azure did better than Zero, Cold Steel and Cold Steel II if confined to single platforms (which all debuted at about 80k for their respective portable platforms, although the fact that CS and CSII are also on PS3 means that those titles are like 150k-160k on opening week.)
That being said, the fact that CS and CSII are dual platform means that they're the best selling Kiseki right now and are the 'big money makers' for Falcom.
It's funny that Ys has changed from being the flagship Falcom franchise that shows where the company is in its life to Trails being the central moneymaker. Maybe it's the relative drought for no-nonsense, traditional JRPGs that aren't panty quests.
In fact, that means that Azure did better than Zero, Cold Steel and Cold Steel II if confined to single platforms (which all debuted at about 80k for their respective portable platforms, although the fact that CS and CSII are also on PS3 means that those titles are like 150k-160k on opening week.)
That being said, the fact that CS and CSII are dual platform means that they're the best selling Kiseki right now and are the 'big money makers' for Falcom.
It's funny that Ys has changed from being the flagship Falcom franchise that shows where the company is in its life to Trails being the central moneymaker. Maybe it's the relative drought for no-nonsense, traditional JRPGs that aren't panty quests.
Why no love for the Destructoid review in the OP?
http://www.destructoid.com/review-the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-328087.phtml
http://www.destructoid.com/review-the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-328087.phtml
The Trails series offers really great character interactions, which is what's proven to be most popular with Japanese RPG fans. I really think it's that simple. They put out PSP demos and that combined with magazine reviews really pushed the series ahead. That is also the reason why Falcom has been trying to turn Ys into Trails by giving it more exposition and placing more importance on characters besides Adol.
Well, yeah, I've been thinking of 'recent' as being in the last eight years. Then again, we're all getting older.
True. However, I don't think it really fits Ys. I get WHY from a business standpoint, but there's something to be said about Oath in Felghana style storytelling. I think OiF was probably the peak of what I'm looking for when I play Ys.
I think the most story I'm really willing to get out of Ys was in Origins, to be honest. Any more than that and it's kind of unnecessary. Hell, I loved Seven, but the story wasn't its strong point, although it had really awesome moments in it
adol fighting the monster in a colosseum
Dandy Crocodile
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Cause this time of year is super busy and I've been getting on GAF almost exclusively on mobile.
It'll be updated with new reviews the next time I get to a computer.
BassForever
Member
So looking at the 100% guide there always seems to be more bonding opportunities then bonding points available. Should I s/l to see all dialogue options then stick with the ones I want for gameplay or are these more like persona s.links where it doesn't really matter when or in what order you do them the character stories always plays out the same and you can still get 100% regardless of what order you do them.
Basileus777
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I don't think there are enough points in a given playthrough to max everyone.
LifeBrandRobot
Member
Ooo looks like my Lion Heart Edition was delivered early. How spoilery is the art book? I would like to go through it before playing.
If you want to see all their events and get their trophies, you'll need to make a strategic save file on a specific day of October, in order to max their link, see the event and reload that same save file for the remaining characters.
Very. Do not do that.
Xenoflare
Member
I cancelled my LE from EB after their inability to furfil my order on time and I got it on digital.
Have to say I'm slightly disappointed for now (maybe its because I'm still mad at EB) but I remember the music was much better in TiTs 3rd.
Or maybe I'm just getting old. It's been 4-5 years since I finished the TiTs trilogy.
Other than that I'm enjoying it so far aside from the offensively small font and HUDs
Have to say I'm slightly disappointed for now (maybe its because I'm still mad at EB) but I remember the music was much better in TiTs 3rd.
Or maybe I'm just getting old. It's been 4-5 years since I finished the TiTs trilogy.
Other than that I'm enjoying it so far aside from the offensively small font and HUDs
Basileus777
Member
This game is giving me the "talk to everyone all the time" disease far worse than the previous games.
The fact that they break down individual days, and some of those days to individual phases, that's OCD material right there.
What? Each with unique dialogue for all the NPC's? Oh dear this game is going to take an age isn't it?
SatelliteOfLove
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Ch. 1.
Characters developing personalities!
OK, Sara is Scherazade.
The music reminds me of P4 and FF VIII (fitting of course).
Characters developing personalities!
OK, Sara is Scherazade.
The music reminds me of P4 and FF VIII (fitting of course).
Is there Clock Down and is it still game breaking? Because that spell was super easy mode in SC and I loved it.
Not always, but the prospect of a NPC that just told you something suddenly giving you an option subquest the very next day phase can make you crazy. Either go OCD and talk to everyone every single phase or follow a subquest guide for that.
I haven't played SC, but there is nothing quite game breaking that I've found yet. Maybe Rean's first craft, if you time it wisely, can postpone the enemy's phase almost indefinitely during a battle as long as he's fast enough and doesn't run out of CP, but that's about it.
Aaronrules380
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Imperial chronicles 3-FC/SC spoilers
known for his refined tastes. Well that's one way of putting it lol
Prince Olivert
Basileus777
Member
With the way orbments and spell unlocks work in this, what is the purpose of quartz lines?
Se7enSword
Banned
The advantage of long lines is that they get tons of EP when you open slots.
The further a slot is into a line, the higher EP you get upon unlocking it, but in turn they cost more sepith.
So for example, a character with a full straight line for all 8 slots would end up with 800 EP and someone else who doesn't have that may end up with..say 400 EP
fuck yoooooou lol
Prologue finished. Like most games it takes a while to come to grips with the battle system and how everything works, but by the end of the dungeon it started feeling like second nature. I noticed they simplified the Quartz system in that you no longer need to add up septium lines to unlock spells, the quartz themselves grant the spell. Not sure how I feel about that, since it means you now have to choose between improving your stats or gaining a spell every time you fill a slot instead of having your cake and eating it too.
Shouta
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Quartz Lines were de-emphasized in Cold Steel to make it less rigid when compared to Sky and Zero/Ao. The biggest benefit you get is that chars with long Quartz Lines get more MP, making them more natural casters. However, now chars with short lines also have a benefit. Before, you couldn't equip multiples of quartz that caused status effects to enemies but Cold Steel lets you do that as long as each effect is on a separate line, as I recall.
Basileus777
Member
Ah. So there's no strategy to where you place your quartz in them like in Trails in the Sky?
Edit:
So placement matters for certain types of quartz then. Well, at least I won't have to keep checking my notebook every time I change orbments to make sure the numbers are right for the spells I want.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
With the coverage this is getting, I wonder if it has given a boost to SC at all. Because that sort of stumbled out with zero acknowledgement or marketing, while by comparison CS has gotten a lot of reviews, prominent PS Store placement, and multiple social media mentions by Sony's official outlets.
Se7enSword
Banned
Yeah, i'm hoping it gives a boost to SC somehow. Really loving how much attention Cold Steel has received so far.
Basileus777
Member
Launching in the holiday death zone actually worked out for them in terms of generating attention. Hopefully it translate to sales.
I just kinda half assed it and went for big numbers, and tried to weed out the ones that gave just 1 once more options were available. I do need to check for specific spells at least at the end game, but before then it's not too bad.
ChickenHunter
Member
So Rean's sword style is
the same as Cassius' then? That's pretty cool.
Pellegri Testament
Member
Was about to say that normal mode for this seems rather easy, then I hit the ch1 end boss and actually had to worry about positioning and buffs lol. Also can't imagine what bosses would be like if status ailments didn't work on them, poison or burn ticking for 10% or so of their health is just amazing with how much health they have.
Yeah, I don't remember if they mentioned
Cassius' style ever but the mention of the Divine Blade
End of Chapter 1 plot guessing about Class VII:
Olivier is working with Cassius (or vice versa) to bring a new generation of Bracers to Erebonia
Sithlord77
Banned
Is it just me or is the soundtrack really good? I'm only at prologue but the themes are all nice. Even the town one.
It's refreshing to hear melodic tracks again after the ambient atmospheric nonsense I hear these days that tries to be like a movie soundtrack and is just boring.
It's refreshing to hear melodic tracks again after the ambient atmospheric nonsense I hear these days that tries to be like a movie soundtrack and is just boring.
Too bad he's useless in late game and in the sequel where he gets outclass by everyone.