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Unintentional Sexual Tension in Fiction

kirblar

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That...might not have been accidental on Finn's actor's part lol
 

Goro Majima

Kitty Genovese Member
Penguin and Riddler in Gotham at times felt a little tense. I haven't finished Season 3 though so just basing that off what I've seen.
 

kirblar

Member
Utter nonsense by the way. In the books he never expresses any remote interest in her like that, while you can see the Ron and Hermione relationship being foreshadowed from nearly their first interaction. In fact in the book of Goblet of Fire when it's just Harry and her hanging out while Ron is pissed at him for a few months, he all but says in the narration that he finds her kind of boring and just misses Ron's company.

I feel like that whole idea is just people shipping the actors from the movies, or worse, just projecting themselves onto the Hermione character and expecting a traditional "hero and most prominent female are love interests" format. It's absolute tripe as far as the books go.

Now Harry and Luna Lovegood in the films, on the other hand. That was some unintentional romantic writing that was not present in the books. Much more so than their actual intended romantic writing for him and Ginny.
It's not. The issue is that she wrote the ending at the start and never deviated, but Ron/Herimone's personalities ended up being so wildly mismatched that if they were a real couple they've probably be unhappily divorced w/ kids. Harry/Hermione's personalities were a much better fit.
 

DOWN

Banned
How has no one mentioned BioShock Infinite? The amount of Booker and Elizabeth porn art before launch was mortifying once we knew the story
 
By the Fourth book Rowling had already decided which way she was going to go, so taking anything past that as evidence is silly. If anything you want to be looking at the first three books, where it could have gone either way.

Book four is very clear about Ron and Hermione liking each other but being too immature/afraid to do anything about it. Before that, not so much.

What part of my post are you referring to?

I did mention the 3rd book. Harry gets upset with Hermione for turning in his Firebolt, and doesn't seem to be affected by her not being in his life as much anymore. Even when he gets it back and mentally forgives her, he still doesn't care enough to make much of an effort with her, and continues to pretty much ignore her just because Ron is pissed at her. At this point in the book, Hermione is barely mentioned unless Ron is involved. Harry, alone, rarely even thinks about her. Even when they both forgive her and begin talking to her again, it's Ron she seems to care more about.

Compare that to how utterly shit Harry's life seems to become in the 4th and 7th books when he and Ron are fighting, and how euphoric he gets both times when they fix things up. I'd say there's more sexual tension between book Harry/Ron than book Harry/Hermione. :p
 

Zolo

Member
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Guts and Griffith

The character dynamic that Guts and Griffith are likely mainly based on isn't unintentional about it.

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Another big influence, which was Guin Saga, was written by an author known for being one of the pioneers of yaoi.
 
Shinobu and Araragi from the Monogatari Series.



There isn't any romance between the two, but you'd think otherwise whenever they're involved in an arc.

There's sexual tension between Araragi and every female character on the show, even (especially?) his sisters and it's all very intentional.

I mean



The funny part is that the character he seems to have the least amount of chemistry with is his actual girlfriend.
 

Finaika

Member
There's sexual tension between Araragi and every female character on the show, even (especially?) his sisters and it's all very intentional.

I mean



The funny part is that the character he seems to have the least amount of chemistry with is his actual girlfriend.

What is this?
 
A lot of these examples seem so blatantly intentional to me.

Like, that clip of Killua kissing Gon, making his eyes go all heart-shaped... Do you seriously think the animators were all "whoops, we totally didn't mean to make viewers pair up these two characters romantically" ?
 

Zolo

Member
A lot of these examples seem so blatantly intentional to me.

Like, that clip of Killua kissing Gon, making his eyes go all heart-shaped... Do you seriously think the animators were all "whoops, we totally didn't mean to make viewers pair up these two characters romantically" ?

For what it's worth, that's an anime-only clip.
 

Macka

Member
Not really seeing it between Kit and Sophie. Although funnily enough last night was the episode where they drew parallels between her and
Cersei
lol.
 

takriel

Member
There's sexual tension between Araragi and every female character on the show, even (especially?) his sisters and it's all very intentional.

I mean



The funny part is that the character he seems to have the least amount of chemistry with is his actual girlfriend.
This is pure and utter trash. Who the fuck watches something like that and thinks that it's okay to continue watching such horrible bullshit? I mean it's so blatant I can't even
 
By the Fourth book Rowling had already decided which way she was going to go, so taking anything past that as evidence is silly. If anything you want to be looking at the first three books, where it could have gone either way.

Book four is very clear about Ron and Hermione liking each other but being too immature/afraid to do anything about it. Before that, not so much.
Didn’t JK say Ron and Hermione was a huge mistake and she regrets it?
 

Zertez

Member
I don't think the tension between Sansa and Jon Snow is unintentional. Sansa is using one of her tools playing the game, and remember the speeches Cersei gave her.
 
What part of my post are you referring to?

I did mention the 3rd book. Harry gets upset with Hermione for turning in his Firebolt, and doesn't seem to be affected by her not being in his life as much anymore. Even when he gets it back and mentally forgives her, he still doesn't care enough to make much of an effort with her, and continues to pretty much ignore her just because Ron is pissed at her. At this point in the book, Hermione is barely mentioned unless Ron is involved. Harry, alone, rarely even thinks about her. Even when they both forgive her and begin talking to her again, it's Ron she seems to care more about.

Compare that to how utterly shit Harry's life seems to become in the 4th and 7th books when he and Ron are fighting, and how euphoric he gets both times when they fix things up. I'd say there's more sexual tension between book Harry/Ron than book Harry/Hermione. :p

You seem to have a very different reading of the books than I do, and the fandom for that matter considering you referred to Hermione and Ron as a super popular pairing when they really weren't and the biggest by far had always been Harry and Hermione.

You're also drawing a real comparison of when Harry fell out with Hermione and Ron respectively. Circumstances were much different for Harry in both those instances, and far graver in book 4 when he needed his friends to be there to support him through the Triwizard Tournament and all Ron could do was project his unhappiness on Harry.

So yeah, Harry was more stressed out with Ron being gone in book 4, but when Hermione stayed, and when Ron left again in Deathly Hallows, Hermione was his rock once again. Honestly, when it comes to friendships, Hermione was always the better, more loyal friend, whereas Ron was really just a sounding board most of the time that Harry relied on to make himself feel better.

The comparability between Harry and Hermione was so obvious behind their shared experiences in the Muggle world was obvious from the start.
 
My issue with the Ron and Hermonie pairing is that, like Han and Leia, that relationship would not work.

They constantly get into fights and shouting matches together in the books and enter periods of not speaking to one another. Their personalities clash.

That's why Rowling said in hindsight the pairing wouldn't work with a lot of counseling. In the books, they constantly needed Harry as a buffer not to rip into each other.
 

Regginator

Member
I'd totally be not surprised if Kit and Sophie are banging behind the scenes of Game of Thrones. Especially last episode you could rather... feel the tension.
 

Ithil

Member
It's not. The issue is that she wrote the ending at the start and never deviated, but Ron/Herimone's personalities ended up being so wildly mismatched that if they were a real couple they've probably be unhappily divorced w/ kids. Harry/Hermione's personalities were a much better fit.

But...they weren't. Like this is made clear in the books, which I just pointed out. What exactly "fits" better, as though relationships are to be some kind of mathematical thing?
Where are people even getting this from? There's only two times in the books where it's just Harry and Hermione for an extended period, in Goblet of Fire where as I said, he finds her boring to be around without Ron, and in Deathly Hallows where she's miserable without Ron there.

Meanwhile in Prisoner of Azkaban when Hermione has a falling out with both of them and it's just him and Ron, he doesn't really miss her at all. As someone else pointed out, it takes Hagrid saying he's disappointed in Harry for caring so little that she's not around anymore for him to try to patch things up between her and Ron.
Ron and Hermione may clash a lot, but Harry and Hermione is just...nothing. You can't have a relationship based on nothing. You can have a turbulent one based on a strong attraction and attachment but clashing priorities/personalities, which is what the Ron/Hermione one is meant to be. It's not a perfect relationship but few are, and it's entirely ok to write a non-perfect relationship.

Harry may as well have a relationship with his broomstick for all the romantic connection he has. At least he actually misses that when it gets destroyed in the third book.
 
This is pure and utter trash. Who the fuck watches something like that and thinks that it's okay to continue watching such horrible bullshit? I mean it's so blatant I can't even

Now think how many GAF members with anime avatars are probably paedophiles, or at least attracted to kids.

Scary, innit.
 

Ithil

Member
How has no one mentioned BioShock Infinite? The amount of Booker and Elizabeth porn art before launch was mortifying once we knew the story

A major reason for this was the storyline changed heavily during development, as originally
she was written to be his love interest and unrelated to him, they overhauled the story at some point and she was rewritten to be his daughter instead.
 

Ithil

Member
You seem to have a very different reading of the books than I do, and the fandom for that matter considering you referred to Hermione and Ron as a super popular pairing when they really weren't and the biggest by far had always been Harry and Hermione.

Which had absolutely fuck all to do with the content of the books, and everything to do with things like fanfiction or fan expectations of "the hero and his female companion have to be love interests" or it has to be a long term love story. I believe the Potter fandom is pretty notorious for using Hermione as a self-insert for their fanfiction. In general you should not look to "shippers" for any kind of accurate reading of character relationships. They see whatever they want to see.

I look purely at what is in the books, not which genre conventions I expect to be fulfilled, and there is zero romantic writing between the two characters at any point in all seven books. The "like brother and sister" idea is overstated in fiction, but in this case it's 100% accurate to how they're written.
 
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