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Pokemon GO launches today in 26 more countries (RIP servers)
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MisterHero
Super Member
You'll do it for Pineco and love it
Is this type of attitude that keeps them from caring about Canada /s
That's what they all say till you find yourself waist deep in ice water looking for a golduck.
The Last One
Member
We'll find a way. We always do.
Nintendo only take %10 from the revenue.
30% for Google
30% for apple
30% for niantic
This what I've been told.
Any one can correct this?
BulletSmoke
Member
Sorry aboot that
Yautja_Warrior
Member
It's weird watching people on Facebook (non gamers) go mad over this, like they have just discovered something totally new, even though Pokemon has been around forever now.
I'd rather play a good Pokemon game on DS though, GO is complete shite, tried it for 10 mins and deleted it, just don't get the appeal, it's really not fun at all.
I'd rather play a good Pokemon game on DS though, GO is complete shite, tried it for 10 mins and deleted it, just don't get the appeal, it's really not fun at all.
The Apple and Google in app purchase cuts aren't combined, they are separate based on which device something was bought on so it's 30% of a purchase to the platform holder not 60% like you're assuming. I have no idea what the deal with Niantic is. Depending on what Nintendo/The Pokemon Company have worked out with Niantic, they are at 70% of a sale before whatever Niantic is taking gets pulled.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Other than the 30% to the platform holder (which is industry standard) there's no way to verify anything like that. Based on the fact that Nintendo owns the copyright to all of the Pokemon, 33% of TPC and a decent stake in Niantic, it's safe to assume they're making more than 10%.
There's also things that we can't put value on, like the increase in brand awareness and how that effects the sale of other Pokemon related merchandise.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Thats an estimate by an analyst, not confirmed.
Calamari41
41 > 38
The increase in brand awareness for the Pokemon IP and for Nintendo overall is priceless. Even if Nintendo were being fleeced and only got 10% of revenue... or none... they'd be making out like bandits still.
They just need to take advantage of this situation going forward.
I doubt Nintendo has only 10% share specialy when they pay 30 millions $ for the game
https://www.nianticlabs.com/blog/
IGN France confirms that Pokémon Go's release here was delayed because of the Nice terror attack.
Calm Mind
Member
33.13% - Nintendo
Make sense.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
There are ways to easily play it if you really want to.
civilstrife
Member
Servers down for anyone else, or are they region blocking Canadian players now?
Edit: nvm, just got in.
Edit: nvm, just got in.
Seriously.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Calm down, buddy.
Niantic doesn't really get direct money from the sales, as their revenue is based on the investments of the 3 companies: Google, Pokemon Co, and Nintendo invested an eventual total of 30 million dollars. Apple and Google also cuts into the overall profit as platform holders, but you should not include them as part of the overall distribution. So 70% ish of the money is split 3 ways, with Pokemon Co's third of a third going back to Nintendo. Based on this, Nintendo gets roughly a third of the money still from both platforms (on android, Google gets over half). The remiaining money is split between Creatures and Game Freak, the other owners of Pokemon Co.
friskykillface
Banned
Man if Apple X Google get 30% each , jeez that's just crazy
I can see 15% be fair but 30% , they didn't develop the game
I can see 15% be fair but 30% , they didn't develop the game
That's the standard cut for pretty much any platform holder, so yes they absolutely do get 30%. We don't know how much Google's investment into Niantic might add to the revenue though. The poster above also probably didn't make it clear that 30% is only per platform, so the total for platform holders from total revenue is not 60% (The publisher makes 70%, which is then distributed to the investors and Niantic themselves),as probably explained better above:
SinCityAssassin
Member
Thems the breaks of Third Party development.
If we assume Google invested an equal amount of money with Nintendo and Pokemin Co, they would get a third of the remaining profit from the Android platform, which nets them over half overall.
That's $30 million TOTAL from 3 different companies. And technically its just $20 million total with the last $10 million coming from incentives to be awarded under certain conditions (downloads, longevity, ARPDAU, etc). I'd be surprised if every party involved wasn't directly making more than what Nintendo would be from it's initial investment.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Google makes most of the money as the app is available on their platform, but as Nintendo owns part of Pokemon Co, they make the most money after that by default through a combined revenue stream made up of their own investment and through owning a third of the company.
From what I understand, it started out as an April Fools thing from Google (which might have been the Niantic pitch) that Nintendo decide to pursue further considering the interesting things that could be done with the concept.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Nintendo was involved directly with the April Fools joke as Iwata and Pokemon Co pitched the original idea, soon after Niantic heads discussed with the Pokemon Company about a joint project. Nintendo did light supervising after that, but their main involvement was creating an accompanying peripheral.
hemo memo
Gold Member
50 C in Saudi Arabia Fuck yah.
FTFY
Insane Metal
Member
CTRL + f Brazil
I'm not gonna play it, but...
The Last One
Member
Nintendo still makes money in both platforms (iOS and Android).
If I have to guess, I'd say Nintendo makes the most of the money over this game, with Google and Apple as a close second, and then TPC and its owners (Creatures and Game Freak).
Yeah, that could be the case, but given we're talking about a private company it's likely that the 3 investors don't necessarily own all of the company (which makes shacknews article above just a possibility) and it includes the value of an existing IP, there are other possibilities too.
It's sucks that you don't get it. I love that everyone, even non gamers, get it.
CosmicQueso
Member
Embarrassing.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Google ALSO makes money on both platforms, you realize.
Get out of the fucking area that has Weedles into a new area that does not have Weedles, it's a very simple concept, traveling places. Go near a creek bed, find water Pokemon. It's not that hard to grasp.
Conkerkid11
Member
"We're holding off on releasing it in more countries while we fix the server issues."
"Ignore that first statement. We didn't need servers anyways."
"Ignore that first statement. We didn't need servers anyways."
Calm Mind
Member
False, at least according to http://www.shacknews.com/article/95801/how-much-money-is-nintendo-going-to-make-off-of-pokemon-go
Wow my math was surprisingly close for a guess.
The Last One
Member
Oh yeah, for sure.
But as money goes, Google keeps a smaller part over the iOS platform then Nintendo and - I believe - Apple.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Nintendo gets 31% across both platforms while Google stands to get 53% from Android and 23% from iOS. I'm saying overall they're making the most.
Abstrusity
Member
I went to a lake and only got more weedles.
No water pokemon. Nothing.
But then Staryu appears in front of my house, three miles from any lake.
D
Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Sad to see people quoting this when it's so obviously just a bunch of nonsense, especially considering it assumes Niantic gets nothing, which is unfathomable.
Pretty much bored of the game already. I'm just not seeing the point. Why bother picking a Pokemon at the start when it doesn't even do anything? Is it pretty much just chance if they break out of the poke ball?
Its probably been mentioned loads but you should be able to fight the wild Pokemon otherwise there's very little engagement from the player.
See a Pokemon, tap it, throw the ball, done and repeat.
Its probably been mentioned loads but you should be able to fight the wild Pokemon otherwise there's very little engagement from the player.
See a Pokemon, tap it, throw the ball, done and repeat.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Remember how when Wonderful 101 flopped, everyone noted that it wouldn't be detrimental to Platinum because they were already paid to make it?