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rc213
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(12-10-2010, 09:58 PM)
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I need to figure out a way to force the McCheaps to sell to Steve Garvey lead group. Hell I'd take crazy ass Mark Cuban.
CygnusXS
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(12-10-2010, 10:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sharp

All GMs (except maybe Jim Hendry) use a ton of SABR-oriented stuff at this point. They're not stupid. Their statements to the public have nothing to do with the comparisons they're doing behind the scenes. They also have access to stats and data that we don't (particularly HitFX stuff).

That's what I've figured, but like Windu said it's nice to have actual confirmation that the team actively cares about it.
Windu
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(12-10-2010, 10:04 PM)
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you can now filter leaderboards on fangraphs by multiple seasons.



http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...tiple-seasons/

WAR leaders since 2001 (pujols first season)

Code:

Pujols     80.6
Arod       70.6
Berkman    53.4
Ichiro     50.7
Chipper    50.6
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...0&season1=2001
CajoleJuice
(12-10-2010, 10:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Windu

you can now filter leaderboards on fangraphs by multiple seasons.



http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...tiple-seasons/

WAR leaders since 2001 (pujols first season)

Code:

Pujols     80.6
Arod       70.6
Berkman    53.4
Ichiro     50.7
Chipper    50.6
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...0&season1=2001

You can do multiple seasons PLUS splits. It's amazing. Although, access to B-Ref's Play Index is even more amazing.
mYm|17|
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(12-10-2010, 10:12 PM)
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http://bostonherald.com/sports/colum...icleid=1302167

who the fuck is this little twat?
ViperVisor
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(12-10-2010, 10:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Windu

WAR leaders since 2001 (pujols first season)

Code:

Pujols     80.6
Arod       70.6
Berkman    53.4
Ichiro     50.7
Chipper    50.6
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...0&season1=2001

I was drawn to the Team column. Easy to see the guys who have only been on 1.
CajoleJuice
(12-10-2010, 10:25 PM)
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David Wright is 4th in WAR over the past 5 years! He's good! Really! :(
Windu
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(12-10-2010, 10:46 PM)
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1996-2007 CF UZR 150

Code:

1.  Andruw Jones    20.6
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2.  Aaron Rowand    11.4
3.  Corey Patterson 9.9
4.  Juan Pierre     6.1
5.  Jim Edmonds     5.5
[IMG]http://i40.************/2yza7o7.gif[/IMG]

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...0&season1=1996

edit: and yeah UZR hasn't been around since 96, still hilarious how good he was though.
Last edited by Windu; 12-10-2010 at 10:59 PM.
mYm|17|
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(12-10-2010, 10:54 PM)
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Yea, so Longo is a goddamn STUD at 3B according to Fangraphs. I approve

Was amazing how many DP's he started himself
Joe Shlabotnik
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(12-10-2010, 10:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Windu

1996-2007 CF UZR 150

Code:

1.  Andruw Jones    20.6
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2.  Aaron Rowand    11.4
3.  Corey Patterson 9.9
4.  Juan Pierre     6.1
5.  Jim Edmonds     5.5
[IMG]http://i40.************/2yza7o7.gif[/IMG]

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...0&season1=1996

Holy crap, 120 UZR
Celsior
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(12-10-2010, 11:32 PM)
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I saw something funny
Vernon Wells is making 23 mil this season. :lol
Sanjuro
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(12-10-2010, 11:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by mYm|17|

http://bostonherald.com/sports/colum...icleid=1302167

who the fuck is this little twat?

Steve Buckley? He is alright.
Dmncnby2k9
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(12-11-2010, 12:01 AM)
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Sumbody hacked into Jon Heymans twitter n reported that Zack Greinke was traded to the Phillies. Mlb Network called Greinke and assured it was false :lol
effzee
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(12-11-2010, 12:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dmncnby2k9

Sumbody hacked into Jon Heymans twitter n reported that Zack Greinke was traded to the Phillies. Mlb Network called Greinke and assured it was false :lol

Heard it on the radio and was like OH HELL YEAH but then they confirmed it was fake :(
CajoleJuice
(12-11-2010, 12:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dmncnby2k9

Sumbody hacked into Jon Heymans twitter n reported that Zack Greinke was traded to the Phillies. Mlb Network called Greinke and assured it was false :lol

That's amazing. :lol
Windu
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(12-11-2010, 12:12 AM)
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sounds like it was just someone with a close twitter name to his.

edit: http://twitter.com/SL_JonHeyman

L instead of I
Last edited by Windu; 12-11-2010 at 12:16 AM.
Overlee
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(12-11-2010, 12:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Windu

sounds like it was just someone with a close twitter name to his.


yup. his is SI_JonHeyman, I wonder if someone made up a name and just replaced the "I" with a lowercase "L" so it would be Sl_JonHeyman. Kids used to do that all the time on the old message boards I used to visit. :lol

edit: beaten by an edit.
Windu
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(12-11-2010, 12:20 AM)
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7 is this offseason's favorite number. The Rockies have offered Carlos Gonzalez a 7 year deal.

FRIDAY, 4:45pm: Monfort confirmed that the team has offered Gonzalez a seven-year extension, but questioned the salary number reported by the Post. "I'm not sure where $100MM came from," Monfort told Wilmer Reina at the Venezuelan paper La Verdad (link in Spanish). "It's true that our organization has talked with his agent about an agreement of seven years, but not with those numbers." - Nick Collias

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/1...-gonzalez.html
evil solrac v3.0
(12-11-2010, 01:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by Windu

7 is this offseason's favorite number. The Rockies have offered Carlos Gonzalez a 7 year deal.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/1...-gonzalez.html

*sigh* every time I see that name I think it's my altered clone who took my name and is doing what I've always wanted...... :(
ToxicAdam
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(12-11-2010, 02:01 AM)
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Top 5 HBP for the last decade?


Jason Kendall 165
Jason Giambi 144
David Eckstein 143
Craig Biggio 132
Arod 128
Windu
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(12-11-2010, 02:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dayton Moore

"We feel really, really good about what we did to improve our outfield situation," general manager Dayton Moore said Friday. "Melky Cabrera broke into the major leagues at 21. I think he played 101 games in center field in 2009 and if memory serves me right, he was on the field playing center field when the Yankees won the championship in 2009."

Originally Posted by Dayton Moore

"We targeted Jeff and Melky months ago as players we felt were not even at the prime of their careers yet, haven't peaked," Moore said. "There's upside there. Guys who were going to play with energy, guys who were going to be enthusiastic."

They can play everyday! Perfect fit for the organization!
Lambtron
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(12-11-2010, 02:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sharp

All GMs (except maybe Jim Hendry) use a ton of SABR-oriented stuff at this point. They're not stupid. Their statements to the public have nothing to do with the comparisons they're doing behind the scenes. They also have access to stats and data that we don't (particularly HitFX stuff).

Twins assistant GM Rob Antony says they do not use advanced metrics. This is probably why they felt JJ Hardy was an expendible piece and that Kubel is an adequate defender.
mYm|17|
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(12-11-2010, 02:36 AM)
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so scott downs signed with the angels
Jon
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(12-11-2010, 02:41 AM)
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The guy behind the fake Heyman account is one of the guys from The Fightins. :lol I hope he doesn't get in trouble.
Corran Horn
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(12-11-2010, 04:52 AM)
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God damn my wallet...I ...must....have.
RBH
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(12-11-2010, 05:04 AM)
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Dayton Moore is not too bright, is he?
Jon
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(12-11-2010, 05:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Corran Horn

God damn my wallet...I ...must....have.

I got the one for the Phillies season--it's really nice. You definitely should get it.
Doytch
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(12-11-2010, 05:21 AM)
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Niiiice, here's hoping the LAA don't sign Beltre or Lee to drop the comp pick to the 2nd round.
Y2Kev
The Last Guardian is Dead. Sorry.
(12-11-2010, 05:22 AM)
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I don't want the angels to sign anyone else really. I want them to continue to be lulzy
yankeehater
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(12-11-2010, 05:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jon

I got the one for the Phillies season--it's really nice. You definitely should get it.


I also got the Phils WS DVD's, really good.
Doytch
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(12-11-2010, 05:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by yankeehater

I also got the Phils WS DVD's, really good.

Are all the mlb videos narrated by that tool who does the TWiB voice overs? Dude sounds just awful, but I can't place exactly what it is.
vas_a_morir
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(12-11-2010, 05:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by yankeehater

I also got the Phils WS DVD's, really good.

I'll preorder my Reds WS DVD for next year.
eznark
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(12-11-2010, 05:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by evil solrac v3.0

*sigh* every time I see that name I think it's my altered clone who took my name and is doing what I've always wanted...... :(

I always have a very brief flash of happiness, thinking somehow Melvin shipped off Carlos Gomez.
bigtroyjon
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(12-11-2010, 06:00 AM)

Originally Posted by Doytch

Niiiice, here's hoping the LAA don't sign Beltre or Lee to drop the comp pick to the 2nd round.

It will be a 2nd round comp pick at best since the Angels first round pick is protected.
mYm|17|
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(12-11-2010, 06:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by bigtroyjon

It will be a 2nd round comp pick at best since the Angels first round pick is protected.

yup, so I am kinda glad the Angels didn't get CC
Jon
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(12-11-2010, 06:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Doytch

Are all the mlb videos narrated by that tool who does the TWiB voice overs? Dude sounds just awful, but I can't place exactly what it is.

No, each year is different. The Phillies had Terrance Howard, but the Yankees had Forrest Whitaker or something.

The set that Corran is talking about has all the real audio from all the games, with your choice of broadcast or radio.
Last edited by Jon; 12-11-2010 at 06:14 AM.
Doytch
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(12-11-2010, 06:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by bigtroyjon

It will be a 2nd round comp pick at best since the Angels first round pick is protected.

Aw goddamn you're right. I just assumed the Angels weren't that awful last year, but they were below .500. Below the A's for christ's sake.
Mr. Enigma
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(12-11-2010, 06:34 AM)
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ESPN Dallas/Fort Worth is reporting the Rangers have increased their offer in response to the Yankees increase.

Both Heyman and Rosenthal say the Nationals are still in the Lee sweepstakes as well.
Doytch
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(12-11-2010, 06:40 AM)
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I have a feeling the Nats have just trolling everyone, and they just got called on it by Jayson Werth.
Mr. Enigma
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(12-11-2010, 06:46 AM)
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Breakdown on the Crawford contract with Boston:

-- $6 million signing bonus
-- 2011: $14 million
-- 2012: $19.5 million
-- 2013: $20 million
-- 2014: $20.25 million
-- 2015: $20.5 million
-- 2016: $20.75 million
-- 2017: $21 million
-- No known options or award/performance incentives

Does anyone really think Crawford is going to be worth $21 million in 2017 when he's 36 years old?
Bread
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(12-11-2010, 06:51 AM)
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why did they backload the contract wtf are they thinking
Windu
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(12-11-2010, 06:52 AM)
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baseball contracts are almost always backloaded.
Lazy vs Crazy
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(12-11-2010, 07:05 AM)
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It isn't really backloaded. 20 mil this year, up to 21 in the last year. Barely any different.
Sharp
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(12-11-2010, 07:16 AM)

Originally Posted by Doytch

I have a feeling the Nats have just trolling everyone, and they just got called on it by Jayson Werth.

Nah, that Nat$ money is real. I doubt the Lerners / Rizzo are crazy enough to guarantee Lee the kind of money he would need to come to DC though.
ToxicAdam
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(12-11-2010, 12:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by AnEternalEnigma

-- 2017: $21 million
-- No known options or award/performance incentives

Does anyone really think Crawford is going to be worth $21 million in 2017 when he's 36 years old?


You can say that about all the 7-8 year deals that are being handed out. Even Sabathia and Teixeria.

That's why the inequality in baseball finances sucks so bad. You have a handful of teams that can just 'give away' 20-40 million dollars and not really give a shit.
Doytch
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(12-11-2010, 03:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lazy vs Crazy

It isn't really backloaded. 20 mil this year, up to 21 in the last year. Barely any different.

$20mil in 2010 is worth more than $21mil in 2017.
Joe Shlabotnik
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(12-11-2010, 03:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Doytch

$20mil in 2010 is worth more than $21mil in 2017.

Which is why they're usually backloaded. Of course the question isn't whether Crawford will be worth $15 or $16 million in 2010 dollars at the end of his contract, it's whether he'll be worth, like, $5 million. I'm sure Crawford can live with his contract "depreciating" by the rate of inflation over the next seven years.
Sanjuro
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(12-11-2010, 04:07 PM)
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I had a weird dream that Roger Clemens came back to the Sox with a seven year deal. Of all the dramatic things.
h3ro
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(12-11-2010, 04:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sanjuro Tsubaki

I had a weird dream that Roger Clemens came back to the Sox with a seven year deal. Of all the dramatic things.

oh my goodness gracious
CygnusXS
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(12-11-2010, 04:23 PM)
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Longoria Open to Contract Extension

Hopefully he gets a little more this time.

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