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gofreak · Mar 9, 2012

If a mod's around, a better title might be: MCV rumour: Next Xbox will not have a disc drive, 'card storage' mooted, 2013 release

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/exclusive-no-disc-drive-for-next-xbox/092534

MCV has learnt that Microsoft has been telling partners that the Next Xbox will NOT include a disc drive.

The briefings have been issued under what MCV’s source describes as “the strictest NDA” they have ever encountered.

Although the console will not include a disc drive, it will offer compatibility with some sort of interchangeable solid-state card storage, although it is not known whether this will be proprietary or a more standard format such as SD.

Furthermore, a 2013 launch date for the hardware has been confirmed.

Log4Girlz · Mar 9, 2012

Instant failure if true.

Toki767 · Mar 9, 2012

Hmm...if they don't use a disc drive, could they conceivably use flash memory for games?

gofreak · Mar 9, 2012

Let's see if any others can corroborate...huge news if true. edit - at least, if it implies a digital only approach. If it will use a card format for physical distribution it's less of a biggie.

Pie and Beans · Mar 9, 2012

Chance for Sony to reassert their control by siding with the gamer then. Next gen game sizes are going to far outscale today's broadband I feel. 50gb downloads+ when some services are capped? How will this even work?

HyperionX · Mar 9, 2012

Is my crazy SD card theory coming true? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=453127

pieatorium · Mar 9, 2012

I can understand using SD cards instead of discs for the games but not even having a dvd drive for movies?

Ignis Fatuus · Mar 9, 2012

No.

No, No, No.

NO.

abstract alien · Mar 9, 2012

Didn't this rumor go around about the PS4 as well. I would be fine with it, but I'm sure most won't. I don't think it would do too hot at retail either. Hell, why would any retailer even use up the shelf space to carry a product they would see little returns off of?

jonno394 · Mar 9, 2012

Hmmm, how much storgae does a blu-ray this gen offer? how much storage will a next gen game require?

If they are offering a game card like the Vita wouldn't this mean teh need SD/Proprietary Cards of over 32GB for every game......

DaSorcerer7 · Mar 9, 2012

I guess this supports the other rumour about them being anti-used game and stuff.

Hyuga · Mar 9, 2012

Log4Girlz said:
Instant failure if true.

A home console without physical media (DD only) -> I will never buy it!
Handheld? Ok! (imo)
Home console -> never ever!

(btw. there are a lot of states and cities without broadband internet / high speed internet! So lol if true)

Branduil · Mar 9, 2012

Was it the next Xbox that was also rumored to not allow used/borrowed games?

pieatorium · Mar 9, 2012

Pie and Beans said:
Chance for Sony to reassert their control by siding with the gamer then. Next gen game sizes are going to far outscale today's broadband I feel. 50gb downloads+ when some services are capped? How will this even work?

Read the OP where it talks about SD cards

aaaaa0 · Mar 9, 2012

The briefings have been issued under what MCVs source describes as the strictest NDA they have ever encountered.

Clearly, still not strict enough.

ZombiePlatypus · Mar 9, 2012

I know that Sony has mentioned as well that the future is all about digital downloads and what not, but I really prefer physical copies. There's just something about having a physical collection that digital downloads can never capture. No matter how much more space-efficient they might be.

Ozzykamikaze · Mar 9, 2012

This seems extremely unlikely to me. I don't think it's a huge selling point like it used to be, but it wouldn't be able to play any disc-based movies, let alone Blu-Ray Movies.

Log4Girlz · Mar 9, 2012

abstract alien said:
Didn't this rumor go around about the PS4 as well. I would be fine with it, but I'm sure most won't. I don't think it would do too hot at retail either. Hell, why would any retailer even use up the shelf space to carry a product they would see little returns off of?

Could have sworn this rumor has been discussed before for Durango.

bigtroyjon · Mar 9, 2012

Would love it if true although I'm guessing most here would not.

DD all the way!

Sadist · Mar 9, 2012

The future is now

V_Ben · Mar 9, 2012

Retail would have a fit, although there is the possibility of flash cards.

TheAtomicPile · Mar 9, 2012

Then the next Xbox will also not have me as a customer.

Game-Biz · Mar 9, 2012

Maybe it plays BlueRay discs like records? Xbox/Futuristic record player.

Awesome.

cw_sasuke · Mar 9, 2012

There will probably a separate SKU with a drive.

frostbyte · Mar 9, 2012

I don't believe it. We're not ready for the full DD approach yet. Not for at least another gen.

shinra-bansho · Mar 9, 2012

If it's DD-only it would fit with the other rumor about stopping used game sales.

gofreak · Mar 9, 2012

MCV seems to be spinning it as a blow to retail, at least some move away from physical distribution.

But the card storage bit? Maybe the games will go to retail on those? The article sort of doesn't elaborate there, so I wonder if the implication about digital-only is jumping the gun a bit.

Pie and Beans · Mar 9, 2012

pieatorium said:
Read the OP where it talks about SD cards

Thought that was for additional storage, not what games come on? 64gb SD cards are kind of fucking expensive still, and the only comparison to a blu-ray in size?

herzogzwei1989 · Mar 9, 2012

abstract alien said:
Didn't this rumor go around about the PS4 as well

Yes. I didn't believe it then nor now, neither for the PS4 or the Xbox3.

These rumors are bullshit. The state of broadband/wideband in the Unites States will not support such an option. At least not by 2013/2014.

Sapphire Dreams · Mar 9, 2012

There will be an age where this will be the standard, but that is age is not today, not yet.

pieatorium · Mar 9, 2012

The OP has like 3 lines is it really that fucking hard to read it?

SparkTR · Mar 9, 2012

cw_sasuke said:
There will probably a separate SKU with a drive.

Exactly what I was thinking, maybe this is like an Arcade edition primarily for their downloadable selection.

Cipherr · Mar 9, 2012

Branduil said:
Was it the next Xbox that was also rumored to not allow used/borrowed games?

Thats what nearly convinces me here. This no disc drive rumor would really gel well with the whole "no borrowed/used games" rumors.

pieatorium said:
Read the OP where it talks about SD cards

SD cards are pretty cheap no doubt. And itll be even more cheap if they used them as a format since they would have bulk purchases, but SD media is still not as cheap as discs are AFAIK. Game costs would be higher than they needed to be. If this isnt 1 SKU of many, it would be a mistake IMO. SD slot or no sd slot.

evolution · Mar 9, 2012

I'm already imagining how much those memory cards would cost. They can't possibly be for retail games.

Kusagari · Mar 9, 2012

Hey look another dumbass 720 rumor that obviously isn't true.

gofreak · Mar 9, 2012

If I could ask a mod to change the title to:

MCV rumour: Next Xbox will not have a disc drive, 'card storage' mooted, 2013 release

Thanks...

Danielsan · Mar 9, 2012

Unless they're going to take the proprietary memory card approach I don't see this happening. You still need physical media. Give it another 5 years before going fully DD becomes a viable option.

radioheadrule83 · Mar 9, 2012

OnLive style remote virtualization?

Bold risk whatever they're doing

j0hnny_385 · Mar 9, 2012

Kusagari said:
Hey look another dumbass 720 rumor that obviously isn't true.

^ this.

DECK'ARD · Mar 9, 2012

Branduil said:
Was it the next Xbox that was also rumored to not allow used/borrowed games?

That was my first thought as well.

Fits totally with that if it was download only.

Yamibito · Mar 9, 2012

Well on the upside, at least we can't scratch our Xbox discs anymore if this is the case.

Rikyfree · Mar 9, 2012

Welp, no xbox for me then. I don't have the DL speeds to make this viable over going down tto the local shop and buying it there

Sethos · Mar 9, 2012

I will put my life on the line and say there will be an optical drive in the next Xbox. Thinking there won't be is just stupid, the market isn't prepared for digital only, neither is the infrastructure around the world.

However, a cheap model without one among other cutbacks might be plausible

Kafel · Mar 9, 2012

Discs or cards, it's the same.

mocoworm · Mar 9, 2012

This was my reply to MCV's tweet:

@BenParfitt whatever ! are you sure you check your sources ? NG games will be too big for SD cards and too big for dload caps. #ridiculous

... and I stand by it. There is NO way they will go digital only.

TheOddOne · Mar 9, 2012

SparkTR said:
Exactly what I was thinking, maybe this is like an Arcade edition primarily for their downloadable selection.

This would make a ton of sense. We're still getting different type of rumours, because till now Bluray had been confirmed to be in there.

Kyoufu · Mar 9, 2012

I'll buy a DD only console.

Not sure about cards though. Hmm.

mr_toa · Mar 9, 2012

Although the console will not include a disc drive, it will offer compatibility with some sort of interchangeable solid-state card storage, although it is not known whether this will be proprietary or a more standard format such as SD.

I'm thinking game cards based on the above details. Launching in 2013 DD-only would be instant death for the platform.

surly · Mar 9, 2012

Log4Girlz said:
Instant failure if true.

Why is "interchangeable solid state media" an instant failure compared to using discs? Cos it won't play DVDs and Blu-Rays?

Monty Mole · Mar 9, 2012

the strictest NDA

Irony.

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