Nope. The NSMB games have been getting a pass for too long and the music just tells the entire story of the way Nintendo is handling the Mario franchise.
Jeff was totally right.
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Nope. The NSMB games have been getting a pass for too long and the music just tells the entire story of the way Nintendo is handling the Mario franchise.
Jeff was totally right.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
In a sense, Jeff was right. Lots about the presentation is routine.
Although what Jeff couldn't have known, is that NSMBU's levels are some of the better ones in decades....
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Disappoint americans.
You're passing on Wii U because of NSMB music?
Am I supposed to play in silence? There's a reason silent films aren't released anymore. Nsmb music is flat out mockery at this point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_DxJcI-gcI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I literally remember where I was standing when 00:35 kicked in. I almost fainted.
Most games have shitty/boring ambient music these days. I don't think this is an excuse for a series like Mario to jump on the bandwagon, but just put on a podcast or something while you play instead of listening to the music.
Some of the music is pretty good. Some is mediocre, but by no means ear-bleeding calamitous disaster seventh-seal breaking end of the world travesty awful that many make it out to be.
It's disappointing that they didn't put in any effort, but it is hardly to the games detriment.
It's disappointing that they didn't put in any effort, but it is hardly to the games detriment.
Silver_DNA
Member
Bu-... the enemies dance to the BAW BAWs.
I think it's cute...
SM3DLand's soundtrack is so good.
Darko
Member
Or let you use the wiiu pro controller......
Or online play...
That's what actually gets me. Nintendo can't differentiate between taking pleasure in simple activities and mental enfeeblement. Not that you or anyone who likes it is an idiot. I just get the feeling Nintendo assumes that you are.
SomeOneInaHat
Member
It's down right adorable, if only they'd dance to a better tune.
Freezie KO
Banned
Not the franchise as a whole, but the 2D platformers, yes.
I'm not bothered by the music, but I'm extremely bored by the lack of new mechanics in these games. I own a Wii U, and I didn't even get Mario U. And I would consider myself a huge fan of the Mario franchise and of platformers.
PetriP-TNT
Member
I think the NSMB composer is just bitter that all he has is this crappy Casio keyboard from the late 80's while Galaxy composers have this awesome orchestra MIDI-set
c:"I'M CAN'T COMPOSE WITH THIS!"
Nintendo: "Oh yes you can"
*closes the cage*
c: *does the worst possible result*
c:"I'M CAN'T COMPOSE WITH THIS!"
Nintendo: "Oh yes you can"
*closes the cage*
c: *does the worst possible result*
They used an actual chamber orchestra for the Galaxy games.
Thank you based orchestrationally-competent Mahito Yokota for composing and orchestrating for those games.
The console has more than just NSMBU, that's what I'm saying.
People are making a way bigger deal out of this than they should be.
The compositions themselves are really good, and while I may not be a fan of the bah-bah, it's like people are competing with each other at who can complain louder about it.
This, for example, is ridiculous.
Yes, because the games themselves are actually good, and people actually seem to care about what really matters: fun gameplay and getting a good value for their money (NSMB Wii is still our most played local multiplayer title).
The compositions themselves are really good, and while I may not be a fan of the bah-bah, it's like people are competing with each other at who can complain louder about it.
This, for example, is ridiculous.
Yes, because the games themselves are actually good, and people actually seem to care about what really matters: fun gameplay and getting a good value for their money (NSMB Wii is still our most played local multiplayer title).
SomeOneInaHat
Member
That's the thing, these are all great compositions, from games that happened 20 years ago.
It's comparable to having a cover band butcher your favorite bands song, which is strange in this situation because isn't the same composer, of the original, the composer for these new pieces?
Bonus Material:
KK's Song
KK Slider Songs
PetriP-TNT
Member
Damn, I couldn't remember if it was awesome MIDI or a real orchestra and choose wrong. Awesome soundtrack anyway.
Stop lumping your opinions on other people. I for one am not sick of the BAHs. In fact I love 'em. So BAH BAH BAH to you too!
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I was just thinking about that. It ruins the rules and flow of Mario to stop the movement of characters occasionally. I guess you could argue that you could listen to the music and predict the dance-pauses with your knowledge of when the BAHs were playing... but the music is shitty!!
Well you are literally the first person I've heard in 7 years defend the BAHs... so I hope, for your sake, you're not alone
It breaks the 4th wall, to me. Are you telling me this is music Bowser is playing over level-covering speakers? Why the fuck are aware of the music?!
SomeOneInaHat
Member
Do you not believe that the simplified electronic acoustic sound of the compositions behind the BAH are of a lower standard when compared to past performances?
Most convoluted sentence I've ever typed
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
The amount of people who don't care about it vastly outnumber the people who hate it I would imagine.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I think if it was exceptional music... then ok.... But it isn't.
It is quite possible to enjoy the game while still criticizing one of its most horrible aspects.
See also: NSMBW.
SomeOneInaHat
Member
I find "Not caring" as a mutual connection to"hate". If in the purpose of composing an OST that is meant to be enjoyed as entertaining and or stimulating, having your audience receive your work as uninspiring, in away that it means nothing to them, the point of the music falls flat on its face in purpose. It might as well have not been based off KK beats and replaced with the top 50 list on iTunes.
Honey Bunny
Member
Favourited so hard. Currently playing on repeat.
I'm still a bit puzzled by the complaints, given that I've finished the first world and the music is, generally, new music.
I've heard complaint after complaint about recycled music, but the majority of the music -is- new. Granted, it appears to be 3-4 variations on the same new tune, but I was reading posts where folks literally said all the music was pulled from the prior games.
Does the reuse get worse later than "underground and castle themes" being used?
I've heard complaint after complaint about recycled music, but the majority of the music -is- new. Granted, it appears to be 3-4 variations on the same new tune, but I was reading posts where folks literally said all the music was pulled from the prior games.
Does the reuse get worse later than "underground and castle themes" being used?
Alcoholikaust
Member
Completely agree, so glad I have passed on the 12 systems I have seen in the wild.
Professor Beef
Banned
Well you are literally the first person I've heard in 7 years defend the BAHs... so I hope, for your sake, you're not alone
He isn't. The music is extremely catchy. When I saw the baby Yoshis sing with it in World 2, I thought it was pretty cool.
So far I've hear them reuse:
-the main athletic theme
-the underworld theme
-desert theme
-main castle theme
-ghost house theme
That's a LOT of reused tracks, essay.
qft... thanks for posting that link!
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The Yoshis are so cute, and thus, they are biasing you to think the music is good.
Professor Beef
Banned
I only found out about the Yoshis earlier this week. I've always thought the BAH-BAHs were catchy. I do hate how some of the enemies dance with the music and then move slightly enough to harm you. Don't see a reason why that's in.
Nocturnowl
Member
This is it, we've reached the apex of whining regarding the music in this franchise, nothing can surpass this short of a BAH induced suicide or someone developing a BAH complex that causes the individual to jive uncontrollably whenever they here a unique sound byte in their everyday life.
The BAHs haven't bothered me at all since DS and I like the music itself, I just hate the reuse.
Well you are literally the first person I've heard in 7 years defend the BAHs... so I hope, for your sake, you're not alone
The BAHs haven't bothered me at all since DS and I like the music itself, I just hate the reuse.
The irony in all this is that for all the recycling music Nintendo's done, they've neglected to reuse one of the few actual GOOD tracks in the series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrAa-_SlRCY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrAa-_SlRCY
Teletraan1
Banned
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HAL_Laboratory
Member
Actually, Jeff was wrong. NSMB is a brand in and of itself. It doesn't have the sweeping, orchestral style of SMG or the musical feeling of other Mario games because, well, it's not those games. It's not supposed to be those games and it's not trying to be those games. It's no more the same universe as Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass are the same universe. Totally separate identities. And fittingly so -- no successful company puts all their eggs in one basket; instead they produce a variety of products and derivitive branches of those products.
So, when you complain about how horrible and lazy the music is, keep in mind NSMB is meant to target a "NEW" generation of Mario fans and not necessarily the same fans from previous tellings who are now in their 20s/30s, going bald and hating life.
SomeOneInaHat
Member
That's for speedruns.
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